Backwards short hop?

[NeighborhoodP]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WffPBbRXD50

:44

basically you just hold backwards while shorthopping

i toyed with this today and it's seriously broken

it improves spacing and shield pressure and really puts an emphasis on sheik's lagless moves

i feel like a dunce because this is so simple and i feel like a million people must use it already, but to be honest i don't think most people do. it's REALLY good, it has so much potential in so many ways. you can aerial, or empty short hop to grab, empty short hop to fox trot to pivot jab, dash attack, etc. etc.

amsah really did discover the textbook way to play sheik. i'd appreciate any input from him or any other sheiks who are familiar with this

edit: well i guess it's just a short hop while back, lmao i thought it was more complicated than that

 

[Hazygoose]

cfalcs used to do this a lot, then waveland to grab or something spiffy. i use it quite a bit, i don't see a reason not to, especially when spacing when your enemy is too close for comfort but not close enough to combo.

 

[soap]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIUdUvA_Xwc

0:32 thats where i first noticed this a long time ago.

every character does this clearly, im sure u jump back and fair with marth alot too, its pretty basic for spacing.

its particulary **** for sheik though cuz it changes her animation, i actually feel like it makes her shorthop shorter, but that just may be in my head

it definitely makes it easier to waveland out of the spinny animation.

characters like samus and cfalc have this type animation too when jumping backwards

characters like marth and link dont change, they only change with the dj

i like just sh backwards at the top of your sh falling autocancel fair, then just keep doing that to scare noobs from approaching

 

[KirbyKaze]

Kirby does a cute little backflip when you do this I think.

Kirby's so cute

 

[soap]

mario does a tight *** backflip, then double jump and he does like five backflips

thats how i used to mario taunt in between stocks

 

[indie_dave]

sup P too bad i wasn't around for that mm :V if i stayed a day longer i would've gone to that sd tourney :<

it's Soap!!

i'm gonna steal this thx :>

 

[Razor]

p lost a 65 dollar mm. rough.

 

[LooksLikePit]

when did this happen?????????????????????????????????

also how did you not notice that before P? I noticed it and I use it a lot for stuff.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Long enough ago so that it's really starting to be not funny.

 

[Europhoria]

i'm gonna steal this thx :>

Raynex posting:

LOL. yes, do it. Steal the broken art of SH backwards.



wow what a great thread. who would have ever thought of jumping backwards?

 

[soap]

Raynex posting:

LOL. yes, do it. Steal the broken art of SH backwards.



wow what a great thread. who would have ever thought of jumping backwards?

sadly thats all i do in brawl.

there is no other way to move backwards out of a run

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Trip to roll...

 

[Hazygoose]

Raynex posting:

LOL. yes, do it. Steal the broken art of SH backwards.



wow what a great thread. who would have ever thought of jumping backwards?

LOL!
i peed my pants.

 

[soap]

just a little note about sheiks backwards sh that i noticed. the backwards sh animation has her do a backflip and flip her legs over her head, this is very good for evading ground attacks/tilts, as opposed to the standard shorthop where she stretches her foot out.

so even if u wanna jump out of shield in place, or even move forward i would do the backwards shorthop alot then DI forward to evade high hitting ground moves, like falcons jabs, or fox usmash.

 

[Celph]

Yes, I've been doing that all the time since I've learned about it.

I've got to say, I've been utilizing it extremely well. It's definitely broken.

 

[araknophobik]

mario does a tight *** backflip, then double jump and he does like five backflips

thats how i used to mario taunt in between stocks

plz show me this
a video or anything
i heard eggz/gimpy talk about it in secret
wouldn't tell me what it was tho said it was a "washington secret"

 

[soap]

lol its not hard

try it yourself

 

[craiigg]

like to remind you guys, this isn't a discussion about P

i've taken control of the shiek section now, just a heads up for you guys so if you need anything then feel free to send me a PM

 

[soap]

we werent talking about P at all

i feel like u want us to

 

[KirbyKaze]

P is the best sheik in the world.

 

[Pikaville]

Now try putting reverse needle canceled b airs into that and.........

 

[soap]

Now try putting reverse needle canceled b airs into that and.........

this isn't too hard, but the needle charge cuts off your backwards movement, but it's still good for doing the back air in place out of a run as opposed to an advancing bair.

 

[Pikaville]

I love needle canceling.

I did something really nice the other day.

Wavedashed off the top platform on BF,and reversed needle cancled an f air before landing.(Playing towards the right)It was sweet as....

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I always needle cancel before recovering. No reason why.

 

[Miggz]

Reverse needle cancels rocks.

 

[Pikaville]

Doing it while recovering I suppose 2nd guesses your opponent.No one wants needles to the face.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Plus it raises your APM [/starcraft]

 

[Miggz]

Doing it while recovering I suppose 2nd guesses your opponent.No one wants needles to the face.

Yeah, pretty much. =D

 

[soap]

i turn around on the way back sometimes so i can protect with a bair

 

[Binx]

i need to use reverse needle bairs more, I use them every once in a while to really good effect. Maybe its cause I use it so rarely that it works though too so its hard for me to tell.

I play sheik so lazy, except during tech chasing but thats my favorite.