Can you explain the last part please?
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Ereth
Murda Bidness
You can change the direction of dancing blade, if you do the second hit of DB up then it is harder to sdi out of it
SSS
Smash Ace
I forgot how to Marf.
Remind me how to Marf.
Remind me how to Marf.
1PokeMastr
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Fair.
And Fair.
Oh and Fair again.
And Fair.
Oh and Fair again.
DB can't be SDI'd because of reasons.
Hold away from Marth when DB starts and normal DI will get you out of it after the 3rd hit.
2nd hit of DB up sucks you back in instead of pushing you out so DI doesn't do much.
If you are close to Marth, holding up and into Marth will let you pop up behind/above Marth because he steps forward.
In the ditto, hold up/into Marth and mash DS to get out after the second hit.
Hold away from Marth when DB starts and normal DI will get you out of it after the 3rd hit.
2nd hit of DB up sucks you back in instead of pushing you out so DI doesn't do much.
If you are close to Marth, holding up and into Marth will let you pop up behind/above Marth because he steps forward.
In the ditto, hold up/into Marth and mash DS to get out after the second hit.
Osennecho
Smash Ace
So I think I'm about to ask the scrubbiest question I've ever asked on Smashboards. Never bothered to find out exactly what all causes Marth to sometimes Up Bs through the stage/ledge without grabbing it or missing it at times as it never happens to me anymore... Till just recently when I've started branching my recovery methods slightly further/changing angles. Now it's happening again and I'm even getting stupid accidental DSLCs occasionally. So what are the causes of up-bing through/past the ledge?
Just asking this makes me feel sad lol.
Just asking this makes me feel sad lol.
It's a combination of landing on stage and snapping the ledge at the same time.
The ledge of stages being varied and also having bull **** aerial/ground combination properties.
Not fully tested, but that's the general hypothesis.
The ledge of stages being varied and also having bull **** aerial/ground combination properties.
Not fully tested, but that's the general hypothesis.
Osennecho
Smash Ace
Blah... So I guess I'll just have to experiment even longer then. Just means I need to master his recovery more. Except DSLCs. That stuff is not worth my time.
SSS
Smash Ace
DSLC?
Osennecho
Smash Ace
SSS
Smash Ace
Oh. Okay. Just making sure I didn't miss out on some huge Marf tactic.
Ereth
Murda Bidness
DSC is amazing. If it is ever mastered it will be a huge help to marth players
Sar
Smash Journeyman
Do you guys have a marth vs olimar matchup thread anywhere? I can't seem to find it, but the marth boards are so active I find that hard to believe.
If not, does anyone have a real quick crash-course of tips to help in that MU? I'm playing in a tournament tomorrow and I just found that two of my biggest competitors have olimars I should be prepared for.
If not, does anyone have a real quick crash-course of tips to help in that MU? I'm playing in a tournament tomorrow and I just found that two of my biggest competitors have olimars I should be prepared for.
Ereth
Murda Bidness
Sephiroths Masamune
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Tap forward on the C stick.
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For Fsmash, no.
For TIPPERED Fsmash is another story. Another Marth may know better, but iirc, you have to stutter step a little to the front and Fsmash with the C-stick to the other side. The timing is pretty tight, but easy to master.
For TIPPERED Fsmash is another story. Another Marth may know better, but iirc, you have to stutter step a little to the front and Fsmash with the C-stick to the other side. The timing is pretty tight, but easy to master.
Zano
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stutter step reverse fsmash
1PokeMastr
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Stutter Step toward Wario and Fsmash away from him :3
SSS
Smash Ace
Wait if you're fsmashing away from him how does it hit him. . .
Am i just ******** or something?
Osennecho
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SSS
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At the beginning of the attack, and following her sword's motion, there is a hitbox at the back and above Marth's head.
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Osennecho
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So I presume it is just the CPU Wario being absurdly stupid and letting me chain retreating pivot grabs and pummels on him while I was practicing with Marth multiple times in a row and not a true CG barring trips? It is hilarious to do and good retreating pivot grab practice regardless though.
SSS
Smash Ace
Why not just do normal grabs? Why pivot grabs?
You are talking about grab release, right?
Also, I f**king hate Wario so hard.
Osennecho
Smash Ace
Different ranges of the grab. And yes. I am pummel->grab release->Retreating pivot grab towards the wario so i turn and regrab->pummel-> repeat. So far unless i've dropped it the CPU has only gotten out w/ a footstool and even when that happens I feel like I f'd up the timing. So essentially if I don't drop it once about 50% or w/e it can't mash enough be4 the first pummel to make it ground release or not pummel I can repeat this till the grab release is at kill %.
SSS
Smash Ace
Hmmm. I have heard that Wario is easy to grab release. I've also heard that Marth is good at grab release chains. . .I'm pretty sure he can infinite Ness and Lucas without too much difficulty. Find a friend to DI away and mash jump while you do it.
Osennecho
Smash Ace
SSS
Smash Ace
Hmmmmmm. Without being able to pivot grab, you would reach the end of the stage and couldn't get in much damage.
But you could also just air release into a spike. . .
Osennecho
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It doesn't work on Wario.
Best Damage giver is Usmash with 18%.
Best Damage giver is Usmash with 18%.
Osennecho
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Reverse stutter step tipper fsmash should be barely better if fresh I think? but a lot harder to do. Opting for Usmash is probs the better option I guess? I figured the CG thing I mentioned was just CPUs being dumb. Can the Wario simply jump out, an attack, or does it need to be a footstool?
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Wario can jump out to avoid the CG, the Cpus are just dumb.
Fsmash does give 1 more percent, but it's your kill option, so don't STALE it.
Fsmash does give 1 more percent, but it's your kill option, so don't STALE it.
OliClutch117
Smash Apprentice
Hey new to competitive Brawl curious how I should play Marth and what to practice on my own.
Zano
Smash Master
space everything perfectly or you get punished.
OliClutch117
Smash Apprentice
Seems simple enough.
I have heard that you should play a more grounded Marth rather then just jumping and doing pointless aerials, but when I watch vids I feel like Marth does more of the pointless aerials. So should I play a more grounded Marth?
I have heard that you should play a more grounded Marth rather then just jumping and doing pointless aerials, but when I watch vids I feel like Marth does more of the pointless aerials. So should I play a more grounded Marth?
Osennecho
Smash Ace
1 jump is fine. Don't get greedy and use 2 unless you feel you are guaranteed to not get punished. A jumpless Marf is a dead Marf.
OliClutch117
Smash Apprentice
What are some of the safest was to approach with Marf?