Anything Can Change! Chrom for SSB4 - Closing Remarks, and an Invitation

[samsparta21]

Chrom's chances seem high after seeing a new Fire Emblem stage added.

It just seems like a strange thing to show on the last Friday before E3 (foreshadowing?)

 

[Hong]

Chrom's chances seem high after seeing a new Fire Emblem stage added.

Yes. A non-specific Fire Emblem arena, a most shocking and unheard of addition to Smash Bros, absolutely changes everything we thought about Chrom's chances.

Undoubtedly so. It's not like Arena Ferox is the only arena in all of Awakening, and the Miiverse specifically refers to the arenas seen throughout the series in a variety of games...

... that are not Awakening.

 

[IronFish]

Chrom's chances seem high after seeing a new Fire Emblem stage added.

It just seems like a strange thing to show on the last Friday before E3 (foreshadowing?)

foreshadowing Robin

 

[True Blue Warrior]

In the scenario that Chrom ends up in the game as playable, how many people would you expect to end up struggling to see any differences between the FE characters and be all like:

Player1: Ha, prepare to meet Ike 's wrath!

Player 2: Ike? I thought you were playing Chrom

Player 1: No no I'm sure I'm using Ike. Check again

Player 3: You guys are blind. That is obviously Marth.

Player 1: So who's using Marth? Who is using Ike? Who is using Chrom?

Player 4: How am I suppose to know? Those three all look the same to me!

 

[Niko Mar]

Yes. A non-specific Fire Emblem arena, a most shocking and unheard of addition to Smash Bros, absolutely changes everything we thought about Chrom's chances.

Undoubtedly so. It's not like Arena Ferox is the only arena in all of Awakening, and the Miiverse specifically refers to the arenas seen throughout the series in a variety of games...

... that are not Awakening.

It's not like it specifically boosts Chrom's chances, but it essentially has that effect since Chrom is deemed the most likely for a variety of reasons. Having Ike and an FE stage revealed so randomly close to E3 feels like a set-up for something, so I'm pretty confident an FE newcomer is on their way (for me, it's Chrom).

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

In the scenario that Chrom ends up in the game as playable, how many people would you expect to end up struggling to see any differences between the FE characters and be all like:

Player1: Ha, prepare to meet Ike 's wrath!

Player 2: Ike? I thought you were playing Chrom

Player 1: No no I'm sure I'm using Ike. Check again

Player 3: You guys are blind. That is obviously Marth.

Player 1: So who's using Marth? Who is using Ike? Who is using Chrom?

Player 4: How am I suppose to know? Those three all look the same to me!

I'm pretty sure they'll all have moves and idle movements.

 

[fill]

In the scenario that Chrom ends up in the game as playable, how many people would you expect to end up struggling to see any differences between the FE characters and be all like:

Player1: Ha, prepare to meet Ike 's wrath!

Player 2: Ike? I thought you were playing Chrom

Player 1: No no I'm sure I'm using Ike. Check again

Player 3: You guys are blind. That is obviously Marth.

Player 1: So who's using Marth? Who is using Ike? Who is using Chrom?

Player 4: How am I suppose to know? Those three all look the same to me!

so i'm not a FE guy, but i understand marth and ike from the smash perspective, but if we got chrom, what kind of things would make him unique to those who arnt FE people. Im not saying he can't or shouldn't be in, just wondering. thanks in advance

 

[Citricide]

I'd like to see Chrom along with Marth and Ike. Hopefully with a unique moveset different from the other two.

 

[Hong]

It's not like it specifically boosts Chrom's chances, but it essentially has that effect since Chrom is deemed the most likely for a variety of reasons. Having Ike and an FE stage revealed so randomly close to E3 feels like a set-up for something, so I'm pretty confident an FE newcomer is on their way (for me, it's Chrom).

This unveil doesn't matter because I could have confidently bet my entire estate that a Fire Emblem stage would have been in the Wii U version of Smash Bros. There being a stage should be a surprise to nobody.

As it, to no surprise, is not an Awakening stage, the chances we have had for seeing a third representative have remain entirely unchanged.

 

[Niko Mar]

This unveil doesn't matter because I could have confidently bet my entire estate that a Fire Emblem stage would have been in the Wii U version of Smash Bros. There being a stage should be a surprise to nobody.

As it, to no surprise, is not an Awakening stage, the chances we have had for seeing a third representative have remain entirely unchanged.

>_>

The point isn't about whether or not there would be an FE stage, as that's a given. The point is about having revealed all of this necessary Fire Emblem stuff that would indefinitely exist within a newcomer's trailer, as the trailer's focus could then lie entirely on the new character. It being revealed right next to E3 would only suggest that they do plan on utilizing those assets in some way for that event (more than likely a newcomer, since we expect one from FE).

 

[Opossum]

I don't think the stage means too much. They would have just shown it in Chrom's trailer anyway with his reveal, like the Town/City, Wily Castle, Wii Fit Studio, and Pokemon League. Only Rosalina and Little Mac (partially) had their stages revealed beforehand.

 

[Niko Mar]

I don't think the stage means too much. They would have just shown it in Chrom's trailer anyway with his reveal, like the Town/City, Wily Castle, Wii Fit Studio, and Pokemon League. Only Rosalina and Little Mac (partially) had their stages revealed beforehand.

Shhhh, play it cool Opossum, we got dis in the bag.

Chrom4e3

 

[Pazzo.]

I don't think anyone is really writing off Chrom because he is a sword user.

1. He's another Lord...

2. Blue Hair

3. Perhaps not the best representation of the series, with Marth and Ike being not the same as Chrom, but similar.

4. No magic. Mages are a big part of FE.

Take your pick.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

1. He's another Lord...

2. Blue Hair

3. Perhaps not the best representation of the series, with Marth and Ike being not the same as Chrom, but similar.

4. No magic. Mages are a big part of FE.

Take your pick.

To respond to these counter arguments.

1. Eh, even among Lords, there are still those that are fundamentally different from Marth, such as Ike, Lyn, Micaiah, etc.

2. Blue hair is awesome.

3. Fair enough

4.True, but so is other weapons such as axes and lances.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Yet ANOTHER user who shows to the haters that Chrom can be unique. The tears! HOW I LOVE THE TASTE!

Still have zero motivations to support Wind Waker Marth.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Still have zero motivations to support Wind Waker Marth.

That's a new (and interesting) mocking nickname.

Also, you gotta have blue hair!

 

[Pazzo.]

To respond to these counter arguments.

1. Eh, even among Lords, there are still those that are fundamentally different from Marth, such as Ike, Lyn, Micaiah, etc.

2. Blue hair is awesome.

3. Fair enough

4.True, but so is other weapons such as axes and lances.

Number 3 summarizes my stance to this.

Fair enough.

 

[FlareHabanero]

That's a new (and interesting) mocking nickname.

Also, you gotta have blue hair!

Not my fault people are not learning their lesson from the past.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

What can I say, blue is the most common hair color in ALL Japanese fictional media. IF not, the most popular non-dark hair color.

 

[Kevandre]

I just picked up FE:A yesterday and it's awesome. I'm for sure a Chrom supporter now.

But this will severely hamper my Roy-fanboyism. How to have both in game? Lol

 

[Niko Mar]

Not my fault people are not learning their lesson from the past.

What are you going on about?

 

[Hong]

I just picked up FE:A yesterday and it's awesome. I'm for sure a Chrom supporter now.

But this will severely hamper my Roy-fanboyism. How to have both in game? Lol

I can't help but feel Chrom is the better of the two.

I hate that Roy is only liked for his appearance in Smash Bros. I can say this most assuredly because he is one of the least liked lords among people who have actually played the games.

Oh, yeah. Sure. Smash is a legit reason to like a character. We have folks like Sheik and Captain Falcon who are certainly more important as fighters than characters.

The difference being at least they are internationally-recognized and now recurring fighters. Roy is a step above a nobody. Chrom, for how redundant he is among the ranks for Marth and Ike, is at least adored internationally, some detractors aside. If Chrom appears in this game, people will be pining for him to return just because he was in a game for when Smash 6 rolls around. It's such a finicky value. I am 100% sure Chrom would be more appreciate by people for a single cumulative Smash appearance than Roy was, if they would only give him a chance.

Granted, both of them have a variety of reasons for not appearing regardless.

 

[Kevandre]

I can't help but feel Chrom is the better of the two.

I hate that Roy is only liked for his appearance in Smash Bros. I can say this most assuredly because he is one of the least liked lords among people who have actually played the games.

Oh, yeah. Sure. Smash is a legit reason to like a character. We have folks like Sheik and Captain Falcon who are certainly more important as fighters than characters.

The difference being at least they are internationally-recognized and now recurring fighters. Roy is a step above a nobody. Chrom, for how redundant he is among the ranks for Marth and Ike, is at least adored internationally, some detractors aside. If Chrom appears in this game, people will be pining for him to return just because he was in a game for when Smash 6 rolls around. It's such a finicky value. I am 100% sure Chrom would be more appreciate by people for a single cumulative Smash appearance than Roy was, if they would only give him a chance.

Granted, both of them have a variety of reasons for not appearing regardless.

I mainly liked Roy because I was good with him. If I had been better with Marth in Melee, I'd have not cared about Roy much. But, as you can see by my mains, I enjoy it when Sakurai hurts me emotionally...

If Chrom were to come in and have the same feel as Roy then I wouldn't miss him at all. People said Ike was a replacement but he totally wasn't.

I don't, however, want Chrom to play just like Roy because it wouldn't be right anyway.

FE:A is my first time playing a Fire Emblem game, so I can't say I'm super familiar with the other games at all

 

[FlareHabanero]

What are you going on about?

"This extremely similar character will have absolutely no relations to this other character and if you say otherwise you'll burn in hell. Every character will be unique, the other newcomers proves this!"

 

[Niko Mar]

"This extremely similar character will have absolutely no relations to this other character and if you say otherwise you'll burn in hell. Every character will be unique, the other newcomers proves this!"

What, it's true

 

[True Blue Warrior]

E3 will be here soon. That said, I wouldn't expect any FE newcomer there but at a later point pre-release.

 

[TumblrFamous]

I don't know, but I'm guessing we'll see FE rep at E3. Either Chrom or Robin. I'm not sure. But I am a fan of both, so I'd be thrilled to see either in.

 

[Banjodorf]

Frankly I'm hoping so, because I want to get on to the character moveset/matchup discussion phase, and so that people will stop coming into Chrom's thread and complaining about him/at us for supporting him.

Some people more than others.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Frankly I'm hoping so, because I want to get on to the character moveset/matchup discussion phase, and so that people will stop coming into Chrom's thread and complaining about him/at us for supporting him.

Some people more than others.

As long as the character's interesting, I'll be fine. I'm thrilled for the newcomers in two days.

 

[Opossum]

I'm pretty much in a "What newcomer(s) will be shown in addition to Pac-Man" mindset right now, haha.

I'm hoping for Chrom, but realistically there are 2 or 3 other newcomers I can feasibly see being shown before him.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

As much as I believe that Chrom will be in, I'm not super positive he'll be shown off at E3, but it's possible.

 

[Hong]

I don't know, folks. SMTxFE has a good chance of being at e3. A Fire Emblem newcomer trailer would be mighty tasty.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

"The stage is set for E3"? Isn't that kinda premature?

 

[False Sense]

"The stage is set for E3"? Isn't that kinda premature?

It's technically true.

 

[Banjodorf]

"The stage is set for E3"? Isn't that kinda premature?

Well, we've got the two vets, and a new stage. Whether or not there's a Chrom (or Robin) reveal, everything is set up for it.

 

[BluePikmin11]

http://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/27kv15/asked_matt_mercer_the_voice_actor_of_chrom_if_he/
Uh-oh?

He responded that he has not been contacted for the position for Chrom in the next Super Smash. However, he did answer what his final smash line would be and it be to confess his love for them with the "You are the wind at my back" line.

 

[Hong]

To quote myself:
I think it would be unreasonable to expect an honest response.

If he had done lines, he would have to respond with "no" regardless. Responding along the lines of "I can't say" may as well a confession, since if he had nothing to hide, he would have no reason to conceal information. It is better to lie to someone's face than breech an NDA. Especially if you can pad it with a joke to change the subject.

Lucario thing is a different matter since the character is public knowledge, unless I am unaware of some VA credit slipup that had occurred prior.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Has there even been VAs who lied about whether or not they have been contacted to play the role of a character before the character has been confirmed?

 

[N3ON]

I think it's a bit straw-graspy to assume he's lying, as people in such positions are familiar with giving non-answers, but this doesn't mean it's a definitive nail in the coffin or anything.

Though it's not a point in Chrom's favour.

 

[Hong]

I think it's a bit straw-graspy to assume he's lying, as people in such positions are familiar with giving non-answers

Doesn't change the fact it's the most logical choice for a response. (・ω・)