Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[SuperiorYoshi87]

I don't think character bashing is necessary... I mean I'm not a Golden Sun fan but geez... I think there's some pretty harsh mud slinging happening right now... any character is iconic to their fans. If Isaac was so irrelevant he wouldn't have a fan base... nor would the series have spawned multiple sequels..

 

[TheAnvil]

The first Golden Sun game sold more than Banjo-Tooie

Banjo Tooie (N64 version only) sold 1.5m. Golden Sun (1) sold around 1m. So no. It didn't.

 

[Organization XIII]

Banjo Tooie (N64 version only) sold 1.5m. Golden Sun (1) sold around 1m. So no. It didn't.

GS1 sold closer to 2 million than 1 million

 

[SilentSentinel]

Banjo Tooie (N64 version only) sold 1.5m. Golden Sun (1) sold around 1m. So no. It didn't.

Your numbers on Banjo-Tooie are correct, but your numbers on Golden Sun aren't. According to the Computer Entertainment Suppliers Association, Golden sun sold 1.65 million copies globally.

 

[Xevious 1]

Ain't gonna derail the BK thread about Isaac anymore, but I'll just say Golden Sun wasn't even popular enough to sell. Isaac's so irrelevant his assist trophy was removed, even over long dead characters like Barbara and Devil. Banjo's still popular enough that an unrelated spiritual successor broke kickstarter records (at least at the time).

I'm not even writing off his popularity, he's one of the more popular Nintendo characters left. But it's simply because there's no one else now. His popularity during the Brawl and Smash For days was nowhere near the level of K. Rool or Ridley. It'd be disingenuous to say anything else.

Geno is obscure as all hell, Isaac never really made it big and Bandana Dee is a generic. Under normal circumstances, they'd all be increadibly unlikely but, in this new age where fan demand is everything, it seems like anyone goes. At least, for a certain specific definition of anyone.

That makes it really hard to know who is and isn't likely among the now top candidates when not one of them feels like they belong.

Banjo is certainly the big name of the bunch but does that even matter anymore?

Both of the GBA Golden Sun games sold over a million copies. “Flop?” Really? Now you’re just being contrarion.

Some people get really testy with characters they see as competition. Banjo has competition with literally no character due to being owned by a rival company, he is either in or isn't. Sakurai isn't making a list and looking at Banjo and Isaac and going "yeah I'll choose Isaac, we don't have room for Banjo"

 

[TheAnvil]

Your numbers on Banjo-Tooie are correct, but your numbers on Golden Sun aren't. According to the Computer Entertainment Suppliers Association, Golden sun sold 1.65 million copies globally.

According to wikipedia's cited sales figures, GS sold around 1.1m (740 in US and 338 in Japan).

 

[Dee Dude]

You know the worse thing that would happen if Banjo-Kazooie got in?

If Sakurai gave them realistic bear & bird noises.

 

[Organization XIII]

You know the worse thing that would happen if Banjo-Kazooie got in?

If Sakurai gave them realistic bear & bird noises.

Oh god that would be terrible

 

[SilentSentinel]

According to wikipedia's cited sales figures, GS sold around 1.1m (740 in US and 338 in Japan).

That's funny cause my numbers are also cited on Wikipedia and backed by a very credible gaming organization.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Game_Boy_Advance_video_games

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

Damn, it's getting heated in here, Look I'm not gonna lie I've been guilty of throwing other characters under the bus in favor for Banjo-Kazooie too, but I don't want the community to get toxic and hated, I know it gets competitive among other fanbases ,but let's calm down, It's Banjo-Kazooie 20th Anniversary and I can see we are frustrated from lack of Smash news or a new game announcement, friendly arguments are one thing ,But imagine if other fanbases were ripping Banjo-Kazooie on their support threads too(which I am sure has happened, this is the internet after all) some and myself included would get pissed off and defensive as well.

 

[TheAnvil]

That's funny cause my numbers are also cited on Wikipedia and backed by a very credible gaming organization.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Game_Boy_Advance_video_games

That's odd that they have conflicting reports on wikipedia then.

 

[SilentSentinel]

I think people are just getting heated because things are coming down to the wire and there are probably only a few characters left. Some of the old mentality of "if this character gets in then there's no space for my character" seems to be leaking in several threads as well. Comparing Golden Sun and Banjo-Kazooie's sales numbers doesn't even effect whether one or the other or both will get in anyway. A character like Banjo is in a unique situation compared to most possible characters, if he was negotiated to be in then his inclusion will happen. There's no need to try to minimize the chances or importance of other characters unless they have been deconfirmed. This isn't just happening in here though, it's something that a bunch of threads seem to be dealing with.

 

[TheZoologist]

These have been around for a while ,but I'm willing to bet no one has brought this up and it's very interesting that they still mention it.

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-64/Banjo-Kazooie-269415.html

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-64/Banjo-Tooie-269426.html

In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, their games were also included as part of the Chronicle detailing every Nintendo game from Game and Watch to the Wii at the time! Would love to see the Chronicle make a comeback in Ultimate as a nice little visual history to Nintendo.

 

[Blue7113]

Why can’t we have both Isaac and Banjo? They seem like they could be included together

 

[Hobnail Boot]

I think people are just getting heated because things are coming down to the wire and there are probably only a few characters left. Some of the old mentality of "if this character gets in then there's no space for my character" seems to be leaking in several threads as well. Comparing Golden Sun and Banjo-Kazooie's sales numbers doesn't even effect whether one or the other or both will get in anyway. A character like Banjo is in a unique situation compared to most possible characters, if he was negotiated to be in then his inclusion will happen. There's no need to try to minimize the chances or importance of other characters unless they have been deconfirmed. This isn't just happening in here though, it's something that a bunch of threads seem to be dealing with.

I agree, and time will tell. Truth be told I want both Isaac and BK in (along with Bub and Bob from Bubble Bobble) and I'll be happy for either. Obviously I want BK more because I'm more attached to them but with the way this game is shaping up I won't be disappointed regardless.

 

[Organization XIII]

In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, their games were also included as part of the Chronicle detailing every Nintendo game from Game and Watch to the Wii at the time! Would love to see the Chronicle make a comeback in Ultimate as a nice little visual history to Nintendo.

Man me too. The chronicle was an awesome idea and it's something that I would love to see return.

 

[JonSmash]

is this the isaac thread ??? why we no chatting about banjo ?

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

I think people are just getting heated because things are coming down to the wire and there are probably only a few characters left. Some of the old mentality of "if this character gets in then there's no space for my character" seems to be leaking in several threads as well. Comparing Golden Sun and Banjo-Kazooie's sales numbers doesn't even effect whether one or the other or both will get in anyway. A character like Banjo is in a unique situation compared to most possible characters, if he was negotiated to be in then his inclusion will happen. There's no need to try to minimize the chances or importance of other characters unless they have been deconfirmed. This isn't just happening in here though, it's something that a bunch of threads seem to be dealing with.

The only threads I've been in were Banjo-Kazooie's and King K.Rool's (Pokemon ones too)and tons of fans of Rare are normally fans of both so they don't cannabalize each other, but I haven't been on other most requested newcomer threads since some of them don't interest me, but it's probably best that I don't. So I haven't really seen the landscape of backlash.

You know the worse thing that would happen if Banjo-Kazooie got in?

If Sakurai gave them realistic bear & bird noises.

Banjo and Kazooie going primal and showing their feral side would be pretty funny, but yeah imagine if Yoshi roared like a raptor.

 

[JonSmash]

Isn't yoshi a Gecko ? Also someone should make a video with banjo & kazooie with realistic sounds LOL

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Because most of us support both

I don't think character bashing is necessary... I mean I'm not a Golden Sun fan but geez... I think there's some pretty harsh mud slinging happening right now... any character is iconic to their fans. If Isaac was so irrelevant he wouldn't have a fan base... nor would the series have spawned multiple sequels..

People should be supportive of each other's choices, yes. This isn't a political election.

You know the worse thing that would happen if Banjo-Kazooie got in?

If Sakurai gave them realistic bear & bird noises.

I wouldn't mind it too much, given that their original VAs wouldn't be easy to access anymore. If anything, it would make them even funnier.

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

People should be supportive of each other's choices, yes. This isn't a political election.



I wouldn't mind it too much, given that their original VAs wouldn't be easy to access anymore. If anything, it would make them even funnier.

Yea hating characters is pointless... I mean why waste the energy. Hating someone else's character doesn't help a favorite character get in... it just makes a fan base look toxic..

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

Isn't yoshi a Gecko ? Also someone should make a video with banjo & kazooie with realistic sounds LOL

He's a dinosaur with a frog tongue, but pretty much the size of a raptor, with Dragon properties at times such as flying and breathing fire.

 

[StormC]

Isn't yoshi a Gecko ? Also someone should make a video with banjo & kazooie with realistic sounds LOL

Already done.

https://twitter.com/sxips/status/1031050657195847680

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Happy 1,800 posts Banjo-Roos! Also sending our love to the Isaac fan base. I say why not both!?

 

[spoilerowl]

The mentality that there are "competing" roster slots exists because, in truth, there are only so few spots left, and not everyone is going to get what they want.

However, given that Banjo is a 3rd-party from a 3D platformer on the N64 and Isaac is a 1st-party from a turn-based RPG on the GBA, I can say with certainty that they have nothing to do with each other's chances. Frankly, they both have a fantastic shot of getting in. So instead of ****-measuring sales figures from two decades ago, let's agree that while we all have our wants and desires for characters, we shouldn't let said desires cloud our judgment on other characters. It's a tense few months for fans of any character, no need to make it worse.

Moving on back to Banjo, to the realistic animal noise point, I can actually see that happening unfortunately. I would be disappointed, but have grown used to DK, Diddy, and Bowser already so I'd learn to live with it.

 

[StormC]

Banjo and Kazooie's voices are so iconic and Microsoft/Rare probably wouldn't let Sakurai mess with it. I'm sure they'll be fine.

 

[Organization XIII]

If Banjo doesn't GUH-HUH is it even Banjo

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

It doesn't feel too out of place with Donkey and Diddy Kong in my opinion since they still mostly still act like primates, Banjo-Kazooie feel more refined even though they are animals too. They are in a similar spot like Yoshi, anything elses other than their actual voices would look off.

 

[Russell_SSB]

For the ex-Nintendo duo, I support these two!

 

[shellshocker18]

I feel like with DLC "competing for slots" doesn't exist anymore. Sure competing for the base roster but who really cares. Like somebody who is disapointed Banjo isn't in the main game is going to still be pouting if they are DLC. And Sakurai has said in interviews that DLC is great for keeping the game fresh (and making 10s of millions of dollars), so really there are potentially 15 or more character slots left. The odds of this game not having tons of fan favorites as DLC is 0. I think Sakurai realizes this is a lot of characters last or only chance so I think he'll go a long ways to please everyone now, future of the Smash series be damned.

 

[Nazyrus]

Character bashing? I thought that was what Reddit and 4chan do… we're not them, we're better than that guys.

You know the worse thing that would happen if Banjo-Kazooie got in?

If Sakurai gave them realistic bear & bird noises.

Thank god Sakurai always makes characters loyal to their original content then.

 

[JonSmash]

I feel like banjo would sound like himself but maybe smash attacks can have realistic sounds ?

 

[TheAnvil]

People should be supportive of each other's choices, yes. This isn't a political election.

This also isn't charity, I wouldn't support characters who I don't feel would be fun additions to the cast simply because people jumped on their bandwagon. There's no hive mind, people are completely free to disagree with the idea of my favorites entering Smash just as I am with theirs. Debating is half the fun anyway.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

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[Dixie Kong]

I just don't think it's a good idea to come into another character's thread and say your most wanted is more popular.
And I find the idea of Banjo Kazooie using realistic animal noises hilarious.

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

Let's not start a feud between Isaac and Banjo. We both are in similar situations with our favorite franchises being dormant and an important part to the system they released on being the GBA and the N64 and seeing the unique potential that both characters have. If one or the other gets in we should support each other

 

[Organization XIII]

I just don't think it's a good idea to come into another character's thread and say your most wanted is more popular.
And I find the idea of Banjo Kazooie using realistic animal noises hilarious.

No one was actually saying Banjo was less popular another user was discounting Isaac's popularity which is what sparked the debate. Someone did bring up GS1 sold more than Tooie but that was really to illustrate that the user in question's assertion that GS flopped was wrong.

 

[N3ON]

According to wikipedia's cited sales figures, GS sold around 1.1m (740 in US and 338 in Japan).

That'd be more useful if those were the only two regions on earth.

 

[Nazyrus]

I've thought about making this as a way of expressing my feelings of Banjo & Kazooie in Smash for a while now, but finally made it. I find it to be a fitting tribute.

Dude I just thought of something… Imagine the rest of newcomers are revealed (meaning Banjo would be our last reveal) and once they all fill the spaces in the artwork… the artwork becomes a puzzle like that picture and crumbles down, then the CGI trailer begins for Banjo… It would be such an amazing segway to his CGI trailer reveal…

 

[Organization XIII]

Dude I just thought of something… Imagine the rest of newcomers are revealed (meaning Banjo would be our last reveal) and once they all fill the spaces in the artwork… the artwork becomes a puzzle like that picture and crumbles down, then the CGI trailer begins for Banjo… It would be such an amazing segway to his CGI trailer reveal…

That's actually pretty genius