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That's correctCan't shoot with items in hand now? Oh well, there goes the practice I put into doing that to improve the ROB matchup problems I was having.
Going to assume that shooting with item in hand/executing an attack at the same time as picking up an item aren't the same deal, since I was able to shoot nair lemons after/during landing on my metal blade.
Umm... this looks the same to me.Ice Slasher is WAY faster.
Yes.The ice slasher does 4%. Is this how much it did pre-patch?
You sure?down smash's cool down reduced, Thank god
No way, it had like a half second of startup with a little sound effect before. Now it comes out as fast as crash bomb.Umm... this looks the same to me.
Frame speeds might be slightly different among moves, but Mega Man seems to be untouched in my testing outside of the global item mechanic change of getting rid of item f-tilt and item f-smash due to the c-stick change. (up+up c-stick is no longer up tilt, but up smash)
If you short hop crash bomb, it shoots near the apex of the jump (enough to miss short characters)No way, it had like a half second of startup with a little sound effect before. Now it comes out as fast as crash bomb.
Leaf shield... is a possibility. I tested it, and I'm doing something weird testing it, or you're right. The other 3 I'm 95% sure are not true.+ Ice Slasher has MUCH faster startup
+ Shadow Blade has longer range
? Leaf Shield travels faster when thrown (uncertain, can someone confirm?)
? Pummel may be slightly faster
Rage does not exist in training mode.Killed CPU Mario in middle of FD at 82% with Utilt, community guide says 87.
How does training mode affect rage?
What do you mean by A+B = smash attack setting? I just want to check if this is new knowledge to me!I'm with Locke on this one. offhand, almost nothing except for the item in-hand pellets seems to be all that different. Leaf shield does seem fast, but may be a placebo. And I'll gladly accept the new c stick differences if it means I stop jabbing accidentally with it. (You can still SH Z drop a metal blade and recatch it while shooting lemons)
dsmash seems unchanged in terms of hitboxes, etc... but may be slightly faster startup again... idk.
fsmash seems unchanged (although that A+B = smash attack setting makes pivots much more consistent for me)
usmash seems the same. here's hoping it links a bit better.
something about fair seems better. I can't place it or confirm this really. Something like the knockback angle has changed... idk
bair, uair, and dair all seem unchanged. possibly small changes to killing % but nothing stands out to me
I think dash attack has gotten a 1% nerf. Thought it used to do 11, but now I'm getting 10
all the throws seem functionally unchanged
Leaf shield might be a bit better on throw. all the other B moves seem unchanged. I'm not looking at customs at the moment.
So overall, it looks like we were mostly untouched while the top tiers were indeed brought down. Let's all breathe a sigh of relief. : )
They added a new setting in control options (on by default, but yes you can turn off) that makes A+B do a smash attack. Meaning if you are holding a direction (walking, not running) and hit A+B, you'll do a smash attack now. Another option besides tapping the control stick or using c stickWhat do you mean by A+B = smash attack setting? I just want to check if this is new knowledge to me!
Press attack and special at the exact same time, and you get fSmash. It's a strange decision.What do you mean by A+B = smash attack setting? I just want to check if this is new knowledge to me!
It can still be done ut is harder (the instabounce) THE BEST THING IS WE DON'T GET PHANTOM LAG IF WE CANCEL RUSH LANDING LAG WITH B MOVES! NOW EVERYTHING GETS RID OF PHANTOM LAG! NOT JUST A MOVES! SO LEAF SHIELD CAN BE USED AFTER RUSH TO CANCEL LAG AND THEN JUMP WITHOUT GETTING LAG AGAIN!Also, I tested against Villager and can note (with some relief) that Pocket is unchanged vis-a-vis Metal Blade. If Villager pockets Metal Blade we can still generate a new one, thank Bob.
ETA: This isn't a big deal, but utilt cancelled Instabounce is gone. If you stand behind Rush and utilt, you'll simply perform a utilt now. All other variations of Instabounce still in.