Cap'n Jack
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Never mind then carry onActually, that music post IS on the site; it just hasn't appeared on the front page for some reason. When you go to the music section, it's there to listen to.
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Never mind then carry onActually, that music post IS on the site; it just hasn't appeared on the front page for some reason. When you go to the music section, it's there to listen to.
Second is more refined and fresh, but the third one is my favourite, screams more "Rare" to me with the googly eyes and goofy expressions.Well, These are the 3 most common renders (Especially the 1st one) we have seen that gives us an idea of what they can look like.
I also think looking at Donkey and Diddy Kong will give us an idea what they can possibly look in game as well, seeing how they also have Brown Fur, Beige skin and have a similar art style since (No Surprise) they were all created by Rare.
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Same here, While I'm going to sound biase since I'm a fan of Mario and Pokemon and not fire emblem, it's kind of annoying to see it's representation on par with Nintendo's biggest 1-2 punch, Mario and Pokemon leading the way for Smash makes sense because they are the biggest, most popular, best selling and iconic franchises in Nintendo's arsenal, While Fire Emblem has gained popularity over the years, it's not even in the same level of the Nintendo's top 2.I'm just saying. Fire Emblem seems to get a LOT of special treatment in this series. I just want Banjo-Kazooie in. If they get in, I'll never say another bad thing about Fire Emblem. I'm just sick of it constantly being promoted and shoved in my face.
That's my whole problem with Fire Emblem too. When did Fire Emblem gain the status of being on par with the likes of Mario, the Legend of Zelda, and Pokemon? All three of those series I get why their popular. I love them all! They were game changers (heh, no pun intended) in every generation they were in, they achieved worldwide popularity in their debuts, and their stories and concepts were universally simple and easy to understand and grasp. I have no damn clue what Fire Emblem is about. And I've tried, honestly I have, to look and see what makes people like the games. And the only answer I've managed to understand is it's a waifu simulator. Cuz the gameplay itself looks SUPER boring and repetitive. Run around a chessboard style map with red and blue areas, encounter bad guys, undergo a repetitive cutscene where if you're the stronger one, you'll plow right through them. That's my basic understanding of Fire Emblem in general. The 'story' is what I think grabs people, and by story, I mean the relationships you make with characters like Lucina or Camilla or whoever the **** is hot. The fact that this series has more reps than freaking Legend of Zelda is extremely annoying. I don't care if two of the seven reps are Echo Fighters, its still super annoying. But give me Banjo-Kazooie in this game and I will relent on my hate for this series.Same here, While I am a fan of Mario and Pokemon, I'm not a fan of fire emblem and it's kind of annoying to see it's representation on par with Nintendo's biggest 1-2 punch, Mario and Pokemon leading the way for Smash makes sense because they are the biggest, most popular, best selling and iconic franchises in Nintendo's arsenal, While Fire Emblem has gained popularity over the years, it's not even in the same level of the Nintendo's top 2.
Side note: While I'm not really complaining now because we already got K. Rool and I'm pretty satisfied even though it took forever, But It always irritated me to see an iconic franchise like Donkey Kong (which is without a doubt a top 5 Nintendo franchise) barely get any recognition in Smash until now and get casted aside while fire emblem got more fighters and exposure.
You. I like you. You have good taste.I do not mind Fire Emblem, it has a strong history with Nintendo, but it is nice to see other series representation get fleshed out, like Animal Crossing and obviously DK. It seems like most of the annoyance/apathy towards FE in Smash stems from the fact that the fighters are similar in stature and build, plus the amount of clones. I wouldn't be surprised to see FE get another newcomer to be honest and wouldn't be against it if the newcomer can stand out from the crowd, so to speak.
Banjo, Dixie, Rayman, etc first though!
If so, I want this...
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Tan Shorts? Shoes? Uhhhhhhh.Concept art for Banjo Cartoon that never got the green light. http://www.nerdspan.com/concept-art-for-proposed-banjo-kazooie-cartoon-revealed/
Same honestly, I remember watching the final Smash direct back in winter of 2015 and finding out that Corrin (yet another FE character) was announced, I was so unbelievably angry, like I almost wanted to stop watching the Direct I was so angry. Don't get me wrong At this point I also had my hopes up WAYYYY too high for Banjo and when I saw Bayonetta as the final newcomer I literally stopped watching the direct and just sat in Anger the rest of the night.But give me Banjo-Kazooie in this game and I will relent on my hate for this series.
Well Zelda is treated even worse, i'd say. And i'd consider it Nintendos 2nd biggest IP. Still got the same three chars. Ganon as a Falcon clone, Zelda, Zelda in disguise and Link, three of them.Same here, While I'm going to sound biase since I'm a fan of Mario and Pokemon and not fire emblem, it's kind of annoying to see it's representation on par with Nintendo's biggest 1-2 punch, Mario and Pokemon leading the way for Smash makes sense because they are the biggest, most popular, best selling and iconic franchises in Nintendo's arsenal, While Fire Emblem has gained popularity over the years, it's not even in the same level of the Nintendo's top 2.
Side note: While I'm not really complaining now because we already got K. Rool and I'm pretty satisfied even though it took forever, But It always irritated me to see an iconic franchise like Donkey Kong (which is without a doubt a top 5 Nintendo franchise) barely get any recognition in Smash until now and get casted aside while fire emblem got more fighters and exposure.
New FE is different than the older ones. The GBA Games, the Ike Games... that's where deep Stirys were told. Especially Ikes Games with their Racism Theme.That's my whole problem with Fire Emblem too. When did Fire Emblem gain the status of being on par with the likes of Mario, the Legend of Zelda, and Pokemon? All three of those series I get why their popular. I love them all! They were game changers (heh, no pun intended) in every generation they were in, they achieved worldwide popularity in their debuts, and their stories and concepts were universally simple and easy to understand and grasp. I have no damn clue what Fire Emblem is about. And I've tried, honestly I have, to look and see what makes people like the games. And the only answer I've managed to understand is it's a waifu simulator. Cuz the gameplay itself looks SUPER boring and repetitive. Run around a chessboard style map with red and blue areas, encounter bad guys, undergo a repetitive cutscene where if you're the stronger one, you'll plow right through them. That's my basic understanding of Fire Emblem in general. The 'story' is what I think grabs people, and by story, I mean the relationships you make with characters like Lucina or Camilla or whoever the **** is hot. The fact that this series has more reps than freaking Legend of Zelda is extremely annoying. I don't care if two of the seven reps are Echo Fighters, its still super annoying. But give me Banjo-Kazooie in this game and I will relent on my hate for this series.
Thank you for explaining! I mainly want to know what makes those games so special so I can understand it better.Well Zelda is treated even worse, i'd say. And i'd consider it Nintendos 2nd biggest IP. Still got the same three chars. Ganon as a Falcon clone, Zelda, Zelda in disguise and Link, three of them.
New FE is different than the older ones. The GBA Games, the Ike Games... that's where deep Stirys were told. Especially Ikes Games with their Racism Theme.
Also in terms of Gameplay, those Games were much harder than the newer ones. You really had to think over each step you're about to make twice.
But yeah i agree that it is overrepresented in Smash.
That roster would make me the happiest person in the world. Having one of my favorite franchises get a new rep with Dee and two of my favorite gaming franchises in general getting in with banjo and chief would be so awesomehttp://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/434679174
New leak involving Banjo kazooie and someone else... This time they even have audio proof for the latter.
I don't I mean these 2 would mother****ing break the internet harder than Cloud, I want to believe but I think we'll just wait and see if his "smash direct in 2 weeks" leak is true
I think that leak is fake.http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/434679174
New leak involving Banjo kazooie and someone else... This time they even have audio proof for the latter.
I don't I mean these 2 would mother****ing break the internet harder than Cloud, I want to believe but I think we'll just wait and see if his "smash direct in 2 weeks" leak is true
I would still rank Pokemon 2nd and Zelda a distant 3rd, Pokemon is a phenomenon and an absolute juggernaut of a video game franchise and can stand toe to toe with Mario sales wise in double digit millions. While Zelda is no slouch itself, But considering it got a 10 year start before Pokemon existed, Pokemon absolutely stomps on Zelda not just sales wise as franchise (about 3:1 ratio), But Pokemon is also the "Largest media franchise in the world" with the anime, movies, and merchandise as well such as cards, plushies, toys, clothing etc.Well Zelda is treated even worse, i'd say. And i'd consider it Nintendos 2nd biggest IP. Still got the same three chars. Ganon as a Falcon clone, Zelda, Zelda in disguise and Link, three of them.
New FE is different than the older ones. The GBA Games, the Ike Games... that's where deep Stirys were told. Especially Ikes Games with their Racism Theme.
Also in terms of Gameplay, those Games were much harder than the newer ones. You really had to think over each step you're about to make twice.
But yeah i agree that it is overrepresented in Smash.
SAME!It would be, but that’s a lot.
Still I can’t help but feel a little good when a leak has Banjo.
Screw it, I’ll bite.http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/434679174
New leak involving Banjo kazooie and someone else... This time they even have audio proof for the latter.
I don't I mean these 2 would mother****ing break the internet harder than Cloud, I want to believe but I think we'll just wait and see if his "smash direct in 2 weeks" leak is true
Thanks I hope both get in. Everybody talks about the "trinity", but I feel like if we include all of the characters that have been wanted since Melee, it's more like the Fab 4--Ridley, King K Rool, Geno, and Banjo. I hope all of them get in this time. 2 in, 2 to go.Ahh, I've been looking for this thread. I come from the Geno support thread! While I've never played a Banjo-Kazooie game (ever :0), I would LOVE to see these two make it into Smash, base or DLC! It would make a lot of his fans excited and very happy, and could possibly lead to a revival of the two as Smash does tend to do that time and time again. Y'all have my support, 100%!
The Fab Four! I like it! And very true. Hopefully the trinity gets in and the most people get what they want!Thanks I hope both get in. Everybody talks about the "trinity", but I feel like if we include all of the characters that have been wanted since Melee, it's more like the Fab 4--Ridley, King K Rool, Geno, and Banjo. I hope all of them get in this time. 2 in, 2 to go.
From a perspective of series representation, I don't think Sakurai just looks at characters. I think he looks at items, stages, etc. He probably assumes that Zelda has a lot of stages and other items which makes up for the smaller roster. Zelda series hurts itself because it rarely has characters outside of the three that appear in multiple titles. The surprise to me is no Impa since she would be an easy echo of Sheik and is in a multitude of Zelda titles.Well Zelda is treated even worse, i'd say. And i'd consider it Nintendos 2nd biggest IP. Still got the same three chars. Ganon as a Falcon clone, Zelda, Zelda in disguise and Link, three of them.
New FE is different than the older ones. The GBA Games, the Ike Games... that's where deep Stirys were told. Especially Ikes Games with their Racism Theme.
Also in terms of Gameplay, those Games were much harder than the newer ones. You really had to think over each step you're about to make twice.
But yeah i agree that it is overrepresented in Smash.
Isaac has been in demand since the Melee days too though.Thanks I hope both get in. Everybody talks about the "trinity", but I feel like if we include all of the characters that have been wanted since Melee, it's more like the Fab 4--Ridley, King K Rool, Geno, and Banjo. I hope all of them get in this time. 2 in, 2 to go.
I agree. Isaac's still my main hope for a first party character from a new series--I feel like it shouldn't be just Inkling, and Isaac's at the top. And quite literally topping every character in certain polls. I'd definitely love all three of those being the new "trinity" (but hopefully we don't have to wait another game to add them all).Isaac has been in demand since the Melee days too though.
Isaac, Banjo & Kazooie and Geno feel like the new "trinity" to me in terms of long term fan demand. (and they were top three in the Reddit poll so I think that shows how much people are gunning for them)
I know demand for Banjo & Kazooie has seemed kind of recent but that's because nobody had any hope until that tweet from Phil Spencer. That really lit a fire under people.
Let's call them the Fab Five then! Ridley, King K. Rool, Issac, Geno, & Banjo-Kazooie! We can also go with the Sensational Six with Simon Belmont as well ^^I agree. Isaac's still my main hope for a first party character from a new series--I feel like it shouldn't be just Inkling, and Isaac's at the top. And quite literally topping every character in certain polls. I'd definitely love all three of those being the new "trinity" (but hopefully we don't have to wait another game to add them all).
That makes a bit more sense I guess. Legend of Zelda does have all their stages returning along with a brand new one for Breath of the Wild. Not to mention tons of items, the Heart Container, Bunny Hood, Deku Nut, Fairy Bottle, Gust Bellows, Bombchu, Beetle, and even the Cuccos! As long as the big characters get in before we get yet another Fire Emblem representative, namely Issac, Geno, & Banjo-Kazooie, I'll be happy.From a perspective of series representation, I don't think Sakurai just looks at characters. I think he looks at items, stages, etc. He probably assumes that Zelda has a lot of stages and other items which makes up for the smaller roster. Zelda series hurts itself because it rarely has characters outside of the three that appear in multiple titles. The surprise to me is no Impa since she would be an easy echo of Sheik and is in a multitude of Zelda titles.
I think Sakurai just focuses on how fun and iconic each character is to the game. FE has a lot of characters that are easy to implement in the Smash series.
It would be strange to not have Dixie Kong be in this game. Hopefully she'll make it in and round out the DK roster like Metroid has.Don't forget Dixie Kong she has been wanted as long as banjo & k rool !