Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[ChinaCat]

I'm coming around on tournament theory. I think we'll get an Erdrick(or hopefully slime) reveal at the smash tourney on 6/8, so that the following day it can be published in that Japanese magazine.

Since E3 is happening at like the middle of the night for japan it would make sense that if they were going to reveal Erdrick that "big announcement" would be their way of communicating the news on the home-front (where all his actual fans live).

I'm trying to reconcile why they would release Erdrick at E3 when all his fans are sleeping and this is the best idea I could formulate.. I think this scenerio makes more sense then a direct starting with erdrick and ending with banjo but then again nintendo gonna nintendo so who knows wtf they'll do.

Can anyone refresh me on details about that Dragon quest "upcoming news" announcement that was discussed a while ago ? Things have been buried so far on this thread now ive given up trying to track down the specific details and i'm hoping someone just remembers or something. IIRC it would be coming out the day after the tourney but i'm fuzzy on that fact.

 

[TemporalShrew]

I'm coming around on tournament theory. I think we'll get an Erdrick(or hopefully slime) reveal at the smash tourney on 6/8, so that the following day it can be published in that Japanese magazine.

Since E3 is happening at like the middle of the night for japan it would make sense that if they were going to reveal Erdrick that "big announcement" would be their way of communicating the news on the home-front (where all his actual fans live).

I'm trying to reconcile why they would release Erdrick at E3 when all his fans are sleeping and this is the best idea I could formulate.. I think this scenerio makes more sense then a direct starting with erdrick and ending with banjo but then again nintendo gonna nintendo so who knows wtf they'll do.

Can anyone refresh me on details about that Dragon quest "upcoming news" announcement that was discussed a while ago ? Things have been buried so far on this thread now ive given up trying to track down the specific details and i'm hoping someone just remembers or something. IIRC it would be coming out the day after the tourney but i'm fuzzy on that fact.

I don't think we know exactly the "upcoming news" that Shōnen Jump is going to contain yet, honestly, but DQ has been announcing quite a bit. The two that stick out are the announcement that DQXII is in development and that of their weird Pokemon-GO-esque mobile game.

I believe they claimed the news featured in Shōnen Jump would be "unexpected," or something to that effect, so the way I see it, either it's going to inexplicably be about their mobile game, there's a new DQ manga-related announcement to make, or it's Smash.

The thing for me is that I don't think Jump usually covers video game news or announcements, relevant or otherwise, but I'm open to being wrong about that.

 

[AngrySun88]

So if Banjo is revealed, when do you think they'll reveal him?

Shadow drop at Smash tournament
Microsoft event
Start of the Nintendo Direct
End of Nintendo Direct

I'm thinking Nintendo will go out with a bang and reveal Banjo at the end, but it would be very interesting to see if they reveal him at some special presentation at Microsoft's event. It would break the internet and and it could be the "something new" Microsoft was hinting at.

We invited something new to #XboxE3 this year.

— Xbox (@Xbox) June 5, 2019

 

[ze9]

If they reveal both Banjo and the Doom Guy I'd feel kind of dirty. Too much awesomeness in a single feed. Like, the season pass could end then and there and I'd be satisfied.

Erdrick would be cool too, but he's not as hype as Doom Guy to me.

But really, if Banjo is really coming, I'm fine with just Banjo. I wouldn't be able to play as any other character for a good couple of months anyways.

 

[ChinaCat]

I don't think we know exactly the "upcoming news" that Shōnen Jump is going to contain yet, honestly, but DQ has been announcing quite a bit. The two that stick out are the announcement that DQXII is in development and that of their weird Pokemon-GO-esque mobile game.

I believe they claimed the news featured in Shōnen Jump would be "unexpected," or something to that effect, so the way I see it, either it's going to inexplicably be about their mobile game, there's a new DQ manga-related announcement to make, or it's Smash.

The thing for me is that I don't think Jump usually covers video game news or announcements, relevant or otherwise, but I'm open to being wrong about that.

Of course we don't know what news will be in that, if we did my entire post would read like nonsense haha sorry for potentially being confusing. I just couldn't remember the exact date, which publication (thanks for clarifying shonen), and other details like the "unexpected" part. Wasnt there a tweet or something announcing it? With the info that its Shonen i should be able to dig around more successfully

 

[Extrain]

If Erdrick and Banjo Kazooie come to E3, that gives the 4chan leak that also said Leon Kennedy and Lloyd Irving would be joining the fighters pass more credibility. Not that it's a bad thing. I wish I could find that leak though... :^(

Edit: Here is the link if you wish to view it but I'll screen cap it below: https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/463256834/

Good to keep an eye on, but it’s weird his “account” got shut down? The Gematsu leaked didn’t have an account, he was an associate of Sal Romano that communicated with him through email alone. I think Sal would’ve been the first to know if this if anything; this guys story doesn’t really add up.

 

[Justin Little]

What if RARE's new multiplayer game was Diddy Kong Racing 2!? Just random thoughts from yours truly.

Also, can't wait to see what Playtonic has in store for tomorrow! This E3 is going to be rad, I can feel it.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

I actually have a question I have been meaning to ask for "Younger" Nintendo/Smash fans.

What is your take and view on Banjo-Kazooie as characters and as a franchise and how were you introduced to it? Nuts & Bolts? Older Sibling?

I only ask because obviously older fans were lucky enough to see Banjo-Kazooie in their "Prime" back in the late 90's - 2001 and we have always seen them as another All-Star of Nintendo's cast of characters and Nintendo definitely marketed them that way, Everytime I see some fan question their legacy, I click their profile name and most of the time it's someone still in their teens or barely 20 and my answer to them is that "Of course you won't understand, You weren't around to see them in their prime back when they were big deal in the N64 era".

Some fans think that we push Banjo-Kazooie as some big video game icon of the industry, But we really don't, BK is clearly not on the level of legends like Mario, Donkey Kong and Pikachu, But we have a different standard for Banjo-Kazooie compared to your average 3rd Party Character.

Unlike say Crash Bandicoot or Rayman, Banjo-Kazooie was created and brought up to be a Nintendo character in mind, Not to mention Rareware (2nd Party) was Nintendo's Right hand studio that made a name in themselves in the 90's by reviving Donkey Kong and (Along with Mario is the company's most cherished character) helped Nintendo fight back Sega during the 16-bit console wars and carried the N64 along with Nintendo when just about all major 3rd Party's jumped ship to Sony's Playstation.

Remember when fans were upset that Crash Bandicoot didn't make it into Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale? Though Crash had a bigger impact than Banjo-Kazooie I still view BK's situation pretty similarly, Crash Bandicoot is a 3rd Party Character who's legacy and impact was on the PS1 in the late 90's too which is why he's still beloved by older Playstation fans, He may be owned by a 3rd Party in Activision, But because of his origins and impact he will always be seen as a Sony Playstation Character.

Banjo-Kazooie is owned by Microsoft and is technically an Xbox character, But their origins,impact and legacy was on the N64 which is why they are still beloved by older Nintendo fans and will forever be recognized as Nintendo Characters.

They may not be a big deal in the grand scheme of gaming as other major 3rd Party icons, But you have to view it from a Nintendo fan perspective, They still managed to play a significant part of Nintendo's history during the N64 era and That's what Super Smash Bros is mainly about.

So when you think about it, Is it honestly really that big of a surprise that their is huge demand for a beloved once owned Nintendo character to join a fighting game mainly about Nintendo characters and history made primarly for Nintendo fans?

Me thinks not.

 

[TemporalShrew]

Of course we don't know what news will be in that, if we did my entire post would read like nonsense haha sorry for potentially being confusing. I just couldn't remember the exact date, which publication (thanks for clarifying shonen), and other details like the "unexpected" part. Wasnt there a tweet or something announcing it? With the info that its Shonen i should be able to dig around more successfully

Ah, my apologies, I must have misunderstood the original post!

I believe the original announcement is in Japanese, but the initial translation was done by Gematsu, here. The issue is out on the 10th, which coincides with Square's press conference date.

That makes me pretty sure it's not Smash, though, since I don't think Nintendo would ever let Square Enix announce a Smash character, if we're all debating whether even Microsoft would get that honor.

 

[Deleted member]

So if Banjo is revealed, when do you think they'll reveal him?

Shadow drop at Smash tournament
Microsoft event
Start of the Nintendo Direct
End of Nintendo Direct

I'm thinking Nintendo will go out with a bang and reveal Banjo at the end, but it would be very interesting to see if they reveal him at some special presentation at Microsoft's event. It would break the internet and and it could be the "something new" Microsoft was hinting at.

We invited something new to #XboxE3 this year.

— Xbox (@Xbox) June 5, 2019

At the end of the E3 presentation to cause bigger reactions similar to K.Rool.

Meanwhile, the DQ rep would be at the start to make the surprise even bigger.

 

[ChinaCat]

Ah, my apologies, I must have misunderstood the original post!

I believe the original announcement is in Japanese, but the initial translation was done by Gematsu, here. The issue is out on the 10th, which coincides with Square's press conference date.

That makes me pretty sure it's not Smash, though, since I don't think Nintendo would ever let Square Enix announce a Smash character, if we're all debating whether even Microsoft would get that honor.

Well in my scenerio i laid out they wouldnt be the ones revealing it. Nintendo would at their own tournement. But then a big announcement to japan would happen after. But where I think this theory falls short is the dates. If the smash tourney ends 6/8 then the article being on 6/10 is problematic because that leaves a whole day of no news.... Hmmmm back to the drawing board.

 

[chocolatejr9]

I actually have a question I have been meaning to ask for "Younger" Nintendo/Smash fans.

What is your take and view on Banjo-Kazooie as characters and as a franchise and how were you introduced to it? Nuts & Bolts? Older Sibling?

I only ask because obviously older fans were lucky enough to see Banjo-Kazooie in their "Prime" back in the late 90's - 2001 and we have always seen them as another All-Star of Nintendo's cast of characters and Nintendo definitely marketed them that way, Everytime I see some fan question their legacy, I click their profile name and most of the time it's someone still in their teens or barely 20 and my answer to them is that "Of course you won't understand, You weren't around to see them in their prime back when they were big deal in the N64 era".

Some fans think that we push Banjo-Kazooie as some big video game icon of the industry, But we really don't, BK is clearly not on the level of legends like Mario, Donkey Kong and Pikachu, But we have a different standard for Banjo-Kazooie compared to your average 3rd Party Character.

Unlike say Crash Bandicoot or Rayman, Banjo-Kazooie was created and brought up to be a Nintendo character in mind, Not to mention Rareware (2nd Party) was Nintendo's Right hand studio that made a name in themselves in the 90's by reviving Donkey Kong and (Along with Mario is the company's most cherished character) helped Nintendo fight back Sega during the 16-bit console wars and carried the N64 along with Nintendo when just about all major 3rd Party's jumped ship to Sony's Playstation.

Remember when fans were upset that Crash Bandicoot didn't make it into Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale? Though Crash had a bigger impact than Banjo-Kazooie I still view BK's situation pretty similarly, Crash Bandicoot is a 3rd Party Character who's legacy and impact was on the PS1 in the late 90's too which is why he's still beloved by older Playstation fans, He may be owned by a 3rd Party in Activision, But because of his origins and impact he will always be seen as a Sony Playstation Character.

Banjo-Kazooie is owned by Microsoft and is technically an Xbox character, But their origins,impact and legacy was on the N64 which is why they are still beloved by older Nintendo fans and will forever be recognized as Nintendo Characters.

They may not be a big deal in the grand scheme of gaming as other major 3rd Party icons, But you have to view it from a Nintendo fan perspective, They still managed to play a significant part of Nintendo's history during the N64 era and That's what Super Smash Bros is mainly about.

So when you think about it, Is it honestly really that big of a surprise that their is huge demand for a beloved once owned Nintendo character to join a fighting game mainly about Nintendo characters and history made primarly for Nintendo fans?

Me thinks not.

For me, I find them to be... alright. They're not the most complex characters in all of gaming, but they were never meant to be. That being said, I've only played Nuts & Bolts, so I may not have a true opinion, but I ultimately don't mind them. Although I should mention that I'm fully aware of their significance and why everybody loves them.

 

[MissingGlitch]

I still don’t understand how we got to the conclusion that Erdrick has basically been confirmed because of one guy’s opinion and game sales but whatever. As long as the last two fighters aren’t human styled and/or use a sword I guess I’ll be fine. I really don’t want the majority of the fighter pass to be human sword fighters.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

From EB Games Australia

Yet another instance of the duo being front and center

 

[JonSmash]

yeah the worst part of banjo being on xbox is not just banjo not being in smash but that banjo is not in mario kart, party or any sports games, where he belongs just like DK & Diddy IMO :/

 

[BZocky]

From EB Games Australia

View attachment 226235

Yet another instance of the duo being front and center

I knew that we couldn’t have joker in smash without Batman, it was only a matter of time

 

[Deleted member]

I knew that we couldn’t have joker in smash without Batman, it was only a matter of time

Yeah, can’t wait for Black Shadow as the new F-Zero rep!

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

I knew that we couldn’t have joker in smash without Batman, it was only a matter of time

I know the decision to make Jasmine a Zelda echo was a controversial one but frankly I'm here for it!

 

[TemporalShrew]

On the note of not wanting human sword fighters, can I just say I really want another quadruped character? Surely they've gotten somewhat used to the basic idea of developing them, given how well Ivysaur turned out.

Amaterasu? Spyro? C'mon, Sakurai, you can make it happen.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

So if Banjo is revealed, when do you think they'll reveal him?

Shadow drop at Smash tournament
Microsoft event
Start of the Nintendo Direct
End of Nintendo Direct

I'm thinking Nintendo will go out with a bang and reveal Banjo at the end, but it would be very interesting to see if they reveal him at some special presentation at Microsoft's event. It would break the internet and and it could be the "something new" Microsoft was hinting at.

We invited something new to #XboxE3 this year.

— Xbox (@Xbox) June 5, 2019

I think they would reveal him at the Smash tournament. It would have an audience and it be awesome to hear the reactions.

I still don’t understand how we got to the conclusion that Erdrick has basically been confirmed because of one guy’s opinion and game sales but whatever. As long as the last two fighters aren’t human styled and/or use a sword I guess I’ll be fine. I really don’t want the majority of the fighter pass to be human sword fighters.

Yeah, there isn't a whole lot of evidence pointing towards Erdrick and Square Enix are notorious for their leak bait game. Everyone is banking on Tansut and Vergeben being correct about Erdrick as well as the mass advertising Dragon Quest is getting... So kind of like us but with less leakers vouching for him.

 

[Deleted member]

I’m not one to talk regarding the matter of sword users in Smash since I do want some to get in (although I respect anyone who doesn’t as long as they are cool people).

However, I think that on the topic of quadruped characters Spyro would be amazing if we get Crash... Even if he is sadly harder to get in due to how Japan doesn’t enjoy the purple dragon.

But yeah, Spyro would be sweet.

 

[egaddmario]

FYI, if y'all don't buy the Fighter Pass after Banjo is revealed after saying you would, I'm holding EACH of you accountable for it. Nintendo/Microsoft did its part, you need to do yours.

 

[Brothanigus]

So if Banjo is revealed, when do you think they'll reveal him?

Shadow drop at Smash tournament
Microsoft event
Start of the Nintendo Direct
End of Nintendo Direct

I'm thinking Nintendo will go out with a bang and reveal Banjo at the end, but it would be very interesting to see if they reveal him at some special presentation at Microsoft's event. It would break the internet and and it could be the "something new" Microsoft was hinting at.

We invited something new to #XboxE3 this year.

— Xbox (@Xbox) June 5, 2019

I think it'll be shown during the Microsoft conference, just like how Joker was revealed during the game awards and not during a direct.

 

[Deleted member]

I think they would reveal him at the Smash tournament. It would have an audience and it be awesome to hear the reactions.



Yeah, there isn't a whole lot of evidence pointing towards Erdrick and Square Enix are notorious for their leak bait game. Everyone is banking on Tansut and Vergeben being correct about Erdrick as well as the mass advertising Dragon Quest is getting... So kind of like us but with less leakers vouching for him.

Not only that, but DQ has gotten each of their current titles on Nintendo systems like the Switch so far and stuff like the DQ5 movie, DQXIS and DQXII make the idea of Smash getting DQ content more plausible than ever before.

That being said, I never claim any pick to be a lock after seeing what happened with Shadow.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

yeah the worst part of banjo being on xbox is not just banjo not being in smash but that banjo is not in mario kart, party or any sports games, where he belongs just like DK & Diddy IMO :/

To be honest as much as I would like for Banjo-Kazooie to be in Mario Spinoffs, Even if they were owned by Nintendo (Outside of Smash) I don't think they would be regulars in them, Maybe as guest or secret character for a one time thing occasionally.

Donkey Kong and Mario are forever connected because of their origins in the 1981 Arcade game they shared together, That's why DK is the exception and sometimes "Country" elements and characters such as Diddy Kong carry over to Mario Kart, Party, Tennis etc, Where as Banjo-Kazooie was spun off from Donkey Kong through Diddy Kong Racing and their ties with Mario aren't as clear, I can see Banjo-Kazooie appearing more in certain Donkey Kong spin offs if Nintendo bought Rare, But not so much Mario.

It's kind of like when you (Donkey Kong) go to your best friends house (Mario) who you visit regularly and one day you bring another friend (Banjo-Kazooie) along who isn't as familiar to your best friend (Mario) or who is part of another group of friends that your trying to overlap with another and doesn't always mesh, You can bring them over once in a while for like lunch or BBQ , But they aren't close enough with your best friend to come over regularly.

Pretty much a friend of a friend situation.

 

[chocolatejr9]

FYI, if y'all don't buy the Fighter Pass after Banjo is revealed after saying you would, I'm holding EACH of you accountable for it. Nintendo/Microsoft did its part, you need to do yours.

Actually, assuming we get two characters announced at E3, that should be enough for me to justify buying it.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

FYI, if y'all don't buy the Fighter Pass after Banjo is revealed after saying you would, I'm holding EACH of you accountable for it. Nintendo/Microsoft did its part, you need to do yours.

It's better to buy it seperately so then they'll get more money! :^)

 

[Deleted member]

Actually, assuming we get two characters announced at E3, that should be enough for me to justify buying it.

Ngl, I’m probably gonna pick the full pass if they confirm DQ getting in.

With either Crash or DQ in Smash, I wouldn’t need to worry about who else is getting in anymore.

And the idea of having both Banjo, Crash and Dragon Quest in Smash is the stuff of my dreams.

 

[TheZoologist]

FYI, if y'all don't buy the Fighter Pass after Banjo is revealed after saying you would, I'm holding EACH of you accountable for it. Nintendo/Microsoft did its part, you need to do yours.

If Banjo & Kazooie get announced, I'm buying it the day of, no questions asked. They're literally all I want and having everything else in the Fighter Pass available would be the piece de resistance!

 

[JonSmash]

IDK we got splatoon & link & animal crossing in mario kart now, I fell banjo would show up when diddy shows up with is once in awile

 

[Deleted member]

If Banjo & Kazooie get announced, I'm buying it the day of, no questions asked. They're literally all I want and having everything else in the Fighter Pass available would be the piece de resistance!

I will likely get Banjo the day he gets released without any wait.

And if Dragon Quest or Crash also get revealed at E3 we will be happy, my partners who also want DQ will be happy, and I will also be as happy as I always hope to be.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

IDK we got splatoon & link & animal crossing in mario kart now, I fell banjo would show up when diddy shows up with is once in awile

True, But that's the only one time in Mario Kart's 25 year history (MK 8 DX 2017) they made an appearance, Diddy Kong should be a regular ,But for whatever reason Nintendo has him as a semi-regular, But like I said Diddy is part of the Donkey Kong franchise in which DK has always appeared in Mario Spinoffs.

But Banjo-Kazooie isn't part of the "Core" Mario cast or super close to it like DK to be in them regularly, But can definitely make a guest appearence once or twice for special occasions like Inkling or Isabelle in Mario Kart 8 DX.

 

[Ura]

TBH, Banjo is likely what's going to sell me on the Fighter's Pass. I was hesitant to buy it at first but if mother flipping Banjo is in then count me on board for the FP.

 

[ZoroCarlos]

True, But that's the only one time in Mario Kart's 25 year history (MK 8 DX 2017) they made an appearance, Diddy Kong should be a regular ,But for whatever reason Nintendo has him as a semi-regular, But like I said Diddy is part of the Donkey Kong franchise in which DK has always appeared in Mario Spinoffs.

But Banjo-Kazooie isn't part of the "Core" Mario cast or super close to it like DK to be in them regularly, But can definitely make a guest appearence once or twice for special occasions like Inkling or Isabelle in Mario Kart 8 DX.

I wish Mario Kart would just spread its horizons to the spin-offs. I'd love myself some Warioware and Tropical Freeze themed tracks. As well as getting fellows like K. Rool, Ashley and Poochy playable.

 

[MissingGlitch]

As much as I want Banjo. His inclusion alone wouldn't make the fighter pass completely worth it for me. Especially since there is the chance I will only like him out of the entire pass. Which wouldn't be worth $25.

 

[ze9]

I still plan on purchasing everyone singularly.
Well, it's not like I have a choice anymore, since I did exactly that for Joker.
I REALLY don't want new Fire Emblem shill characters, Corrin's reveal is still deeply etched in my mind.

 

[ChinaCat]

I still don’t understand how we got to the conclusion that Erdrick has basically been confirmed because of one guy’s opinion and game sales but whatever. As long as the last two fighters aren’t human styled and/or use a sword I guess I’ll be fine. I really don’t want the majority of the fighter pass to be human sword fighters.

come to think of it.. your totally right. Erdrick doesn't really have anything more going for him than steve did a month ago. Its like a case of when the same thing gets repeated enough people start to believe it which is what they do in politics and stuff. Repeat a lie enough times and it becomes the truth. Really though I do think a square rep is a pretty safe bet, and I really hope erdrick is leakbait for a better SE rep which could be likely considering SE's rep with leaks.

 

[Banjoisawesome2020]

The Smash Bros. Ultimate 3 v 3 tournament is soon. I hope they show Banjo there!

I actually have a question I have been meaning to ask for "Younger" Nintendo/Smash fans.

What is your take and view on Banjo-Kazooie as characters and as a franchise and how were you introduced to it? Nuts & Bolts? Older Sibling?

I only ask because obviously older fans were lucky enough to see Banjo-Kazooie in their "Prime" back in the late 90's - 2001 and we have always seen them as another All-Star of Nintendo's cast of characters and Nintendo definitely marketed them that way, Everytime I see some fan question their legacy, I click their profile name and most of the time it's someone still in their teens or barely 20 and my answer to them is that "Of course you won't understand, You weren't around to see them in their prime back when they were big deal in the N64 era".

Some fans think that we push Banjo-Kazooie as some big video game icon of the industry, But we really don't, BK is clearly not on the level of legends like Mario, Donkey Kong and Pikachu, But we have a different standard for Banjo-Kazooie compared to your average 3rd Party Character.

Unlike say Crash Bandicoot or Rayman, Banjo-Kazooie was created and brought up to be a Nintendo character in mind, Not to mention Rareware (2nd Party) was Nintendo's Right hand studio that made a name in themselves in the 90's by reviving Donkey Kong and (Along with Mario is the company's most cherished character) helped Nintendo fight back Sega during the 16-bit console wars and carried the N64 along with Nintendo when just about all major 3rd Party's jumped ship to Sony's Playstation.

Remember when fans were upset that Crash Bandicoot didn't make it into Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale? Though Crash had a bigger impact than Banjo-Kazooie I still view BK's situation pretty similarly, Crash Bandicoot is a 3rd Party Character who's legacy and impact was on the PS1 in the late 90's too which is why he's still beloved by older Playstation fans, He may be owned by a 3rd Party in Activision, But because of his origins and impact he will always be seen as a Sony Playstation Character.

Banjo-Kazooie is owned by Microsoft and is technically an Xbox character, But their origins,impact and legacy was on the N64 which is why they are still beloved by older Nintendo fans and will forever be recognized as Nintendo Characters.

They may not be a big deal in the grand scheme of gaming as other major 3rd Party icons, But you have to view it from a Nintendo fan perspective, They still managed to play a significant part of Nintendo's history during the N64 era and That's what Super Smash Bros is mainly about.

So when you think about it, Is it honestly really that big of a surprise that their is huge demand for a beloved once owned Nintendo character to join a fighting game mainly about Nintendo characters and history made primarly for Nintendo fans?

Me thinks not.

So true. So very true.

If Banjo & Kazooie get announced, I'm buying it the day of, no questions asked. They're literally all I want and having everything else in the Fighter Pass available would be the piece de resistance!

I already bought it. With an official Fighter's Pass card.

 

[RETROROTER]

yeah the worst part of banjo being on xbox is not just banjo not being in smash but that banjo is not in mario kart, party or any sports games, where he belongs just like DK & Diddy IMO :/

I feel the same way, if Banjo was still here, he would appear in almost all Mario spin offs and maybe some mainline Mario titles

 

[dlewis53]

come to think of it.. your totally right. Erdrick doesn't really have anything more going for him than steve did a month ago. Its like a case of when the same thing gets repeated enough people start to believe it which is what they do in politics and stuff. Repeat a lie enough times and it becomes the truth. Really though I do think a square rep is a pretty safe bet, and I really hope erdrick is leakbait for a better SE rep which could be likely considering SE's rep with leaks.

Yeah, from what I've read about this Tansuit guy (particularly in the situation surrounding his beliefs with Erdrick), it REALLY feels like a stretch to confidently say that he's in. And aside from Verge (who I don't really buy into with DLC), he's the ONLY notable person who's said that Erdrick is coming, which, compared to recent stuff we've gotten with Banjo-Kazooie, isn't enough to convince me that he's in without him straight-up being confirmed at the Nintendo Direct.

Speaking of which, I feel like, if we DO get two reps revealed here, then the most likely scenario is that the Nintendo Direct is essentially book-ended with Smash announcements, one at the very beginning and one at the very end.