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Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

Vector Victor

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Well, here's a question:

Where on the character banner do you want Banjo and Kazooie? Are they doing any unique pose? And are they interacting with one of the other characters?

Well, that was a lie. It was multiple questions.
 

ZoroCarlos

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Character Packs #2 and #3 getting both shown at E3: Very likely

Character Packs #2 and #3 BOTH becoming playable right after presentation: I have no idea.
 

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If Banjo is actually in, what songs do you guys want to see make the cut? I’d love to see:

  • Main Theme
  • Spiral Mountain
  • Mumbo’s Mountain
  • Treasure Trove Cove
  • Freezeezy Peaks
  • Click Clock Wood
  • Final Battle
  • Witchy World
  • Terrydactyland
  • Hailfire Peaks
  • Banjo Land
  • Windy (Conker’s Bad Fur Day)
  • Battletoads Theme
  • Killer Instinct Theme
The additional Rare songs might be a bit weird, but Rare’s library has so much good music that it’d be a shame not to give a taste of what they have to offer beyond Banjo. Plus, I’d kill to hear the KI theme in Smash.
Rusty Bucket Bay and/or Grunty industries as well.
Probably my two favorite tracks of both N64 games.
 
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When it comes to their reveal trailer, I think it's gonna be really simple and reminiscent. I think we'll have a pan over a lush mountain area before the camera settles on a small cascade pool. Banjo and Kazooie will then knock in the screen, perform the iconic intro (only the beginning) before his splash screen says "Banjo and Kazooie Are Finally Here!" Then the gameplay trailer, finishing off with "Available Now".
 

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Character Packs #2 and #3 getting both shown at E3: Very likely

Character Packs #2 and #3 BOTH becoming playable right after presentation: I have no idea.

They announced and dropped Roy, Lucas and Ryu all during the E3 period, then it was another ~5 or so months until Cloud, then 2 more months for Corrin and Bayo.


If i had to guess, Erdrick and Banjo next week, fully playable. DLC 4 sometime in the fall, and DLC 5 sometime in the winter. I also have this weird feeling that Sakurai will through in a 6th fighter in as a surprise. Something tells me he may not just end it with a remaining fighter without shocking us a bit. Just a feeling i have.
 

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So i guess i am late but vergeben is on the banjo bandwagon too now huh? I have been neutral of him(he sometimes comes off as pompous) but i think its safe to say we know for sure banjo is in.

While that is cool... kinda wish this would have been a complete surprise. Imagine the hype seeing that reveal blind. But even if these leaks didnt happen, all the other banjo merch coming out has spoiled it a bit, or at least got people expecting something.

As for who will be playable... it depends i think one the order of the reveals. Its possible edrick(though still prefer slime) could be shown at the end of the smash tourny, then banjo at microsoft. That would have me expect erdrick first right after nintendo direct.

However, if they do the reveal trailer for banjo during microsoft, show gameplay at the start of the nintendo direct, and end with the erdrick reveal trailer, then banjo will be released right after.
 

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I’m now interested in what Vergs acquaintances have to say, although I’ve been out of the leak scene for a bit so I could’ve missed something.

Both Xenother and Hitagi were both adamant Steve backers and communicated with him a lot, and both were absolutely certain Banjo was not in. I’ve heard Xenother may be done with leaks, but I’d like know Hitagis thoughts at least. Or if they have any updates. Or did Hitagi go M.I.A after joker got revealed?
Steve could have been leak bait and/or Mii costume.
 
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You know, in all my years of thinking about Banjo's chances from Smash 4 to Ultimate speculation, I feel I would have been convinced to predict Banjo, had I had any personal love for the series. I tried getting into it when I played it on the N64 at a young and did it again a few years later, but I could never enjoy it much. I could get its appeal from a tone and atmosphere standpoint, but those impressions back then have made me kind of neutral towards the character, sorta like with Ridley.

I think that has been the biggest wall for predicting Banjo for me.
 

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They announced and dropped Roy, Lucas and Ryu all during the E3 period, then it was another ~5 or so months until Cloud, then 2 more months for Corrin and Bayo.


If i had to guess, Erdrick and Banjo next week, fully playable. DLC 4 sometime in the fall, and DLC 5 sometime in the winter. I also have this weird feeling that Sakurai will through in a 6th fighter in as a surprise. Something tells me he may not just end it with a remaining fighter without shocking us a bit. Just a feeling i have.
The wait back then wasn't noticeable because we didn't know how many DLC there was going to be. After Ryu/Roy/Lucas, Smash went on radio silence. The only thing we knew was the ballot character, and even that wasn't certain if it was DLC or a future Smash game addition.

So its amusing seeing people chomping at the bit for Smash news even after Plant and Joker when people would bring up how we survived 5 months until Cloud. Its just that we didn't know how much Smash 4 would get.


As for other non FP characters, I look at the smash site and get Box Theory vibes again. It specifically has 4 empty placeholder spots under Joker. While they can easily add more, they could have also just left it without the placeholders. So odds are, like box theory, what we see is what we get.
 

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This has truly been the Ultimate wait for E3, at least for us in here. It felt like up until last night every other leak Banjo was ‘deconfirmed’ again, only to be back on the table the next hour. It seems like things have finally turned around! Only a couple days left now and odds look great for our Rare duo.
 

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This has truly been the Ultimate wait for E3, at least for us in here. It felt like up until last night every other leak Banjo was ‘deconfirmed’ again, only to be back on the table the next hour. It seems like things have finally turned around! Only a couple days left now and odds look great for our Rare duo.

This is the first time Banjo has been part of Insider leaks. So far, with Smash, most insider leaks have been real.

- "Everyone is here"
- Daisy + Ridley
- Simon
- Isabelle, Ken and Incineroar

All of these were properly leaked by Vergeben last year and were right. Now he's also claiming Banjo along with Erdrick as a result of Tansuit and Shinobi. Say what you want about his non-smash scoops, but he's been entitely right, save for a vague "Minecraft representation" comment that has yet to be proven wrong or right yet.

Tansuit personally leaked Cloud during smash 4, so I believe him when he says Erdrick is in. Shinobi used the same "smashing good time" gesture right before Ultimate was teased, and hes using it again for Banjo.

Its certainly looking great for both of these characters. Hopefully DLC 4 and 5 will retain the hype lol
 
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So i guess i am late but vergeben is on the banjo bandwagon too now huh? I have been neutral of him(he sometimes comes off as pompous) but i think its safe to say we know for sure banjo is in.

While that is cool... kinda wish this would have been a complete surprise. Imagine the hype seeing that reveal blind. But even if these leaks didnt happen, all the other banjo merch coming out has spoiled it a bit, or at least got people expecting something.

As for who will be playable... it depends i think one the order of the reveals. Its possible edrick(though still prefer slime) could be shown at the end of the smash tourny, then banjo at microsoft. That would have me expect erdrick first right after nintendo direct.

However, if they do the reveal trailer for banjo during microsoft, show gameplay at the start of the nintendo direct, and end with the erdrick reveal trailer, then banjo will be released right after.
If Banjo Kazooie and Erdrick are announced at E3 then I truly hope that Banjo Kazooie are released before Erdrick considering that Banjo Kazooie is just as popular in Japan as they are in the United States and Europe. Erdrick has an overwhelming Japanese audience but hasn't captivated the overseas audience yet.
 

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If Banjo Kazooie and Erdrick are announced at E3 then I truly hope that Banjo Kazooie are released before Erdrick considering that Banjo Kazooie is just as popular in Japan as they are in the United States and Europe. Erdrick has an overwhelming Japanese audience but hasn't captivated the overseas audience yet.
Business wise banjo right after direct makes sense due to world wide appeal, and it is a western conference.
 
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If Banjo Kazooie and Erdrick are announced at E3 then I truly hope that Banjo Kazooie are released before Erdrick considering that Banjo Kazooie is just as popular in Japan as they are in the United States and Europe. Erdrick has an overwhelming Japanese audience but hasn't captivated the overseas audience yet.
I’m fine with whoever releases first, tbh.

I am cool with both of them and I would be fine with whoever they choose to release first.
 

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If Banjo Kazooie and Erdrick are announced at E3 then I truly hope that Banjo Kazooie are released before Erdrick considering that Banjo Kazooie is just as popular in Japan as they are in the United States and Europe. Erdrick has an overwhelming Japanese audience but hasn't captivated the overseas audience yet.
They can just drop both at the same time. They did it with Roy, Ryu and Lucas for Smash 4. Tbh thats what i find most likely at this point. Nintendo likes dropping DLC on people almost immediately instead of giving release dates. They did this BoTW and have done it for smash before.
 

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This is the first time Banjo has been part of Insider leaks. So far, with Smash, most insider leaks have been real.

- "Everyone is here"
- Daisy + Ridley
- Simon
- Isabelle, Ken and Incineroar

All of these were properly leaked by Vergeben last year.

Tansuit personally leaked Cloud during smash 4, so I believe him when he says Erdrick is in. Shinobi used the same "smashing good time" gesture right before Ultimate was teased, and hes using it again for Banjo.

Its certainly looking great for both of these characters. Hopefully DLC 4 and 5 will retain the hype lol
If Erdrick and Banjo Kazooie come to E3, that gives the 4chan leak that also said Leon Kennedy and Lloyd Irving would be joining the fighters pass more credibility. Not that it's a bad thing. I wish I could find that leak though... :^(

Edit: Here is the link if you wish to view it but I'll screen cap it below: https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/463256834/

 
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Man I sure can't wait to play Banjo and smash Snake in the cranium with Kazooie while Cloud has his shield broken on the other side of the stage and Ridley about to homerun-bat him in Mementos with Rivers in the Desert playing in the background...

This is how insane Smash has gotten...
 

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If Erdrick and Banjo Kazooie come to E3, that gives the 4chan leak that also said Leon Kennedy and Lloyd Irving would be joining the fighters pass more credibility. Not that it's a bad thing. I wish I could find that leak though... :^(

Edit: here it is Link if you wish to view it but I'll screen cap it below: https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/463256834/

This?


https://smashboards.com/attachments/20190530_114059-jpg.225136/


If Erdrick and Banjo are released as 2 and 3, i will certainly keep this rumor in mind.


Edit: you ninjad meXDD
 
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How do you guys think how he would play in Smash? Give me your ideas please!
Glad you asked, friend-o! I came up with this comprehensive guide to how I personally think and hope Banjo & Kazooie would play in Smash, and what they would bring to the table! Artwork also done by yours truly in hype for last year's Smash Ultimate debut!

 
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If Erdrick and Banjo Kazooie come to E3, that gives the 4chan leak that also said Leon Kennedy and Lloyd Irving would be joining the fighters pass more credibility. Not that it's a bad thing. I wish I could find that leak though... :^(

Edit: here it is Link if you wish to view it but I'll screen cap it below: https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/463256834/

I feel like that post lost some credibility by saying that Nintendo would drop a version 3.0.2 update on May 30th, which didn't happen. There was an update on that day, but it was a balance patch as opposed to bug fixes.

As well, a stopped clock is right twice a day - Erdrick is easily the most expected reveal for this E3, and if we're going to get a Microsoft character in Smash, E3 makes the most sense for when to reveal that. I'm sure there are plenty of other supposed leaks out there that have Steve from Minecraft in place of Banjo-Kazooie for a second E3 reveal, or other leaks that have Erdrick and Banjo as being revealed at E3.
 

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How do you guys think how he would play in Smash? Give me your ideas please!
Not really creative in any sense of the word myself, but I personally think Sakurai wont make another Duck Hunt type duo, meaning Kazooie is only used for certain attacks and thats it. I feel like they will be treated more as equals, and will play similar to their switch mechanic.

So basically kind of like Pokemon Trainer, in that Down-B will let Kazooie come out of the backpack and alter nearly all of the duo's moves. Banjo himself will be more of a powerhouse like DK if I had to assume, but perhaps he's slow, really slippery, etc. Kazooie is weaker, but is fast, has higher jumps, better Up-B, etc. You would use them as you would for their platforming advantages in their games.

The thing thats important is that BOTH should be using each other in the other's respective moveset. This is how I personally imagine Banjo and Kazooie working in smash. A 2-fold character with a down B in the vein of Melee Zelda/Shiek or Pokemon Trainer but the characters still use each other in their movesets.
 

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I feel like that post lost some credibility by saying that Nintendo would drop a version 3.0.2 update on May 30th, which didn't happen. There was an update on that day, but it was a balance patch as opposed to bug fixes.

As well, a stopped clock is right twice a day - Erdrick is easily the most expected reveal for this E3, and if we're going to get a Microsoft character in Smash, E3 makes the most sense for when to reveal that. I'm sure there are plenty of other supposed leaks out there that have Steve from Minecraft in place of Banjo-Kazooie for a second E3 reveal, or other leaks that have Erdrick and Banjo as being revealed at E3.
Yeah, personally, I'll put just a little more stock in this one in the event both characters are not only announced at E3, but also immediately playable thereafter. That strikes me as very unlikely.
 

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I've been predicting for a while that we'll be getting a double reveal at E3. Seems like the cards have fallen in Erdrick and Banjo's favor no matter what any fake 4Chan leaks say.

Though what bothered me was it had to take Verge jumping on the bandwagon for more people to be convinced, instead of a credible insider like Shinobi while everyone is expecting Erdrick because Tansut says so. Seems like a bit of a double standard and biases getting in the way.
 

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I've been predicting for a while that we'll be getting a double reveal at E3. Seems like the cards have fallen in Erdrick and Banjo's favor no matter what any fake 4Chan leaks say.

Though what bothered me was it had to take Verge jumping on the bandwagon for more people to be convinced, instead of a credible insider like Shinobi while everyone is expecting Erdrick because Tansut says so. Seems like a bit of a double standard and biases getting in the way.
I like the bear as well as Steve so I don't really care who'll be. I like both, and if I'm gettin' one of them I'm happy. Plus, I may end up mainning Banjo just as well as with Joker.
 

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ok so now verge is on the banjo train ? 99% ? nice to see he gave himself 1% wiggle room lol come on verge this is not a good look.

Man if banjo gets in I am going to have a framed picture of Phil Spenser next to the family pictures, with the Iconic banjo for smash tweet that got everybody on board with voting for banjo

Also I was in gamestop the other week & they had a banjo stubbins plush (I already bought one) & some chick walked up to it (guess she heard my comment about it to my aunt & cuz) & she immediately bought it bought it, puts a smile on my face to see support for banjo (now if only they would make more of those totaku figures ! my gamestops only ever got 2 in EVER ! out of all the gamestops)
 
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How do you guys think how he would play in Smash? Give me your ideas please!
This is the one I had since the 2015 Fighter ballot.

Super Smash Bros Ultimate Newcomer

Character: Banjo & Kazooie

Franchise: Banjo-Kazooie

Games: Diddy Kong Racing (1997)
Banjo-Kazooie (1998) Banjo-Tooie (2000)

Series Logo/Icon: Jiggy/Jigsaw

Movement:

(Left/Right) just like in their games Banjo can slowly creep, walk or run/dash with the same animations depending on the input of the control stick.

Jump:

Y/X: Same animations from like the game Banjo jumps.

YY/XX: Banjo double jumps and Kazooie pops out and flaps wings, Hold same button on the 2nd jump and Kazooie will help you slowly descend to the ground.

Basic Attacks

A: Claw Swipe
AA: Claw Swipe
AAA/Hold A: Infinite Kazooie Pecks

Side A: (Beak Bayonet) Banjo uses Kazooie as a bayonet and pokes opponent, great range and keeps opponents at bay.

Down A: While crouched, Kazooie quickly pecks at opponent at a downward angle.

Up A: Kazooie does an upward double wing whack that sends opponent upwards.

Dash Attack: Roll Attack similar to DK.

Smash Attacks:

Side Smash: (Breegull Bash) Banjo slams Kazooie on the ground with considerable force, great range and high knockback.

Down Smash: (Pack Whack) Banjo Swings Backpack 360 degrees hitting opponents left and right.

Up Smash: (3 ideas) Kazooie does a 1-2 Wing Whack followed by an upward beak peck, Quick Triple beak peck or Upward Beak Drill sending opponents upward.

Special Attacks:

B: (Egg Fire) Kazooie fires eggs.

(Blue) Rapidly fires 3 at a time, Low knockback.

(Fire) Rapidly fires burning red eggs.

(Ice) Rapidly fires freezing ice eggs, freezes opponents at high percentage damage.

(Grenade) Fires explosive eggs one at a time, but has high knockback.

Hold B: (Change Egg's) Blue/Fire/Ice/Grenade.

Side B: (Beak Barge/Bomb) Banjo and Kazooie charge themselves up and lunge with a powerful beak strike.

Down B: (Clockwork Kazooie Egg) Kazooie lays an egg that hatches into a Mini Mecha Kazooie, can be controlled and detonates after a 5-7 seconds or when the player presses B or walk around aimlessly like Bowser Jr's.

Up B: The duo can launch themselves upwards to fly like their launch pad animation damage the opponent in the process.

Aerial Attacks:

A: (Pack Whack /Wing Whack) Banjo swings his backpack airborne in a 360 degree spin or Kazooie Slashes opponent with her wings in a 360 degree spin.

Forward A: (Rat-a-tat-Rap) Kazooie does a forward triple peck, quick and great for short hopping.

Back A: (Rat-a-tat-Rap) Backwards triple peck or Banjo can swing his backpack backwards.

Up A: Banjo swings Kazooie or backpack in an arch or Kazooie pecks multiple times.

Down A: (Beak Buster) The duo flips upside down and Kazooie pounds the ground with her beak spiking the opponent.

Hold Down A: (Bill Drill) The duo takes a second to wind up and Kazooie Drills downward on opponent, stronger than the Beak Buster.

Grab and Throws:

Pummel: Banjo grabs a hold of opponent while Kazooie pecks them.

Forward: Banjo throws opponent over his head in an arch with both paws like in his games when he gives items to NPC's.

Back: Banjo stuffs opponent in Backpack spins him around and is thrown in the process.

Down: Banjo slams opponent to the ground and uses Kazooie like a Jackhammer in the process.

Up: Banjo throws opponent up and Kazooie pecks them upward.

Shield: Kazooie covers Banjo with her wings, like her (Wonder Wing) animation.

Final Smash: Daddy T-Rex /Jinjonator

Taunts:

Kazooie pecks Banjo's head like their Idle animation,

Banjo strums his instrument to the last tune in their theme song.

Banjo chokes Kazooie and laughs afterwards.


Victory Screen Pose:

Duo performs their Jiggy Dance like when they collect a Jiggy and Kazooie swallows it.

Banjo Dances and the duo takes a bow twice like when they collect all the Jiggy's in one world.

The Duo play their instruments to the last tune of their theme song like in thier video game intro.

Victory Theme: The tune that plays when they collect 1 or all the Jiggy's in a world.
 
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Leaks that predicted Banjo and Erdrick aren't really that credible they've been 2 or the hottest characters for this entire DLC period.
 

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I’m still thinking Erdrick could very easily be leakbait and that it’s a different character coming with Banjo at E3.
 

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Leaks that predicted Banjo and Erdrick aren't really that credible they've been 2 or the hottest characters for this entire DLC period.
I agree. They are 2 safe bets. Erdrick because of how massive dragon quest is, and banjo due to the growing relationship between nintendo and Microsoft, and their high popularity and Sakurai considered them for melee.

So honestly, the last 2 can be anyone at all. Personally, i hope its Shantae and then Reimu/tales of rep(hoping for Velvet but most likely its Lloyd), or Donbe and Hikari(from nintendos Onigashima game)

I’m still thinking Erdrick could very easily be leakbait and that it’s a different character coming with Banjo at E3.
Very possible. Honestly i want slime over erdrick if we have to get a dragon quest character. He is the face of the series, and would be a super unique fighter. Or we could be suprised and get Geno
 
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Doom Slayer would be THE DREAM double reveal with Banjo at E3, but Erdrick is about what I expect. It's been set up for 4 months.
 
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Everyone predicting 2 reveals are cowards. Go all in, 3 reveals: Banjo, Erdrick, and Doomguy. One for the West (Doom), one for the East (Erdrick), one for both (Banjo). One at a separate conference like Xbox's or Bethesda, 2 at Nintendo's conference. It it likely? Probably not. Am I really expecting it? No. Is it possible? Yes, and it would be hype.
 
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Is Playtonic planning something? They made a post on Twitter saying "Bee back tomorrow" or something along those lines. Honestly, all I can of is a Buck Bumble revival. :)
 

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Doom Slayer would be THE DREAM double reveal with Banjo at E3, but Erdrick is about what I expect. It's been set up for 4 months.
Actually more than six months at this point, if your marker is when Tansut leaked a DQ rep and claimed it would be Erdrick. In fact, it's been set up for even longer, if you count when Verg started shouting from the rooftops that a Square Enix rep was inevitable.
 

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Is Playtonic planning something? They made a post on Twitter saying "Bee back tomorrow" or something along those lines. Honestly, all I can of is a Buck Bumble revival. :)
Bees make honey.

And you know what animal likes honey?
 

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I think it's more likely Phil Spencer shows up in the Nintendo Direct, rather than Doug Bowser being at the Microsoft conference (weird to have his first appearance be at another company's conference). Phil could talk about ports coming over to Switch and then get the time honored, "One more thing", leading to the Smash intro.
I like that idea.
 

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I have a crazy theory. What if Erdrick is actually a culmination of all of the Dragon Quest protagonists from the first eight games and they function like alternate costumes akin to Bowser Jr. and the koopalings?

I may not know much about Dragon Quest but people have being saying Brave and Erdrick is a title given to the protagonists and as far as I know, their abilities and what they do aren't all that different from each other. I might be spouting out nonsense so if I am you can ignore me.
 
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