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Ask a quick question, get a quick answer (The Marth FAQ's)
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ViCTORiOUSViC
Smash Apprentice
how can you control how they will be released?
KRiMz0N
Smash Journeyman
pummel once or twice in the beginning then wait
Asimio
Smash Apprentice
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When G&W does his grab where he smacks you on the ground, when are you suppose to press your L or R button to get the tech? At the end of the third juggle?
Also How do you do your full DB quickly? If i press it too quickly it stops after the second or third hit. If i press B>forward>b>up>b>b(try it out) it comes out really fast. Can it be done that fast with other variations?
Also How do you do your full DB quickly? If i press it too quickly it stops after the second or third hit. If i press B>forward>b>up>b>b(try it out) it comes out really fast. Can it be done that fast with other variations?
KRiMz0N
Smash Journeyman
i dont think you can tech out of it, can you
also marth can wavedash by sh fairing over the peak of the diagonal pipe from left to right starting on the ground
also marth can wavedash by sh fairing over the peak of the diagonal pipe from left to right starting on the ground
Yes, you can tech the dthrow. Hit R or L 20 frames (1/3 of a second) before you hit the ground. I guess visually you could wait until you see the third juggle...
KRiMz0N
Smash Journeyman
oh that's not that bad, i should practice that then before obm corners me with his broken dsmash
Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
ive never had a problem, but i hold the direction i want, like forwardB>forwardB>forwardB>upB
idk what the problem is =\
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
It's just a rhythm you'll eventually get down. Keep practicing and eventually you'll get it down 100%.
KRiMz0N
Smash Journeyman
doodguys. sh fair to a first hit nair to a fast fall'd fsmash is awesome win
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
Sounds like it can be AD'ed, but then again Marth's air game owns.
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
Smash Legend
Can your opponent DI?
It sounds like that won't work at all unless the DI into it and they're at low %'s.
It sounds like that won't work at all unless the DI into it and they're at low %'s.
Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
i hope you're being sarcastic, krimzon
KRiMz0N
Smash Journeyman
i hope you're being sarcastic zeus because it's perfect for spacing the first hit of a nair, the fair doesn't even need to hit
Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
show me a vid and prove it cant be DIed.
KRiMz0N
Smash Journeyman
prove what can't be DI'd
the fair is just for spacing, you can't link nair into it. you can only link fsmash into nair. and since it's a little difficult to time a nair's first hit and land, the fair gives you just enough time to get it off before you land
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
So the fair doesn't connect?
KRiMz0N
Smash Journeyman
it could but it could lead to them teching or being hit out of it
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
So if the fair connects how d you follow with a nair>fsmash?
KRiMz0N
Smash Journeyman
you di into them
Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
sounds like it doesn't work to me >.<
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
It can be shielded, its just like a regular whiffed Nair to setup spacing for Fsmash.
Chileno4Live
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What is a good secondary for Marth? And another question, how do you deal with a MetaKnight? The MetaKnight i play loves to Roll Dodge behind me and do Dsmashes. Or he likes to do jabs and after that Dsmash. It is very annoying >.<
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
People will say snake d3 MK falco. But i like pika since he does really good against some of your bad match ups (snake and d3). As far as mk is concered if you can predict the roll you should be able to punish with Dancing blade.
BacklashMarth
Smash Lord
do people even DO anything after they have this question answered???
Palpi
Smash Hero
LOL I am not sure. I main MK atm and I am probably switching back to marth, but if I know someone is MK I will do a MK ditto. I actually enjoy the MK ditto (one of my better match ups imo lol)
And if there mk is getting away with rolling behind you and dsmashing its prolly not the character's problem... though MK does do well against Marth.
And if there mk is getting away with rolling behind you and dsmashing its prolly not the character's problem... though MK does do well against Marth.
KRiMz0N
Smash Journeyman
absolutely not why would they
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
To answer Chileno: DB and maybe pivot Dtilt, those **** roll spammers, even MK.
To answer Backlash: Yes, most of them do hopefully. And we have to play on wifi again, rematch time.
To answer Backlash: Yes, most of them do hopefully. And we have to play on wifi again, rematch time.
Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
Lord Chair
Smash Master
Hello Marfs, it's me again,
After my first experience with a decent Snake, I noticed that after a while I started utilizing utilt and uair juggles a lot more than usual. From what I know of Snake's air game, that was the right thing to do.
Now I'm wondering, I've been studying quite a few tournament videos of this match-up, but never do Marth players (or at least the ones I see) limit their Fair and Dancing Blade game as much as I'm doing in the match-up.
Am I doing something wrong, or does the average Marth use too little vertical combat against Snake?
EDIT: Oh yes and Uthrow of course.
After my first experience with a decent Snake, I noticed that after a while I started utilizing utilt and uair juggles a lot more than usual. From what I know of Snake's air game, that was the right thing to do.
Now I'm wondering, I've been studying quite a few tournament videos of this match-up, but never do Marth players (or at least the ones I see) limit their Fair and Dancing Blade game as much as I'm doing in the match-up.
Am I doing something wrong, or does the average Marth use too little vertical combat against Snake?
EDIT: Oh yes and Uthrow of course.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
iirc, DB if used on the fringe can beat out tornado.
Oh, and for the lulz, it's veerrrryy difficult to do footstool to beat tornado, but possible.
BacklashMarth
Smash Lord
Fair enuff. I guess its only polite of me to give you a chance to break my sheild like i did yours lol. Unfortunatly D3 isnt someone i use so your sheild target will be rather harder to hit (ignoring mindgames of course).
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
If we could keep snake above us the whole match, believe me, we would.
But it's not like there is a "push here to juggle" button. We have to work to get inside his range and fair + dtilt are your safest pokes. Not using them would be bad.
Lord Chair
Smash Master
Well, not using dtilt and fair at all would be a little extreme of course. And of course I know that you cannot just get your opponent in the air just like that, but I often note that Marths do not use uair in situations in which it´s at least as capable of hitting as fair.
Also, utilt isn´t that bad. Coming out in frame 6 and having a backwards hitbox. Yes it´s punishable, nay it´s not impossible to land. Yet I rarely if ever see this move used against Snake.
Perhaps I´m missing the big picture? Please elaborate.
EDIT: And again, uthrow. Why not?
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
^What he said.
Also, who said DB can't juggle? Do the up variation for "Super Special Awesome!" to happen.
Got to get in first b4 you begin to go for mass killing.
you shouldn't use dtilt at all vs snake you will just get a knee to the face
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
if he shields the dtilt, knee won't reach unless the spacing was bad. the second hit of his ftilt won't even reach you if you space it really well, but i believe you can just shield that on reaction (after seeing the first ftilt) anyways. you can also follow the first dtilt up with another dtilt and the second hit of his ftilt definitely won't reach.
just tested this btw.
Lord Chair
Smash Master
Well, perfectly spacing a dtilt isn't the most easy thing to do.
Against Snake.
Against Snake.