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Awkward Moments Mafia - Game over! Scum wins! Will a SD game ever see a town victory?

Kantrip

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Probably because there's still a 9:2 ratio of town to scum, and the cop's clears help town know who's a VT for sure.

From there all they have to do is sort PR's from scum.
 

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Good, felipe, you're here.

When you post your responses, I want to see AT LEAST one thing that you can formulate and say yourself. I want you to commit to something without just saying "I agree", "I don't know", "maybe", or "I disagree". Of course you can say these things too, but try to come up with something you can commit to and follow up on on your own.
 

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J's claim fits with my set-up analysis. If I knew I was wrong he would move down to lean scum, just because his role makes no sense if my speculation is wrong.

I'm willing to bet scum has a strongman-esque X-shot of some variety.

Reasoning for thinking it's RR? Ryker saving his own *** at the beginning of the game, just as you knew he would. Claiming cop, then claiming VT, and all the shenanigans Ryker pulled was far too confusing for him to be a VT. He wouldn't confuse town with that kind of behavior if he himself was town, unless he was some ridiculous power role. Red Ryu has since confirmed the VT. This makes no sense with how Ryker was the reason we mislynched our cop! All to keep himself from being the lynch...

Vote: Red Ryu
Read Megaman X mafia, Ryker did this as town to save his *** as well pushing a lynch on Ryker and pushing a vengeful to shoot me.

Yes this kinda self meta, or Ryker meta I guess, but pointing out he does this crap as town all the time and it;s really, really, annoying when he does it without reading the game only to live another day even as a VT.
 

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Alright, I'll agree with you there. Maybe Ryker's play is way too self-preserving as any faction. It's detrimental to town either way, so he should stop being arrogant if he actually thinks keeping himself alive is good for the game under the circumstances he does it in.

Where do you think the scum like, Red Ryu?
 

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I don't like the idea of a Doc and a Redirector in the same set-up. I'd think Asdioh is town over Kuz, though the crumb is making me believe both in the game is possible.

J's role is believable, but I am having doubts due to Armor being the one he replaced into.

Fynal/J/Felipe_9595 are who is left to pick from.

Fynal would be my pick of the three if I needed one, reason, he hasn't provided much if anything to town. Heck only time he does is at the end of the days when it is good for him to hop on wagons from my point of view.
 

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J's role claim compensates for all the scumminess of Armor's slot, for you?

I'd go to say if you're going to make your choice based off of the reasoning that they haven't provided anything to town, I would lynch felipe WAAAAY before Fynal. Gova provided very little, and people saw him as town due to some sort of meta that I never understood (he lurked too much to get a good read on). Felipe is coasting and providing absolutely nothing.
 

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Based on the set-up, I can't see it as any other way, 3 PRs only? I can't see that with 3 scum at all, 2 scum is the only possibility I think.

And yes Gova lurks but he usually provides posts with enough info to get good reads on him as town, I'm not certain for this game on him.

Both slots fall under the nothing to town pile, Fynal's slot didn't have meta for me to consider which is why I put him over Felipe.
 

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uggg...I don't know, I'm saying no based on the mass claim. If there is an Indy, it's J or you, J more likely over you.

I can't see Kuz or Asdioh as an Indy, though I have seen an Indy redirector because of OS.
 

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@Kantrip: clarify something for me... do you think ryker lynched TTK because he suspected TTK to be the cop? or do you think it was just simply because it wasn't his own lynch, and the cop part was an accident?
 

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Fynal would be my pick of the three if I needed one, reason, he hasn't provided much if anything to town. Heck only time he does is at the end of the days when it is good for him to hop on wagons from my point of view.
my lack of activity D2 was out of my control, college apps and random crap all over the place. i tried to make more of an effort near the end of the Day and it turned out kinda lame, im sorry for that. did you get the same feeling from D1 or toDay?
 

#HBC | J

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My read for Gova wasn't for meta, but intent.

Fynal hasn't really done anything at all, nor has he done things that are independent. He's just there for a majority of his posts plus his posts don't add anything new but are most of the time just a regurgitation of things that have been said. His push on Felipe is meh, also why did he choose to FoS him instead of vote as one of the first posters in the game and no one telling anyone not to do as such. Seems a bit too cautious. Point me in the direction of showing how Fynal has done things by himself or sticking his own neck out on the line to do things and not be sheepy and I may shush up about him being one of my lynch candidates, otherwise he needs to go.

That turned into a bit more then I thought I needed to but based on overall play I like his far less then say of Ryker's/Gova's slots.
 

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My responses vanished along with my internet .-. My modem (Zyxel PW 660) is a piece of crap.

Well, seeing the late responses, i think everyone agrees than the scum must be between me/J/Fynal. And i really think i am the one who is getting lynched :/ (I think is my fault for trying to replace so late in the game :/)
 

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What kuz said. I can't find a scumteam that doesn't have RR in it. I'm pretty sure he's the best lynch.

We aren't in MyLo as far as I know, so we can lynch RR and look at the flip. Or we could lynch felipe, because I think he will be a liability in LyLo, when we need all of town to vote together to hit scum.
 

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What kuz said. I can't find a scumteam that doesn't have RR in it. I'm pretty sure he's the best lynch.

We aren't in MyLo as far as I know, so we can lynch RR and look at the flip. Or we could lynch felipe, because I think he will be a liability in LyLo, when we need all of town to vote together to hit scum.
We cant assume nothing, what if this is a game of 2 maf, an indy and 4 towns??? Then we are in a potential mylo, or even, a 3 maf vs 4 town??? n that case we can be even on lylo.
 

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My read for Gova wasn't for meta, but intent.

Fynal hasn't really done anything at all, nor has he done things that are independent. He's just there for a majority of his posts plus his posts don't add anything new but are most of the time just a regurgitation of things that have been said. His push on Felipe is meh, also why did he choose to FoS him instead of vote as one of the first posters in the game and no one telling anyone not to do as such. Seems a bit too cautious. Point me in the direction of showing how Fynal has done things by himself or sticking his own neck out on the line to do things and not be sheepy and I may shush up about him being one of my lynch candidates, otherwise he needs to go.

That turned into a bit more then I thought I needed to but based on overall play I like his far less then say of Ryker's/Gova's slots.
so basically, you've got a broad sweeping accusation on me with one piece of incorrect evidence.

my felipe FoS is not scummy. my intention was to point out something suspicious he did, not to push his lynch. I wasn't going to vote him on the basis of a single suspicious wagon hop when it could very well be lylo and he could get alpha'd. he's currently the least likely of my three scumpicks.

your role and armor's actions are not adding up very well for me atm. please answer my questions.
 

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Felipe, kuz wants your thoughts on J and RR.

I want you to take initiative for yourself and stop coasting/sheeping. I want to see scum reads, town reads, and for you to do something on your own.
 

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FFFFU WHERE DID MY POST GO!!!!!

I Already explained why J is scummy for me. His role is extremely unfiting for thsi setup. So far we have only VT and Cop.

For RR, call it guts.
 

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Guts town or guts scum?

And my questions too, please.

Also I said why I think J's role DOES fit the set-up earlier. Do you disagree?
 

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Not completly, but i disagree in a certain way. There is no doc, thats true, and maybe J role is a kind of way to get the cop reports. But, why would have such a role only with 1 PR, and also, not being able to choose maf?? I think he sayd he couldnt choose a maf to use it power because he really t, because i think he is maf (What would be the point of Wasting your power in a partner).
 
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