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Bandana Dee, the Legend of Dee - Our Star Ally as DeeLC?! (v(- ' ' -)>↑

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Base roster or DLC hope Bandana Dee is in. Support his inclusion in any form.
 

KirbyWorshipper2465

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It also helps that he (B.W.D.) was the ONLY other playable character in that game, so he certainly wasn't at risk of being ignored for someone else in that game.
Although it wouldn't hurt if they announce a port of Rainbow Curse shortly around/after his reveal, too, given that Epic Yarn of all things is having a 3DS remake.
 
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Literally Bandana Dee and Geno are the only newcomer omissions for the base game that would actually surprise me one multiple levels, no joke.
 

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Literally Bandana Dee and Geno are the only newcomer omissions for the base game that would actually surprise me one multiple levels, no joke.
Same with me, but replace Geno with Dixie Kong. For the record, I LOVE Geno and I'd give anything to see him in Smash, but Dixie's had quite a bit going for her for the last couple of years, so to see her AND B.W.D. NOT make it into Ultimate is going to bewilder me like you wouldn't believe.
 

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Literally Bandana Dee and Geno are the only newcomer omissions for the base game that would actually surprise me one multiple levels, no joke.
Same with me, but replace Geno with Dixie Kong. For the record, I LOVE Geno and I'd give anything to see him in Smash, but Dixie's had quite a bit going for her for the last couple of years, so to see her AND B.W.D. NOT make it into Ultimate is going to bewilder me like you wouldn't believe.
I guess for me it's Bandana Dee and Impa. Impa just seems to make a lot of sense in my head. I'm not too well versed when it comes to Zelda, but I believe Impa is one of the few recurring Zelda characters besides the Triforce Wielders. While I do think echo is her biggest shot, I can see her getting some moves of her own if she would be more unique and take stuff from Hyrule Warriors.
 

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Same with me, but replace Geno with Dixie Kong. For the record, I LOVE Geno and I'd give anything to see him in Smash, but Dixie's had quite a bit going for her for the last couple of years, so to see her AND B.W.D. NOT make it into Ultimate is going to bewilder me like you wouldn't believe.
In terms of Echoes, Dixie and (I can’t believe I’m actually saying this but) Shadow would surprise me if they weren’t in just because of how much going in their favor.

In total, Geno, Bandana Dee, Dixie, and Shadow would all surprise me if they weren’t included somehow.
For me, I'd be utterly shocked if Isaac and Dixie don't show up in the base game. Shantae being absent until DLC would be understandable.
I agree with Dixie but not so much with Isaac since his entire franchise is in limbo and he didn’t even appear in Smash 4, I know he has a huge following but if he wasn’t in I wouldn’t have the wind knocked out of me either way. Shantae I’m really conflicted on because a part of me doubts her but then another part of me inside says she’s really likely and I just don’t know for sure.
 

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Man, I'm not sure if I have the patience for DLC. Do any of you remember how long it took for all the characters to come out for Smash4? And what it BandDee is one of the final characters they announce? That could be a whole other year of waiting. No, gotta stay positive. I think I'm going to go play the Ultimate Choice again with BandDee, for like the 17th time.
 

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Man, I'm not sure if I have the patience for DLC. Do any of you remember how long it took for all the characters to come out for Smash4? And what it BandDee is one of the final characters they announce? That could be a whole other year of waiting. No, gotta stay positive. I think I'm going to go play the Ultimate Choice again with BandDee, for like the 17th time.
I'm sure DLC development will be generally faster this time around. Last time they were simultaneously developing the characters and stages for two different games. Not only will they be developing the DLC for only one platform, but I have a feeling Sakurai will try to keep the size of the team similar to what it was pre-launch this time around. After Smash 4's DLC being pretty well-received Sakurai will probably want to do things similarly but just more efficiently this time.

Of course, we should try to stay hopeful for the base game for now. We're at the final stretch at this point so let's stay positive until the last character is revealed.
 

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I'm sure DLC development will be generally faster this time around. Last time they were simultaneously developing the characters and stages for two different games. Not only will they be developing the DLC for only one platform, but I have a feeling Sakurai will try to keep the size of the team similar to what it was pre-launch this time around. After Smash 4's DLC being pretty well-received Sakurai will probably want to do things similarly but just more efficiently this time.

Of course, we should try to stay hopeful for the base game for now. We're at the final stretch at this point so let's stay positive until the last character is revealed.
You know man, you might be right. I sometimes forget that the 3DS Smash was a thing that existed. I'm actually a little excited now. If the developers don't have to worry about messing around with the 3ds, then not only may we get dlc quicker, but we could get more than what the last game had! But yeah, I'll try to stay positive for the base roster.
 

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This is actually my first post on Smashboards, so forgive me if I mess up somehow, but would it be okay if Chandeelure added me to the list of supporters?
 

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Why is this so funny to me.

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This is actually my first post on Smashboards, so forgive me if I mess up somehow, but would it be okay if Chandeelure added me to the list of supporters?
Welcome to Smashboards and the bandana Dee brigade , I'm sure Chandeelure Chandeelure would be more than happy to add you to the support list
 
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Geno and Isaac I hope both get in, them plus Bandana Dee would be some of the only characters left they could add that'd I'd care about.
 

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For me Bandana Dee, Dixie, and Toad/Captain Toad (though this one seems 85% deconfirmed). If I get these 3, Smash Bros. will be "complete" in my eyes. Of course Medusa is also a want for me but she is more like the Chrom and Dark Samus reveal for me where it's "hey cool there here I'll definitely try them out!"

But honestly if we don't get Dixie, Dee, or Captain Toad I can't complain. I did get Inkling, King K. Rool, Wolf (revamped), Ridley, Isabelle, Chrom, and Dark Samus. That alone makes me happy and honestly I feel a little bit greedy/ashamed to still be asking for more...

EDIT: The fact that I'm STILL not on the support list after asking for seems like forever and I have posted MULTIPLE times about it is just...sad... Good thing Birthnote over at the Dixie support thread and BKupa666 over at the K.Rool support thread (when it was still a thing) always seemed to keep on top of things.
 
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You know man, you might be right. I sometimes forget that the 3DS Smash was a thing that existed. I'm actually a little excited now. If the developers don't have to worry about messing around with the 3ds, then not only may we get dlc quicker, but we could get more than what the last game had! But yeah, I'll try to stay positive for the base roster.
Yeah, with any luck it'll be a bit faster than the Star Allies Dream Friends waves.
 

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Yeah, with any luck it'll be a bit faster than the Star Allies Dream Friends waves.
Speaking of which, I'm kinda surprised we haven't had any news on wave 3 as of yet,

I was expecting them (I mean the update itself, not the news) to drop in like november, but if it keeps going at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if we only got them in February.
 
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Why is this so funny to me.

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Seeing that reminds me, I wish that they kept the reddish hue for Bandana Dee instead of making him the tangerine orange that all Waddle Dees are. I thought it was a nice, subtle way to further differentiate him from other Waddle Dees, and also a reference to his debut in Super Star, where all Waddle Dees were red. Ah, well.

On the subject of wanted characters left, now that we got K. Rool, Bandana Dee is really all I need to be completely satisfied, the roster would feel pretty complete to me if he got in. However, I would also be really happy to see Dixie and Geno, and then Shadow and Ken as Echoes. If we got these characters, I'd be over the moon. But like Mariomaniac45213 said, we've got so much great content and fantastic characters already, so even if none of my most wanted characters get in, I really can't be too upset.... Though I can certainly have my fingers crossed for DLC.
 
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Seeing that reminds me, I wish that they kept the reddish hue for Bandana Dee instead of making him the tangerine orange that all Waddle Dees are. I thought it was a nice, subtle way to further differentiate him from other Waddle Dees, and also a reference to his debut in Super Star, where all Waddle Dees were red. Ah, well.

On the subject of wanted characters left, now that we got K. Rool, Bandana Dee is really all I need to be completely satisfied, the roster would feel pretty complete to me if he got in. However, I would also be really happy to see Dixie and Geno, and then Shadow and Ken as Echoes. If we got these characters, I'd be over the moon. But like Mariomaniac45213 said, we've got so much great content and fantastic characters already, so even if none of my most wanted characters get in, I really can't be too upset.... Though I can certainly have my fingers crossed for DLC.
He is still more red than the others in some recent games.

 

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Yeah, I thought 'being red' was one of this signature features. It's why his theme song is about apples. He kinda looks like an apple with a bite taken out of it... (his eyes are even appleseed-shaped!)
 

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I'd like to be on the supporter list as well. The Kirby franchise needs its Player 4.
 

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Havent visited much, but still think BD has good chances. Id think next direct is a pretty good time for him
 

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Public service announcement: If you've been on the thread posting awhile, you're probably on the supporters list. Open up the "Supporters List" spoiler on the OP, hit Ctrl+F, and search for your name in there before asking.
I imagine I am already there but if I am not please add me to the supporters list.
You're on the supporter's list before me, and I've been on here since... at least page 32?
Since you were here before I started posting, and I've been posting for a while (that quote is pre-E3, and I've been here over 50 pages), it's safe to say you're on the supporters list.
 
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Guys, let's all agree that in the unlikely chance BWD doesn't get in, we need to raise awareness for him so he becomes popular and a good choice for DLC.
 

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Guys, let's all agree that in the unlikely chance BWD doesn't get in, we need to raise awareness for him so he becomes popular and a good choice for DLC.
I think Bandana Dee isn't that likely to get in, period, because he's not likely for the base game, and that was his last chance. First, we have many more likely newcomers like Ken, Incineroar, Steve (yes Steve) and a Square Enix rep, that Bandana Dee is unlikely because there are no more slots left.

And then theres the probability that the base game was his last chance, since people hated Bandana Dee ever since Gamexplain released that one video about him being a Hat Goomba. All the hate is gonna, at the very least, gonna take some support away from Bandana Dee due to the fact that people think he's nothing more than a Hat Goomba. It's probably also gonna make Sakurai pay even less attention to a character that he barely considered (if at all) in the first place thanks to his bias against Modern Kirby (and it certainly doesn't help that Marx is a candidate now, who is from one of Sakurai's games).

So as much as I want him to get in, I think Bandana Dee's a losing battle. Hopefully we can do something, though. Maybe try to convince HAL to step in and personally ask Sakurai to put Bandana Dee in?
 

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I think Bandana Dee isn't that likely to get in, period, because he's not likely for the base game, and that was his last chance. First, we have many more likely newcomers like Ken, Incineroar, Steve (yes Steve) and a Square Enix rep, that Bandana Dee is unlikely because there are no more slots left.

And then theres the probability that the base game was his last chance, since people hated Bandana Dee ever since Gamexplain released that one video about him being a Hat Goomba. All the hate is gonna, at the very least, gonna take some support away from Bandana Dee due to the fact that people think he's nothing more than a Hat Goomba. It's probably also gonna make Sakurai pay even less attention to a character that he barely considered (if at all) in the first place thanks to his bias against Modern Kirby (and it certainly doesn't help that Marx is a candidate now, who is from one of Sakurai's games).

So as much as I want him to get in, I think Bandana Dee's a losing battle. Hopefully we can do something, though. Maybe try to convince HAL to step in and personally ask Sakurai to put Bandana Dee in?
Here's how wrong you are:

Steve is somewhat likely, I'll give you that.
Ken would be an echo and not take up space
we're not getting a tenth Pokemon character, period. Knowing Nintendo, Pokemon will never hit double digits before Mario does.
Square already has a rep, Geno is super unlikely, and FF won't get a second full fighter before Sonic or Mega Man does.

The game was not his last chance. So many slots were taken up for returning vets and fighters that otherwise would have been removed, that just about every other request was squeezed into AT hell, save very few. So far they have hit every one of the top fighters except for BWD and Magolor, who were the fourth and seventh most requested fighters in Japan, respectively.

The hate that came from the GameXplain video was toward them, not against Dee. GameXplain had several factual errors and in the end made an uneducated jurisdiction, not to mention the entire thing was scripted and decided on and not a real debate. Sakurai has paid attention to Dee, tweeting an image of the "four main characters" of Kirby. Dee has been used in promotional merchandise and has major appearances in almost every Kirby game in the last decade, including being playable thrice. Not having Dee in would be like straight up removing Luigi for not being Mario.

Sakurai has stated that there is no bias for Kirby. It's more than that, he's biased against it, like you said He's too afraid to add another Kirby fighter after the minor episode some people had when their highest requests didn't get in, and they blamed Dedede and Meta Knight, calling it Sakurai Bias. In Smash 4 he was too afraid, which led to major backlash. Considering Dee and Magolor both placing in Japan's top 10 requests, it should be likely that he changed his mind and saw the logical answer. Besides, see Corrin and Bayo. Everyone can agree Dee would have been better as a "realizable character."

And besides, HAL would never approach Sakurai with a request. Intelligent begged him to add more FE fighters after Ike's 2 games failed utterly so they could make FE more popular. Again, see the amount of backlash toward FE these days, for having almost as many fighters as Mario, equal to Pokemon for crying out loud, and more fighters than both Zelda and Kirby. That's unacceptable for a second, almost third tier seller. HAL would never do such a thing.
 
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Here's how wrong you are:

Steve is somewhat likely, I'll give you that.
Ken would be an echo and not take up space
we're not getting a tenth Pokemon character, period. Knowing Nintendo, Pokemon will never hit double digits before Mario does.
Square already has a rep, Geno is super unlikely, and FF won't get a second full fighter before Sonic or Mega Man does.

The game was not his last chance. So many slots were taken up for returning vets and fighters that otherwise would have been removed, that just about every other request was squeezed into AT hell, save very few. So far they have hit every one of the top fighters except for BWD and Magolor, who were the fourth and seventh most requested fighters in Japan, respectively.

The hate that came from the GameXplain video was toward them, not against Dee. GameXplain had several factual errors and in the end made an uneducated jurisdiction, not to mention the entire thing was scripted and decided on and not a real debate. Sakurai has paid attention to Dee, tweeting an image of the "four main characters" of Kirby. Dee has been used in promotional merchandise and has major appearances in almost every Kirby game in the last decade, including being playable thrice. Not having Dee in would be like straight up removing Luigi for not being Mario.

Sakurai has stated that there is no bias for Kirby. It's more than that, he's biased against it, like you said He's too afraid to add another Kirby fighter after the minor episode some people had when their highest requests didn't get in, and they blamed Dedede and Meta Knight, calling it Sakurai Bias. In Smash 4 he was too afraid, which led to major backlash. Considering Dee and Magolor both placing in Japan's top 10 requests, it should be likely that he changed his mind and saw the logical answer. Besides, see Corrin and Bayo. Everyone can agree Dee would have been better as a "realizable character."

And besides, HAL would never approach Sakurai with a request. Intelligent begged him to add more FE fighters after Ike's 2 games failed utterly so they could make FE more popular. Again, see the amount of backlash toward FE these days, for having almost as many fighters as Mario, equal to Pokemon for crying out loud, and more fighters than both Zelda and Kirby. That's unacceptable for a second, almost third tier seller. HAL would never do such a thing.
Although there's something I don't particularly agree with, the vast majority I do agree with.

And to add onto that, it's not as if a group of people hating a certain character suddenly makes them unlikely. I've seen plenty of people argue against K. Rool due to relevance, yet he got in due to fan demand. I'm personally of the opinion that Geno does have a solid shot of getting in, but there are still plenty of people who don't see his appeal (myself included, I'll be fair) at all due to him only having a major role in one game. Whether he gets in or not, we'll have to see, of course.
Plenty of people thought we had enough Fire Emblem characters. We got Chrom. Echo, sure, but if Sakurai really listened to his detractors, he wouldn't have put him in, in the first place. Bandana Dee is in an extremely similar situation, except we don't know whether we'll actually get him or not.

On a semi-related note. I'm just bloody tired of people bringing up "Sakurai Bias". Not only is there this article, as well as this article, but we really should not forget the details of Modern Kirby Sakurai's been putting into stuff like animations, costumes, and Final Smashes. I wish there were more stuff from Amazing Mirror and onward, yes, but stuff just ended up falling into the wrong places during 4's development. Nothing says we can't see a modern Kirby stage as DLC (assuming we won't get a new Kirby stage in the base game). Hell, with Epic Yarn getting a rerelease next year, we might just see the scrapped stage being revisited? Only time may tell.

And, while I may be HEAVILY stretching it by saying this: IF, and this is a very huge IF, Marx gets in... Sakurai would probably still be forced to acknowledge Modern Kirby, no? As people state his Star Allies appearance as a good starting point for a moveset, right? He'd most likely have to take moves like his beach ball attacks, which weren't present in his one boss fight in Super Star. If Sakurai were to pick Marx because he supposedly only cares for his own games, he'd have no choice but to acknowledge modern Kirby. (And remember, Ultra was not a game he directed. So you can't use Marx's soul as another point for moveset potential here AND claim Sakurai bias.)
 
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