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It's like, you read what I posted, but picked and pulled at was most beneficial for your argument.Do you really think Bruce Lee's bigger muscles would help him hunting? What would he do? Chase after a mammoth and beat it up until it's dead with his amazing powers because his muscles make so much more of a difference? Yeah ...
No.
He couldn't kill a mammoth, no matter how much muscle power he has. He couldn't kill anything with his bare hands and then proceed to eat it because the human doesn't have the body or the tools of a hunter. The human body is not strong, it is not fast and it is not equipped with weapons that would allow us to chase down, kill and eat an animal. Doesn't that say everything already? Bruce Lee would be an equally bad hunter as every other human being would.
What a human body does have though, is extraordinary stamina that exceeds nearly every other terrestial animal's stamina. This allows him to travel a lot more steadily, which is absolutely counterproductive to hunting but very useful to collect plants. What a human also has are very well refined arms with well refined hands. Their total lack of power or claws make it unsuited for hunting but perfect to pluck fruits, roots, grasses and other plants.
And before you think you can lecture me about evolution you should take a quick look at the anatomy of the human body: what we have in common with pure herbivores are the teeth, the saliva, the cheek pouch, the stomach, the gastric acid, the intestine, the urine, the sweat and the fact that our body does not produce vitamine C on its own in addition to the fact that the shape and the constitution of our body is perfectly suited for optaining plants - fruit in particular. What our digestion has in common with that of carnivores or other omnivores is nothing. I don't know how much clearer it could be layed out that we have to body of herbivores.
Oh, and muscle power in no way is a sign that a species belongs to carnivores or omnivores. Gorillas are among the most muscular animals on the earth and they eat almost exclusively bananas and other fruit. Same goes for bisons or other cattle who eat only grass and herbs.
First of all, not everybody who doesn't eat meat is a vegan. Especially the Vitamin B12 part is a common error. Cow Milk, Soy Sauce, Ginger and most Vegetables still contain Vitamin B12. Nori, Cheese and Yolk even have a higher content of Vitamin B12 than pork does.
[source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12#Sources]
Second, despite such claims as "vegans and vegetarians have issues obtaining enough protein, calcium and vitamin B12" there are simply no known instances of this actually happening to a vegetarian due to the lack of his meat input and no case is known of any other health problem based on that. I can't speak for vegans because I'm not one but that's kind of besides the point. The question is about meat, not other products related to animals and it's pretty clear that meat is neither beneficial nor necessary for the human body. It's a stimulant but for our nutrition it's plain superfluous.
First of all, you claimed that a muscular build was not beneficial for evolution and I proved you wrong on that one. You're simply sticking to Carnivore and Omnivores, and you compared Gorillas (a different species) with the physique and diet of a human being, of course they need to eat different food to survive they're a different animal, same way that if you give a dog chocolate it dies.. Your body needs protein, plain and simple, there's no avoiding that fact. It's a macro-nutrient and a necessity in a balanced diet, hell a necessity for survival, I don't know why you brought up B-12 since I never mentioned it, and comparing Vitamins to Macro-Nutrients is absurd. You can go a couple weeks without eating vitamins and still be generally OK. If you go a couple weeks without ANY protein you'll suffer the symptoms rather quickly. And yes, it IS about animals and animal-based products, herbivores don't eat eggs. I'll give you milk and soy products, but Chicken, Fish, Eggs and Red meats are out of the question. You claim that we can live without those, yet I see no sources backing you up. I made the opposite statement, and gave plenty of sources.
Second of all:
I really hope you aren't being serious with this statement, this is either filled with blind jealousy, or just plain dumb.Do you really think Bruce Lee's bigger muscles would help him hunting? What would he do? Chase after a mammoth and beat it up until it's dead with his amazing powers because his muscles make so much more of a difference? Yeah ...
No.
He couldn't kill a mammoth, no matter how much muscle power he has. He couldn't kill anything with his bare hands and then proceed to eat it
Someone with Bruce Lee's build would be able to run faster, throw spears farther and with more power, have better reflexes and mental agility (bet you didn't know your nutrition affects your psyche as well), have better lung capacity, have more resistance to harsh conditions, more endurance, be able to swim more efficiently, climb mountains with more ease, have better resistance to pain, more strength to make weapons and fire arrows, better tuned senses, etc... Hunting isn't about killing an animal with your bare hands, and the fact that you claim that, even in an ironic way, makes you sound very uneducated. It is much more than that. If you really believe that you can have someone who has trained their body and nourished it properly and someone who hasn't trained and has nourished their body poorly, in a survival situation, and the both stand an equal chance of survival, then you're delusional. That's like claiming you can beat Usain Bolt at swimming or weightlifting. Sure sprinting is his specialty, but he's a well-rounded athlete, and he's in much better shape than you.