Back Room Tier List Opinions

[TalosSSB]

oh man, I was totally about to look up that post I made and own you.

But then you reminded me it was about kirby v falcon not luigi v puff. You win this round!

But seriously, kirby owns falcon, evidence

I remember when JaimeHR completely destroyed MATTS' kirby on Livestream with falcon.

 

[Morin0]

I remember when malva was destroying MATTS! in Kirby dittos.

 

[Olikus]

Jigglypuff's taunt is adorable what is wrong with you people

I don't like the sound of Pikachu's taunt TBH

I like both.
DK taunt is more annoying

Link's is the most annoying to me. Or maybe it's because I don't like playing against good Links in general.

Link's taunt is just weird

I heard Europe is filled with campy Links

Kirby's taunt always makes me mad.

Fox's taunt is the most meh.

Mario's taunt is either really hilarious or a bit aggravating.

Captain Falcon's taunt is great. I don't mind getting taunted by him at all.

DK's taunt is justified after something dumb happens.

It's pretty much an "iunno" taunt, imo.

Also, I think we can all agree that this game would be unplayable if Kirby's taunt cancel actually had its audio.

tell that to james' 'pivot taunt cancel release sucked in ability ko'

which acutally does make an audio when the star pops out of kirby

Dude I SOOOOOOOO wish that Kirby's taunt cancel included the "HIIII". With the Melee version, which is better than 64 version (as in more obnoxious).

Fox would be pretty cool too ("hehehehehehehehehe")

Samus has the most underrated taunt. It doesn't seem good on paper/just if you look at it alone, but when I blast someone with an aerial charge shot, I do a fair so only one hit comes out, land, and pivot taunt in the direction they were sent. It's kind of like "cool guys don't look explosions". Samus has her back to the explosion of your death. You can't really do that with most taunts because they tend to face the screen.

I just saw all this.....

lets get to the taunt thread!

 

[BRLNK88]

Japanese Link with European Link's air speed = mid tier.

 

[asianaussie]

japanese link with ntsc link's bombs, more like it

 

[ballin4life]

i found out playing J version recently that Link's bomb is not fixed knockback

why is that a bad thing aa?

 

[asianaussie]

no knockdown from explosion under 100% annoys me since i like techchasing

not strictly an issue if you just run away

 

[The Star King]

It's a bad thing. Way harder to follow up on.

And bombs aren't fixed knockback in (U) either ballin lol. The (J) ones are just way weaker.

 

[SSBPete]

but over 100% they have a weird knockback

 

[Sangoku]

It's a bad thing. Way harder to follow up on.

And bombs aren't fixed knockback in (U) either ballin lol. The (J) ones are just way weaker.

Looks like this could go to the simple facts thread lol. I'm sure ballin knew but didn't think : he probably knew bomb recovery had more chance to succeed when you're at high percent.

 

[ballin4life]

It's a bad thing. Way harder to follow up on.

And bombs aren't fixed knockback in (U) either ballin lol. The (J) ones are just way weaker.

whatever, the gradient is much more noticeable in japanese version

 

[asianaussie]

it was really obvious to me, but im a link main

 

[The Star King]

It's ultra-obvious. Where you at ballin

 

[ballin4life]

playing characters that aren't lame?

 

[The Star King]

Link isn't lame omg how dair yew

 

[clubbadubba]

Link isn't lame omg how dair yew

hahahahhahahaha sooooooooo punnnnny. Yea link is awesome ballin, you have to think when you play with link.

 

[Lukingordex]

hmm..

Ness is not that bad...

 

[ballin4life]

from the index's FAQ:

Ness dropped because his DJC isn't broken due to bad aerial hitboxes, his approach is piddly due to the same reason, he has mediocre grab range and the attacks with passable hitboxes are the ones that don't see much use for one reason or another. Overshadowing all of this is the worst aspect: his recovery, which is absurdly predictable, slow and edgeguardable to a fault by anyone half-decent.

but feel free to tell us how wrong we are for putting ness low on the tier list ...

 

[Lukingordex]

I agree lol

I think he is not that bad because he is 9th.

xD

 

[The Star King]

Wow, I got mindgame'd hard

 

[SSBPete]

Me too :/

 

[Lukingordex]

I can´t control Yoshi on smash 64...

That just makes me really sad...

 

[Lukingordex]

I have a doubt:

Why Link and Luigi are tied?

There are any methods to differentiate then?

EDIT:OMG,sorry for double posting...

 

[Krynxe]

No worries Lukinhasss, posting days apart like that constitutes as a bumb and not a double post.

 

[Claire Diviner]

I have a doubt:

Why Link and Luigi are tied?

There are any methods to differentiate then?

There might be? I dunno. I'm guessing they're tied because they have an equal amount of potential that people have discovered in the metagame. Forgive me if I'm wrong on this.

 

[ballin4life]

they're tied because that's how people voted. check OP for details.

although SK now thinks Link > Luigi which would switch them around on this list

 

[Sempiternity]

Well Link would technically be considered higher because his SD is lower, meaning more people agree he's better than Luigi.

 

[ballin4life]

what? it means some people had luigi much higher and some had him much lower

standard deviation does not impact this method of ranking characters

 

[Sempiternity]

Oh man, that's what I get for attempting critical thinking after 6.08 beers.

i'm bad at stats

 

[ballin4life]

you could say that Link should be higher because one person rated Luigi much higher than everyone else and it's that one outlier that ties him with Link

 

[asianaussie]

it's tempting to say that A$'s luigi vote is an outlier and to disregard it (because come on, seriously), but meh

more fun to blame star king

 

[Olikus]

link sucks hairy balls unless your name is isai and you play on hyrule.

 

[asianaussie]

more fun to play than everyone else though

except maybe MAYBE fox

guess norway doesn't seem to understand fun

 

[Han Solo]

Using shines and teleports are so much more fun than anything link can do.

 

[asianaussie]

...how is fox teleporting 'fun'

you're dash u-smashing anyway, what difference does it make lol

 

[Olikus]

more fun to play than everyone else though

except maybe MAYBE fox

guess norway doesn't seem to understand fun

link and fox on hyrule is the most fun?

I dont wanna live on this planet anymore....

 

[Han Solo]

...how is fox teleporting 'fun'

you're dash u-smashing anyway, what difference does it make lol

How are they not fun? They look so sexy.

 

[clubbadubba]

Wonder what the list would look like if we disregarded the highest and lowest rankings of each character, cuz A$ is CRAZY with that luigi placement. I mean I could check right now, but I won't. Any takers?

 

[dandan]

more fun to play than everyone else though

except maybe MAYBE fox

guess norway doesn't seem to understand fun

ahem, ness is the most fun by far.

but only bumblebee ness, the other ones suck.

it is a known fact that in a ness ditto, the one with the bumblebee shirt will win.

 

[ballin4life]

How are they not fun? They look so sexy.

i can barely see them. performing a successful teleport usmash does make you feel like a boss though

ahem, ness is the most fun by far.

but only bumblebee ness, the other ones suck.

it is a known fact that in a ness ditto, the one with the bumblebee shirt will win.

i used to like bumblebee ness but then i realized that everyone else likes him and my inner hipster would not allow that contradiction. i think all of ness's outfits are pretty sick, though i now use the green and orange one. Contrasting colors!