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[ciaza]

Oh, with sites like Mediafire, there's a premium option for faster download speeds without wait times, but you can also download it for free. Just look for anything that says something like "Slower download." You'll probably have to wait for like a minute for the actual download link to become available (most of the sites have a timer that counts the minute down).

There's nothing like that in mediafire though... hence why it's the best.

It's a long shot but: are you closing the pop-up that appears in a new window once you click download?

 

[KeroKeroppi]

There's nothing like that in mediafire though... hence why it's the best.

It's a long shot but: are you closing the pop-up that appears in a new window once you click download?

noo, the pop up ask me if i want to find or save some file or something

 

[ciaza]

Yeah good, you're meant to close it. I thought you were getting confused and thought that that was the download mirror.

I honestly have no idea what the problem is then - it's a ****ing mediafire download link.

 

[DMoogle]

Post the link and I'll walk you through it.

 

[KeroKeroppi]

wow i feeel like a moron. ive been clicking find and save, freaking out about what the problem was.

 

[KeroKeroppi]

d mooogle ill post the link if i have trouble again, i appreciate it alot thanks.



iss it supposed to say 'download starting' for madd long, im kinda geting scared it wont workk

 

[asianaussie]

if there's a problem try another link or right click and save link as/save as, depending on browser

 

[KeroKeroppi]

i cant tell if theres a problem. how long does this typically take because its been saying download starting for like a half hour

 

[asianaussie]

if your computer is fast the download should start before that message actually comes up lol

refresh the page and try again

 

[KeroKeroppi]

allright let me get this straight. i go to the link you posted for mediafire. i click download. exit the popup. and sit back and wait?

 

[asianaussie]

i have no idea how you can be unable to use mediafire but have worked out how to post on a forum

http://download328.mediafire.com/btix2fp7v2zg/3fq9adq06mrxf4q/pj64k.rar

haven't tried direct linking with mediafire but meh, it might work

 

[KeroKeroppi]

well what do i do when the popup comes up!

 

[DMoogle]

Post a screenshot of the pop-up you're referring to.

 

[KeroKeroppi]

i have no idea how to do that. its litterally the thing that comes up and say


do you want to save this file or find a file to open it

 

[asianaussie]

>_>

you don't close that popup, that's the download box

save file > save it to your desktop

download winzip or 7zip or something to extract the file

 

[KeroKeroppi]

i down loaded winzip jost to find out that after the 20 munite process it cost fifty dollars.

will someone please please please post a detailed explination on how to down load project 64

 

[Sempiternity]

Christ, is this your first time using Windows?

 

[asianaussie]

i don't advocate winrar on principle but you can use that instead

if you need detail on how to download a file from mediafire i can't see you doing the brainwork needed to outthink somebody in smash, especially with a character like ness

 

[joY]

i don't advocate winrar on principle but you can use that instead

if you need detail on how to download a file from mediafire i can't see you doing the brainwork needed to outthink somebody in smash, especially with a character like ness

I can foresee questions concerning error codes, various graphics, audio and controller plug-ins, connectivity and loss of connectivity (desynch) and so on.

I'll link Kero to a post I made earlier:

Everything you need can be found here

Specifically in the Very Important Files section.

 

[The Star King]

if you need detail on how to download a file from mediafire i can't see you doing the brainwork needed to outthink somebody in smash, especially with a character like ness

That's what he wants you to think. Don't fall for his little game, aa!

 

[Banana Jack]

if i have low ping and low delay...why does it tell me"banana jack you are lagging from the rest of the players" when i finally find someone else that has low ping and low delay?

 

[kys]

if i have low ping and low delay...why does it tell me"banana jack you are lagging from the rest of the players" when i finally find someone else that has low ping and low delay?

Ping is the time it takes for you to send a package to the server and have it come back. If your ping is low, it only means you live close to the server and your delay (the amount of time it takes for a controller input to register on the server) will then be low, accordingly.

Ping and delay have NOTHING (almost) to do with lag. This is something a lot of people do not understand. High pingers can be lag free, and low pingers can bring the game down to a nice 30 fps.

Check your internet connection. Make sure you're wired and that no one in your house is stealing your internet. Make sure all other programs are closed. Check for viruses and other nasty stuff too. Hope this helps

 

[Mahie]

Also make sure that you're using the same connection type as the other players (ie. LAN, Excellent, Good...)

 

[stylisland]

I downloaded all the files from the index and followed the instructions and every time I try to open project64k it says it fails to initialize properly. Also, when I try to use the regular Project64 it will fail to open the rom.

I'm using Windows XP on a virtual machine for a Mac would that possibly have something to do with it?

 

[Battlecow]

Hey, to pile question on question here-

I'm having trouble getting the full stick-hops out of my hori minipad on PJ64. I crank the range up to 100 and the deadzone to 0 to get it to act even close to normal, but it still won't let me stick-jump. I tried calibrating it in windows; I think the problem might be there. When I try to calibrate, it tells me to "Move the slider all the way up and down" "Move the X rotation all the way up and down" "Move the Y rotation all the way up and down" and "Move the Z rotation all the way up and down."

What the hell are the slider and Z rotation? I'm assuming that the X rotation is just moving my stick to the left and then to the right, and that teh Y is just moving it up and down. Does this have something to do with my sensitivity problems? What Range/Deadzone do you guys use for horis?

 

[joY]

Before exploring more complex alternatives, you should first redownload the ROM, and, just in case, the emulator.

Specifically with your case, the ROM file could have been corrupt.



Edit: This post was for Stylisland

 

[stylisland]

Before exploring more complex alternatives, you should first redownload the ROM, and, just in case, the emulator.

Specifically with your case, the ROM file could have been corrupt.

Just tried redownloading both the ROM and the emulator and had the same issues. Could it be because I'm trying to run it on a virtual machine rather than a full version of windows?

 

[Dingus]

Just tried redownloading both the ROM and the emulator and had the same issues. Could it be because I'm trying to run it on a virtual machine rather than a full version of windows?

I cant help you there, but I can tell you that I run Proj64 on my dual booted mac without any problems. So if the Virtual Machine keeps sucking, just install windows.

 

[Sempiternity]

if i have low ping and low delay...why does it tell me"banana jack you are lagging from the rest of the players" when i finally find someone else that has low ping and low delay?

You internet connection is key here. You could have blazingly fast speeds, but if that speed isn't dealt with efficiently, it means nothing.

Run this test here: http://ndt.anl.gov:7123/ and look for anything about packet queuing (it should be in bold blue letters).

If you've been stricken with this plague, you're pretty much **** out of luck. This means your packets are being backed up and not transferring properly, so expect numerous lag spikes and significant framerate drops.

There are a few causes to packet queuing and other packet problems. Your ISP could simply blow nuts at transferring webbernets properly (like Comcast), or you could be on a network used by other people. If you're at college, this is most certainly the case. Most universities use a T-carrier (usually T1 or T3), which means that while you might have a very fast connection, it is shared by everybody, which creates a total cluster**** of chaos when transferring data packets. In this case, there will be a lot of dropped, late, broken, or otherwise ****ed up packets being sent/received. Regular internet usage doesn't require all packets to arrive in perfect order, and you'll hardly notice if packet queuing is happening (perhaps slow loading times or timeouts), but Kaillera requires every single packet to be transferred on time, intact, and in order between the two players. Even the slightest mismatch can cause desynchs or lag. A lag spike (the game seizes up briefly) occurs when packets aren't processed correctly, and when serious packet queuing is happening, you can expect multiple lag spikes per second, which makes any game unplayable. This is very poor programming (what happens when an online service is coded by a bunch of amateurs or lazy ****ers) and other online services such as PSN or Xbox Live do not depend so heavily on packet transfer because it's unrealistic to think that all data is sent and received without a hitch. It's certainly easier to code Kaillera the way it is, but it's not better. At all. However, it's all we have at the moment (I have heard good things about PJ64 1.7, though).

Point is, you will have trouble playing if packet queuing persists. Kaillera works with speeds as low as dial-up, provided the connection is crystal clear and clean.

You have a few options: play at home, making sure nobody else is using your network. This might still not work, as the world isn't perfect. Always run the test before playing. Inspect the results, do some Googling, and you'll find out what is good and what is bad, and when the ideal time and place is to play.

It is possible to connect at a university, but it must be done during off hours. I have had varying amounts of success in the early-to-mid-afternoon from about 1-2pm and in the wee hours of the morning around 3am. I presume any time before 10am should work, too, as people will be at class if they're awake. However, still expect many desynchs (usually after each game or two).

It's tough, but ya gotta work with what you're dealt.

Just tried redownloading both the ROM and the emulator and had the same issues. Could it be because I'm trying to run it on a virtual machine rather than a full version of windows?

I have had trouble running Windows emulators on Macs as well. What virtual machine software are you using?

 

[stylisland]

I have had trouble running Windows emulators on Macs as well. What virtual machine software are you using?

I'm using VMware Fusion. I'm thinking I should just fully install windows to make it less of a hastle. I need to get a usb port for a 64 controller anyways so I have some time to figure everything out. If I have any trouble with windows fully installed I'll be sure to ask. Thanks to everyone that tried to help.

 

[Sempiternity]

I'm using VMware Fusion. I'm thinking I should just fully install windows to make it less of a hastle. I need to get a usb port for a 64 controller anyways so I have some time to figure everything out. If I have any trouble with windows fully installed I'll be sure to ask. Thanks to everyone that tried to help.

I've got some experience with VMWare Fusion, and it's not good. I have gotten ROMs to work in regular PJ64 (haven't tried online), but I only managed like 30-40 frames which is pitiful. This was modern hardware, too, so I'm not sure what the deal was.

 

[stylisland]

I've got some experience with VMWare Fusion, and it's not good. I have gotten ROMs to work in regular PJ64 (haven't tried online), but I only managed like 30-40 frames which is pitiful. This was modern hardware, too, so I'm not sure what the deal was.

Is there a Virtual Machine you'd recommend, I'm down for options before fully partitioning my hard drive.

 

[sharksquail]

I tried parallels, and vmware fusion. I was able to get the emulator working fine on both, but could not get net play to work, I would recommend doing a full install of xp, or tiny xp.

 

[stylisland]

Hey, to pile question on question here-

I'm having trouble getting the full stick-hops out of my hori minipad on PJ64. I crank the range up to 100 and the deadzone to 0 to get it to act even close to normal, but it still won't let me stick-jump. I tried calibrating it in windows; I think the problem might be there. When I try to calibrate, it tells me to "Move the slider all the way up and down" "Move the X rotation all the way up and down" "Move the Y rotation all the way up and down" and "Move the Z rotation all the way up and down."

What the hell are the slider and Z rotation? I'm assuming that the X rotation is just moving my stick to the left and then to the right, and that teh Y is just moving it up and down. Does this have something to do with my sensitivity problems? What Range/Deadzone do you guys use for horis?

Someone should answer this.

 

[DMoogle]

@Battlecow:

Your adapter probably makes your PC think you have two joysticks or something. As long as the input reads as x-axis and y-axis in PJ64k, it doesn't matter what you set the slider or Z axis as.

I'm not sure why you're having problems though.

 

[Sempiternity]

I, like the above guy, would recommend a partitioned install of XP. Virtual machines often have trouble with internet-related things like online games, so your best bet is not to fiddle with that and just start from scratch.

As for the pad problem, the Z-axis refers to the shoulder buttons on my Xbox controller (they're variable like GC controllers), but I don't remember anything about a slider...

 

[kys]

@Battlecow:

Your adapter probably makes your PC think you have two joysticks or something. As long as the input reads as x-axis and y-axis in PJ64k, it doesn't matter what you set the slider or Z axis as.

I'm not sure why you're having problems though.

Sometimes when you're calibrating controllers it will view the shoulder buttons as an axis. Obviously in the case of the hori it would be L and R. But that shouldn't affect your inability to get full stick hops.....weird.

 

[Banana Jack]

Also make sure that you're using the same connection type as the other players (ie. LAN, Excellent, Good...)

yeah i do but i always wondered about that. what is an 'excellent' or 'good' connection?

 

[Peek~]

yeah i do but i always wondered about that. what is an 'excellent' or 'good' connection?

Dont worry too much about that.

Just know that LAN is what everyone plays now and that it has the lowest frame delay in servers. The only downside is that desynch occurs much more than say on Good connection.

If you want low frame delay and little-to-no desynch then P2P is the way to go

 

[sharksquail]

@ battlecow. Do you have a regular 64 controller? I used a regular 64 controller to callibrate and use 10-80 IIRC for my hori.