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[overgamer]

Do you guys always try to land a 9-Judgment, or just fight and lay some randomly?

 

[Gifts]

Do you guys always try to land a 9-Judgment, or just fight and lay some randomly?

Although I just picked up G&W I try not to rely on Judgment. In a match I'll maybe try it once or twice but no more.

 

[Novabound]

Signature test. How come my sig doesn't show up in EVERY forum? : (

Or at all?

 

[Cinnanmonny]

HOW DO I KILL?
I'm on a quest, gonna learn how to kill
gonna be patient
but it's still hard lol

 

[Lightning Tiger]

HOW DO I KILL?
I'm on a quest, gonna learn how to kill
gonna be patient
but it's still hard lol

Save the Dair + Fair Best choices.
F Tilt High%

You will rarely kill with any smash attack except for a tech chased up smash. Which rarely happens.

 

[-Ominous-]

If you hit Ike's or Marth's counter with a 9 on judgement, does it kill you?

 

[A2ZOMG]

If you hit Ike's or Marth's counter with a 9 on judgement, does it kill you?

No, their counters really don't have that much knockback honestly.

 

[Novabound]

No, their counters really don't have that much knockback honestly.

It kills you. I've hit marth's counter with oil from pika's thunder...worst match ever.

 

[Gifts]

No, their counters really don't have that much knockback honestly.

How often do you play marth's? I always get sent flying when I get hit whith a counter...

 

[kaak]

How often do you play marth's? I always get sent flying when I get hit whith a counter...

countering judge is way too strong and i agree that fair/dair the best killing moves and i prefer dair

 

[A2ZOMG]

How often do you play marth's? I always get sent flying when I get hit whith a counter...

They send you offstage, but it never kills you unless you're at like 150ish% and the counter is fresh or something.

I've easily survived at high percents after getting different charged Smash attacks countered. Marth and Ike really aren't going to kill you with Counter. On top of being iffy, it really isn't their strongest option.

 

[Gifts]

countering judge is way too strong and i agree that fair/dair the best killing moves and i prefer dair

I know the person who was posted about countering was more talking of judgment, I was more talking about the smashes.

They send you offstage, but it never kills you unless you're at like 150ish% and the counter is fresh or something.

I've easily survived at high percents after getting different charged Smash attacks countered. Marth and Ike really aren't going to kill you with Counter. On top of being iffy, it really isn't their strongest option.

Ohh thats what I meant, you get sent flying but it doesn't kill. My bad if I sounded like it was going to kill.

 

[Novabound]

They send you offstage, but it never kills you unless you're at like 150ish% and the counter is fresh or something.

I've easily survived at high percents after getting different charged Smash attacks countered. Marth and Ike really aren't going to kill you with Counter. On top of being iffy, it really isn't their strongest option.

I'll be honest and say I've never 9'd a counter, but I've oiled a counter with a bucket full of thunders, and I instantly died at zero. I feel like a 9 can potentially kill pretty low from counter

 

[Lightning Tiger]

How do you stop a super agressive mk?

 

[A2ZOMG]

Bait him.

If he Tornados a lot, UpB, U-air, DA, and well timed Smashes are options to deal with it.

 

[kaak]

Bait him.

If he Tornados a lot, UpB, U-air, DA, and well timed Smashes are options to deal with it.

agree and dtilt =) (not for nado)

 

[Lightning Tiger]

Will the dair always beat out the SL if it is below you?
Cuz I kept getting hit by it. or traded.
If not how do you space it/beat out SL below you? I guess baiting and Air dodging works. :/ didn't work that well.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Yeah, D-air beats the Shuttle Loop like 99% of the time. That's mainly useful in teams, but still, it's worth doing for the purpose or edgeguarding.

 

[Today]

Yeah! If the MK is in the air below you of course you can hit him with dair!
When are you using dair or when is he Shuttle Looping? Explain to me the situation you're in.

Also, guys! UpB is amazing! Remember that!! I honestly think it's one of his best moves next to nair. Gyah!

 

[PentaSalia]

DAIR is great vs MK offstage as well. i do it everytime vs an Mk trying to recover from belowxD
slowfall dair

i got it from zacs vid vs tryant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plH6KwNcdAc#t=6m2s

 

[kaak]

Yeah! If the MK is in the air below you of course you can hit him with dair!
When are you using dair or when is he Shuttle Looping? Explain to me the situation you're in.

Also, guys! UpB is amazing! Remember that!! I honestly think it's one of his best moves next to nair. Gyah!

upB>nair in my playstyle

 

[Lightning Tiger]

Usually its at the same time, I can predict his SL coming so I just dair.
Not exactly sure when but i know it is coming.

 

[Today]

XD Kaak! I think upb may be my favorite move. I really like bair because it's a turtle, though!

@Lightning, You should hit him if he's under you, though. Unless your next to him right when he SL then you could just be getting hit by the hitbox?

 

[A2ZOMG]

DAIR is great vs MK offstage as well. i do it everytime vs an Mk trying to recover from belowxD
slowfall dair

i got it from zacs vid vs tryant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plH6KwNcdAc#t=6m2s

Good MKs don't actually get hit by D-air offstage if you slowfall it. You slowfall it once it hits them. =P

The ones I play usually stall with midair jumps waiting for it.

 

[Lightning Tiger]

@Today. Nope, I was always above. I guess my spacing was just off. T.T
Poop. Could have saved me a couple of frustrating matches.

 

[Today]

Good MKs don't get hit by dair at all. Especially on stage. Darn utilt.

@Lightning, Maybe so? Hrm! Welp, if you have a video you could show it and we can pin point it there, too.

 

[A2ZOMG]

You can easily D-air edgeguard MKs if they're below, you just have to remember to not slowfall it. =P

 

[Today]

You can still hit an MK with dair, too. You'd have to hit them where utilt's hitbox isn't at pretty much.
Fortunately, not that many MKs really know that because of the lack of GnWs they play. XP But I still think an MK that knows the GnW matchup is harder than a Marth.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Yeah, it's a really depressing matchup because everything you do for the most part is just tricking your way in to get in a Jab/Grab, while all he has to do is just camp with F-air and F-tilt...

If you actually outranged him on a poke option, it would be a pretty close matchup...

 

[Laem]

Yeah, it's a really depressing matchup because everything you do for the most part is just tricking your way in to get in a Jab/Grab, while all he has to do is just camp with F-air and F-tilt...

If you actually outranged him on a poke option, it would be a pretty close matchup...

pretty sure bair does just that. Def more range than fair, maybe more than ftilt. the problem is mk got upB to counter that.

 

[kewl]

Bait with chef to get that bair/nair/fair in.

I usually like to Up-B to Chef a MK. Extreme mindgamezz.

 

[Today]

Yeah. If you're going to bair he's going to upB. And the MKs I play are extremely patient. We may end up timing out, honestly. They will sit there and wait for you to do something. And you know that they are going to do something, but you have to approach. Other than that, most MKs I run into tournament aren't patient against me so it's easier. And they just generally don't know what to do. But other than that, people in my area I'm kind of screwed.

 

[kewl]

Time them out. Dont worry about it. Theyll probably play you extremely paitently, and you should too.
If youre winning, dont approach. Theyll probably get impaitent and approach you, and thats way too easy to bait and punish.

 

[kaak]

friday a huge tourney around 90 people :D and i'm full of confidence :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyDCiJZncE8 =D

 

[izzy24]

sweet go get bro

 

[Today]

Yeah. Patience is certainly down-air when it comes to Brawl.
Did anyone see what I did there? XP
But generally the MKs here in my state are really good and top players. They're extremely patient. I always hear that taunting people actually breaks patience and thinking. But I always feel bad when I taunt.

Good luck, Kaak! You got this! Show some vids!

 

[Lightning Tiger]

QQ
no vids.
I guess next tourney I'm going to I'll try to get some vids. Either way I'm picking up marth.

 

[Today]

Whaa? You're picking up Marth?

 

[A2ZOMG]

I picked up Marth a long time ago. Not for competitive purposes, but just for the sake of learning how the character works.

 

[Today]

That makes sense. How well has that helped you with the match-up? I wouldn't mind picking up Marth, but I don't like playing characters I don't enjoy... and I just learnt to have a strong dislike for Marth. Darn fairs.