Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[AwesomeCauliflower68]

I'd predict a Conker Assist trophy if Banjo is playable. He could keep it pretty tame with the frying pan and slingshot and it'd just be awesome to have Diddy, Banjo and Conker together again on a Nintendo system.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I want to hear it come from the fans: what do you think Banjo’s chances are? I give them a 40%

I'd probably give them around a 55%-60% right now.

Mainly because of the fact Vergeben said there's going to be Minecraft content in the game. It makes me suspicious that the bear and bird could be waiting in the wings.

 

[Paint_B]

If Banjo is in Ultimate, I think they'll stick with Banjo and Kazooie ATs. I feel characters like Grunty or Mumbo have a higher chance of becoming ATs for the duo.

 

[Paint_B]

I suspect that they're in as promotion for a new Banjo game in the works.

Phil Spencer knows Smash is a great advertisement for any franchise. It's a smart move.

Also with Crash and Mario dominating the 3D platforming market Banjo has a huge chance to comeback.

 

[Nameless Kot]

I’m too curious on who would appear on their reveal trailer....as well as who dies.

My idea of their trailer is that it starts with a hint of collecting gold treasure. *wink wink*

We first see Mario jumping and grabbing his coins, then Sonic running towards his rings and it comically cuts to a giant deep hole where Wario is digging for gold being his usual greedy self until he finally hits something that’s glowing.

He picks it up which we see a familiar golden jigsaw piece which cues the Jiggy jingle.

As the Banjo Kazooie theme slowly starts to play, Wario gets up chanting how rich he is until he hears a noise in a nearby bush.

Two pairs of blue and green googly eyes appear making a “Guh-huh” and “Bree” sound until they fly out and zoom into the camera revealing Banjo-Kazooie!

Wario taunts them yelling “finders-keepers!” running away with the Jiggy until he comically fell to his “death” in the massive hole he dug leaving nothing but his hat. (Similar to Ridley holding Mario’s remaining hat.)

The bear and bird collect the Jiggy from falling as well.

*cue gameplay footage with Banjo Kazooie remix playing in the background*

The trailer ends exactly like 1:22, but with the Smash logo instead.

What do you think?

I would honestly cry if there was a trailer where we didn't know what the hell is happening but then we see a jiggy and that music starts playing before the big reveal.

If Banjo is in Ultimate, I think they'll stick with Banjo and Kazooie ATs. I feel characters like Grunty or Mumbo have a higher chance of becoming ATs for the duo.

I share the same thought, as awesome as it would be to see Conker drunk peeing on other fighters, slashing them with a chainsaw or throwing huge toilet papers, I believe they will narrow it to just BK characters
I think Mumbo would be a great assist with Gruntilda being either a stage Hazard with her rhymes or a boss in a potential adventure/story mode. Heck she could appear as both like Dracula.

Changing subject. Which alts would you give the duo?
I don't really care about the different color alts but i want one where Kazooie is in her dragon form.
Also speaking of alts would you prefer Gruntilda to be represented in her fleshy or bony form. Personally I prefer the Skelly Gruntilda she looks more badass and menacing to me (Her killing Bottles traumatized me as a child).

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

I think Banjo is extremely likely.. I'm not going to put a percent on it because it's hard to do that but I think Banjo has a lot going for him.

Has a close history with Nintendo was the main character of one of the best selling 64 games

Was atleast top 5 on the ballot in the US and had to be top 5 in Japan.

Microsoft and Nintendo have been very friendly lately, hell Rare Tweeted the K. Rool reveal trailer!

Phil Spencer is very open to the idea of Banjo in Smash and voiced this during the ballot.

Shovel Knight got in as an Assist but still... this shows theyre REALLY pulling in ballot voted characters for Ultimate. A western indie character getting in at all is just crazy.. and I can't imagine a huge 3rd party like Banjo being ignored unless Microsoft refused the rights which I doubt given the above mentioned reason.

As strange a reason as this may sound.. K. Rools Final Smash make's me feel like Banjo is even more likely.. literally taken right out of DK64 and the attention to detail is beautiful.. and this isn't the only highlight in Smash from the 64 era, Ganondorf's design taken from OoT as is his Final Smash, I think Sakurai can see the nostalgia is strong for the N64 era and I think that helps Banjo even more.


Overall I find it hard for Sakurai to ignore the biggest 3rd party request by far.

 

[Talazar]

If it hasn't been done yet put me on the support list as well.
Also I can't really put a percentage on if they get in or not but I'll say that they have the best chance they've ever had before.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Welcome to the crew new Banjo-Roos!

 

[Hodin]

I honestly think we will get Banjo and Skull kid. This would help promote N64 mini. I can see OOT and Donkey Kong 64 being on the mini with MM+BK.

 

[Dixie Kong]

I honestly think we will get Banjo and Skull kid. This would help promote N64 mini. I can see OOT and Donkey Kong 64 being on the mini with MM+BK.

I would hope Banjo Tooie And especially Diddy Kong Racing could then be on there also!

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

I would hope Banjo Tooie And especially Diddy Kong Racing could then be on there also!

I would love Conker's Bad Fur Day in there too, that game had awesome multiplayer (Deathmatch, Heist, War and Raptor Mode) but I bet Nintendo would like to pretend that game didn't exist and not be associated with it.

 

[Ultinarok]

I will throw in my support. I greatly enjoyed both Banjo games when I was younger and Diddy Kong Racing was one of my favorite N64 games. Although I was a Timber/Tip-Tup guy myself. Regardless, I've always felt BK was deserving.

The elephant in the room is the obvious elephant in the room. Nintendo's competitor, blah blah. It really puts his support in a weird spot, because I feel like he is actively one of the most supported characters, but he's also the one with the most passive overall audience because many of his supporters have relented that Microsoft will hold him prisoner forever. Of course, nothing is impossible.

 

[Hobnail Boot]

I know fans look at it like "he is owned by a competitor," but do Nintendo and Microsoft view it that way? Just a thought... They have been pretty friendly lately for "competitors."

I'm 100% on board with Banjo in Smash. Not just because it would fulfill a dream, but because it would spark some life into the franchise. Time will tell but I'm optimistic.

 

[Ultinarok]

I know fans look at it like "he is owned by a competitor," but do Nintendo and Microsoft view it that way? Just a thought... They have been pretty friendly lately for "competitors."

I'm 100% on board with Banjo in Smash. Not just because it would fulfill a dream, but because it would spark some life into the franchise. Time will tell but I'm optimistic.

The only thing that can save Banjo from the fiery, imprisoning depths of Microsoft-strangled Rareware is an appearance in Smash.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Banjo’s biggest hurdle is the stage issue. If any new stages get revealed, I’d bump up his chances by 10%

 

[Jetsurge]

After Ridley and K. Rool being revealed so early and the rumored Minecraft content being very similar to what Monster Hunter got I think Sakurai could be saving Banjo and Kazooie for one final hype reveal.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Any news today crew?

 

[MetroLSD]

Any news today crew?

Why would there be? Am i missing something?

 

[Cap'n Jack]

No, just trying to keep up the Banjo talk

 

[Buzzwole]

After Ridley and K. Rool being revealed so early and the rumored Minecraft content being very similar to what Monster Hunter got I think Sakurai could be saving Banjo and Kazooie for one final hype reveal.

I still think the final reveal is gonna be Geno. It just feels right to have one of the most long-standing fan demanded characters be the final reveal for Ultimate.

Banjo is definitely my most wanted character though, so here's to hoping we see him.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

It takes 2 to tango and Microsoft is game so the ball is in Nintendo's court so they got a 50/50 shot at making the roster, Phil Spencer has already given his ok several times, 3 times on social media and a 4th time In an article I found about working with Nintendo he said and I quote " I know I get questions all the time on would I ever like to see Banjo in Super Smash Bros. and I’m, like, “yes, I would do that in a second”. And certain people think I’m saying that as some sort of PR answer and I’m, like, why wouldn’t you?" Luckily Microsoft Corp and Nintendo of America are both in Redmond, Washington so while Japan likely gets the final say, hopefully that makes things more approachable and easier.

 

[TheAnvil]

I'm completely 50/50 on whether they make it.

I did a twitter thread basically outlining why I think Sakurai is the only thing standing in the way of Banjo being in Smash. It's all up to him.
https://twitter.com/MLFoxwell/status/1028762171352784896

 

[Cap'n Jack]

When was that article posted?

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

When was that article posted?

It was a while back in November 2016: https://www.ausgamers.com/news/read...FjAFegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw3ZcSik7E2fciQczo8p_C4L

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I would love Conker's Bad Fur Day in there too, that game had awesome multiplayer (Deathmatch, Heist, War and Raptor Mode) but I bet Nintendo would like to pretend that game didn't exist and not be associated with it.

For what it's worth, the Nintendo Power crew apologized for BFD's omission from the magazine in its final issue. Besides, it still belongs to Rare, so almost anything they made for the N64 would be blocked by rights issues.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

The posting of that article has me worried as Phil seems to imply he was not approached yet as of that article

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

For what it's worth, the Nintendo Power crew apologized for BFD's omission from the magazine in its final issue. Besides, it still belongs to Rare, so almost anything they made for the N64 would be blocked by rights issues.

I'm aware the of the whole rights issue ,but if I'm not mistaken Rare had to publish the game themselves seeing how Nintendo didn't want anything to do with it, And THQ at the time help distribute it in Europe because of that. Anyways But I really hope Nintendo can work deal with Microsoft for some Rareware titles because while it's still possible to make a solid N64 Classic without them, it would still be a, decimated and neutered lineup of games.

 

[Dixie Kong]

I now am hoping for Banjo for DLC, better to not keep hopes up and be surprised.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

The posting of that article has me worried as Phil seems to imply he was not approached yet as of that article

I wouldn't worry that much about it, He has to stay neutral about it so he doesn't break an NDA if it is in the works.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

I now am hoping for Banjo for DLC, better to not keep hopes up and be surprised.

I would absolutely love and rather have them be in the base roster instead so they can get more exposure ,But I wouldn't mind DLC too just as long as they get in and This is just a guess ,But I imagine Nintendo would rather have them be DLC so Microsoft doesn't get royalties for every copy of the game sold and only get a cut from how many players bought the DLC, that's assuming if how the business side of the deal would work.

 

[TheAnvil]

I'd be fine with Banjo as DLC, but the main reason I'd want them on the base game is so they'd have a wonderful trailer.

 

[Deleted member]

I'd be fine with Banjo as DLC, but the main reason I'd want them on the base game is so they'd have a wonderful trailer.

Exactly.

When i saw Simon's trailer, i was so pumped by all the attention to detail regarding all the monsters appearing there. That trailer would have not happened had Simon been DLC.

I want Banjo to have the same treatment.

 

[spoilerowl]

Yeah the DLC trailers, while they could still bring the hype, were dramatically lower-budget than the base roster ones, and it shows. They were all exclusively gameplay, except for the Corrin one which just reused the Fates cutscene.

Royalties is a decent point, but they're already paying royalties to Sega, Capcom, Namco, Square-Enix, and Konami so I doubt Microsoft/Rare would be a deal-breaker.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

I'd be fine with Banjo as DLC, but the main reason I'd want them on the base game is so they'd have a wonderful trailer.

Can you imagine a CGI trailer of them reuniting with Mario, Donkey and Diddy Kong ? Not to mention It would be the first time the duo would be interacting with Donkey Kong and Mario, Something you'd think would of already happen back then. I would also probably name the title of the trailer along the lines of "An Old Friends Return" or better yet "A Rare Reunion".

 

[StormC]

I want to hear it come from the fans: what do you think Banjo’s chances are? I give them a 40%

Around 50%, 60% if I'm feeling really optimistic. IMO, his only competition for the megaton last reveal is Geno. Verge so far has not been proven wrong and Minecraft content in Smash would almost assuredly come with Banjo. But obviously such a thing would be unprecedented so it's hard to predict.

Crazy to think how much the public consensus has changed on Banjo's chances since last week.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

Yeah the DLC trailers, while they could still bring the hype, were dramatically lower-budget than the base roster ones, and it shows. They were all exclusively gameplay, except for the Corrin one which just reused the Fates cutscene.

Royalties is a decent point, but they're already paying royalties to Sega, Capcom, Namco, Square-Enix, and Konami so I doubt Microsoft/Rare would be a deal-breaker.

Part of me thinks they don't mind much with all the big Japanese Publishers since they release games on Nintendo's consoles and have been collaborating with them for decades, Plus the most iconic video game characters in gaming are Japanese so they were inevitably gonna have to give a cut to all them if a lot of those 3rd party characters were going to return or debut in Smash. Sure they have history with Rare ,but Microsoft ? I don't really know, I guess at the end of the day business is business ,but I would also think Nintendo has more biase working towards their fellow country game companies.

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

Conspiracy time... so this past June Rare had tweeted about Banjos 20th anniversary. They had a few little announcements here and there a lot of it about merchandise. One thing they had teased was a Totaku figure of Banjo & Kazooie coming. Totaku figures are sort of Amiibo copycats but without the game integration. They showed a silouette and nothing else. The said mode info would be coming soon but it's been quite since.

My theory is that this Banjo design is different because it's going to be the new modern Banjo design. I think it's not being shown yet because there's another announcement that will coincide with it. I think whatever Banjo looks like will be the design used in Smash and Rare/Microsoft has Totaku holding off on a reveal because they want Smash to be the thing that reveals his updated design.

You may be thinking.. but wait! Why would a third party figure company wait to reveal anything when it has nothing to do with them. MS could have easily made the stipulations of giving them the Banjo license that they can only reveal the figure when they get the go ahead from MS. Which they won't get until he's revealed for Super Smash Bros.

I know Sakurai designs characters himself, but it's not crazy to assume he redesigned Banjo and then MS and Rare may borrow elements of the redesign to use from now on. You can clearly see from the shadow that Banjo is not entirely his original look or the Nutz and Boltz one either. His nose is more square like Nutz and Boltz but his body and hair on his head seem more classic. It's design choices I could see being done for Smash. After all I'm sure Rare had a lot of input on what Banjo should look like if he got into Smash.

My main reason for thinking this way is why else hide the figure. Why not just reveal him on the 20th and get it over with. Cleary the design is final since your showing the figures silouette. There's more to it and I feel like it COULD do with Smash Bros.


Another fun fact is when Banjo had his 20th people on Twitter asked if he was going to be in Smash and Rare said "that wouldnt be our announcement to make" they shared the K. Rool reveal trailer saying how cool it was to see one of their past creations get in Smash. I'm feeling like we may see something special for the Bear and Bird soon.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

I would not like the square nose, but I’d take it if it meant his inclusion

 

[JamesDNaux]

There's nothing mysterious about that silhouette, it's not a redesign, it's based on an old render.

That's not Banjo's nose, it's Kazooie's head feathers.

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

I wouldn't either... but I was also was not in favor of the Paon K. Rool until I saw his design in Smash and fell in love with it.. it took the Paon and Rare designs fused them together and made a coherent redesign to please classic and modern K. Rool fans. I could see Banjo getting the same treatment, having his current and classic design fused together into one new one. To please old and new fans, not to mention since Viva Pinata this is the style Rare goes with now. Look at Sea of Thieves, this anguler design is Rares signature thing now and Nintendo wanted Banjo they probably had to meet in the middle, especially considering he's a character MS will probably want to pursue marketing more post Smash