Banjo-Kazooie - Jet Force Blasting to DLC

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Alright. What's people's opinion on this whole Incenaroar/Ken thing?
Personally, on their own, I don't really care; I don't care much for Echo Fighters, and while I do like Incineroar, I don't recall him being incredibly popular among Pokemon fans, and considering Sun and Moon was released several months after the Ballot's initial announcement, I don't think he'd have a big showing on it. I bring these two factors up because, like I've said before, Smash Ultimate's newcomer roster seems based on Ballot results/general popularity, which are two factors that I don't think apply to Incineroar; I think people are only saying he's a "lock" because of Verge as well as the fact that because there's been a new Pokemon fighter in every Smash game until now. While that is true, the way Ultimate's been handling its roster feels very different from the previous games, so I feel it's not going to be following previous trends; instead, it seems to be focusing exclusively on pleasing fans. Also, I feel another factor influencing this is that stupid "Box Theory".

And after all that, while I wouldn't mind them in, I don't want them to be the final reveals for the game; that would probably be even more underwhelming for me than Corrin and Bayonetta (two characters that I didn't know anything about during their reveal) being the final characters for Smash 4. That being said, I'm kind of hoping that, if there IS a reveal coming next week, that those two are the ones revealed...and they AREN'T stated to be the last fighters, so that "Box Theory" (and by extension "Card Theory") can be put to rest once and for all.
 
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As big as a Pokemon fan I am and while I did enjoy Pokemon Moon and the Alola region , The starters and their evolutions as a whole were my least favorite from the series, Rowlett, Litten and Popplio designs were solid, But wasn't a fan of their evolutions as a whole, I had a Lv 45 Popplio by the end of Pokemon Moon because of that and Mostly relied on my Toucannon, Togedemaru and Alolan Sandslash to carry my team most of the game.

Not going to complain if we do get Incineroar I can take him or leave him since the franchise already has plenty of representation in Smash ,Also Greninja was one of my mains in Smash Wii U and plan to keep it that way in Ultimate. Though I would have loved see Togedemaru as a playable fighter since he was my favorite Gen 7 Pokemon.(Yes I know he's a Poke Ball Assist)
 
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why can't the company that makes those high qulity pokemon plushies make a banjo kazooie plush :/ awww well at least its cute, but don't seam like its a good sign for his chances in smash, the whole there hiding his new design for smash IS OUT THE WINDOW !
 
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My eyes !!! My Beautiful eyes !!!

I really hope this is not the one we have been waiting for, Don't like the design of these plushies, They try way too hard to be cute, I also hate how the dimensions of the head are the shape of a generic teddy bear and nothing shaped like Banjo's head.
 
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Rare has really ****ed up this 20th anniversary. Last time we got a game (a bad one, albeit), now we're getting merch and an interview supposedly about Banjo & Kazooie that was just to shill Sea of Thieves.

Makes me reeeeeeally hoping they held back due to something else special happening this year...
 

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My eyes !!! My Beautiful eyes !!!

I really hope this is not the one we have been waiting for, Don't like the design of these plushies, They try way too hard to be cute, I also hate how the dimensions of the head are the shape of a generic teddy bear and nothing shaped like Banjo's head.
Banjo does look like a generic teddy bear, a cute teddy bear but not the Banjo face we all know and love. And Kazooie, she just looks bad. From the cheap looking wings to her beak and the feathers on her head.
 

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I believe this is the official one Nintendo released back in 1998 and are pretty rare and expensive now. I want one just like this ,But improved on and modernized with their classic game look like Nintendo's and Pokemon's line of Plushies.
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...I actually have one of those... The backpack straps are broken, though.
 
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I believe this is the official one Nintendo released back in 1998 and are pretty rare and expensive now. I want one just like this ,But improved on and modernized with their classic game look like Nintendo's and Pokemon's line of Plushies.
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Still got mine also but my dog got ahold of kazooie. So she became detached. I ended up making legs+tail feathers for her to make up with the forced separation. That way when she was out of the pack it didn’t look bad.
 
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Still got mine also but my dog got ahold of kazooie. So she became detached. I ended up making legs+tail feathers for her to make up with the forced separation. That way when she was out of the pack it didn’t look bad.
Kazooie was probably talking a lot smack to to your dog and then finally snapped and then was like "All right you asked for it !!!"
 
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Welp, ive seen worse, but Im gonna stick with the Totaku figure for now.

And yknow, hopefully the Smash amiibo.
Seriously, Nintendo--you want money, I GOT IT. I never wanted amiibos as I never saw the point, but the prospect of a Banjo & Kazooie one actually made me think otherwise. And then I can't just get one, I need Mario, Link, Pokemon Trainer, Megaman, Pacman, etc. If Nintendo wants to take all my money, I got it ready.
 
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Wait. Was that the new plush or the old plush? What does the new plushie look like?
The one I posted earlier is the official one Nintendo released back in '98, I was just saying that when they release the new plush we are expecting, I want them to make it look just like this one ,But with improvements and more along the lines of Nintendo's and Pokemon's line of Plushies.
 
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The one I posted earlier is the official one Nintendo released back in '98, I was just saying that when they release the new plush we are expecting, I want them to make it look just like this one ,But with improvements and more along the lines of Nintendo's and Pokemon's line of Plushies.
Ah! see.

I have a feeling it'll look much more chibi than Banjo-Kazooie's actual look. Which I am okay with.

When was the last time Microsoft and Phil said anything about Banjo being in Smash?
 
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I actually think the new plush is adorable. I want it. Beats the pants off the old ugly plush. I don't think you could really do a game-accurate Banjo doll that looks any good tbh.
I'm the opposite on this, I hate how it goes for that chibi funko pop collectable look that every brand is trying to imitate these days and it looks like a generic teddy bear with a Banjo skin on it not to mention that tiny snout, Banjo's snout is supposed to be long with a big goofy nose and Kazooie looks janky with her cheap flat wings.

At least the '98 original one is faithful to their character renders and game design and actually looks pretty good considering it's 20 years old and plushie designs have come a long way and are much better made today to look how they are suppose to look.

Banjo-Kazooie is practically a Nintendo character and if Nintendo and Pokemon can make good looking plushies for most of their cast I don't see why the same can't be said for Banjo-Kazooie, Their designs are pretty simple and not overly complex.

Call me old school, But I like my plushies to look simple and faithful to the character's design and in game look.
 
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How do you think Banjo-Kazooie would look in Ultimate?
Well, These are the 3 most common renders (Especially the 1st one) we have seen that gives us an idea of what they can look like.

I also think looking at Donkey and Diddy Kong will give us an idea what they can possibly look in game as well, seeing how they also have Brown Fur, Beige skin and have a similar art style since (No Surprise) they were all created by Rare.
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Well, These are the 3 most common renders (Especially the 1st one) we have seen that gives us an idea of what they can look like.

I also think looking at Donkey and Diddy Kong will give us an idea what they can possibly look in game as well, seeing how they also have Brown Fur, Beige skin and have a similar art style since (No Surprise) they were all created by Rare.
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...Why does Banjo have flat teeth?!? He's a bear!!!
 
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Second render I think it's the best one yet
I agree, I still think the first one looks good too, But once I ran into the 2nd one I knew that was the best looking one, The Kazooie render looks better on the 2nd one too, Something about Banjo and especially Kazooie's eyes look a little off on the 1st one like their too big or something compared to the 2nd one. The 3rd render looks ok, But wasn't made as well as the other 2 and therefore is the weakest of the bunch.
 
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Nope. Third one is the best.
I really like the style of the third one the best since it really captures the original Banjo and Kazooie design but updated. However, it looks a little bit too much like a painting in some respects.
Second seems like a mixture of their N64 and XBOX360 designs. I also like the texturing that makes it look more like a render. But I don't really like Nuts and Bolts designs at all and this one takes too much from those designs for me to clearly call it better.
The first one is honestly off model. The design looks like an off brand version of the characters. Not a fan of the texture work either.
 
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He doesn't always get it right, but he has done a pretty good job so far. I'm just curious if he will do it right for them.

How would you even describe their personalities? Banjo is laid back while Kazooie is a sassy ***.
Pretty much, Banjo is lazy and laidback, But also kind, good natured and always wants to do the right thing.

Kazooie is loud, rude, snarky and an as***** in the most hilarious way and doesn't take sh*t from anyone, Even from bigger enemies and bosses.

I also like how Kazooie is likely the one to start beef with other bosses or enemies and drags Banjo into the fight.
 
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How do you think Banjo-Kazooie would look in Ultimate?
If Banjo & Kazooie are in Ultimate, I would think Sakurai chose to use their N64 design and Microsoft/Rare have been using their N64 design in their anniversary merch.


My guess it would be similar to this, with the type of fur Donkey Kong/Diddy have. With a character like Banjo & Kazooie, there's not much need to have artistic license--I'd assume it would be an HD version of their original models, with some flourishes with their fur and feathers.
 
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We can agree in that: Kazooie's feathers in her head is an improvement in her design.

And talking about that little figurine, I already pre-ordered one. Not perfect, but its about an amiibo size and seeing it from a distance could be enough. If they are not in Smash and then, amiibo, it could be one of the very few merchandise of them which I could get.
 
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Well, These are the 3 most common renders (Especially the 1st one) we have seen that gives us an idea of what they can look like.

I also think looking at Donkey and Diddy Kong will give us an idea what they can possibly look in game as well, seeing how they also have Brown Fur, Beige skin and have a similar art style since (No Surprise) they were all created by Rare.
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I really hope we get something like that 2nd render it's perfect
 
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