Anything Can Change! Chrom for SSB4 - Closing Remarks, and an Invitation

[guedes the brawler]

it's just so awful that lucina has a slot all for herself... Sakuria might refuse to add Chrom just cause Fe has 4 characters already.

couldn't he have made Dark Pit or Dr. Mario to replace that cut character...?

 

[Pokechu]

it's just so awful that lucina has a slot all for herself... Sakuria might refuse to add Chrom just cause Fe has 4 characters already.

couldn't he have made Dark Pit or Dr. Mario to replace that cut character...?

There wasn't a cut character. That was a mis-translation.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

that's not what i was talking about. the references are nice, but that's not the point

the most notable parts of awakening's gameplay are mostly ignored: Pair-up (which is just a final smash instead of something that's always on) and skills (of which we haven't seen yet. maybe they are custom moves, but other spells sound more likely)

Aw, poodle. Did your favorite FE game not get represented in exactly the way you wanted it to?

Get over it.

(Just for the record, I have nothing against Chrom fans who just like the character and want him in the game. I don't really get what people see in him, but whatever. )

However, the idea that Sakurai is committing some sort of injustice against Awakening by not including Chrom or this-or-that mechanic is just selfish and whiny. Especially when there is an entire "sub-series" of FE games that has gotten jack s*** in terms of meaningful representation in Smash. Christ, Awakening is the only game in the series to get a non-generic location as a stage. Not to mention that, y'know, it has two freaking characters and probably a ton of other content like music and trophies.

Just to make sure that this doesn't get misconstrued as me bashing Chrom supporters, let me reiterate that I have nothing against people who just like Chrom and/or feel that Sakurai was un fair to him/judged him too quickly. I don't agree with you, but whatever. There's no accounting for personal taste.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

However, the idea that Sakurai is committing some sort of injustice against Awakening by not including Chrom or this-or-that mechanic is just selfish and whiny. Especially when there is an entire "sub-series" of FE games that has gotten jack s*** in terms of meaningful representation in Smash.

Actually, I wonder how what should be used to represent that part of the series.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Actually, I wonder how what should be used to represent that part of the series.

At least a trophy would be nice.

Christ, they didn't even get a sticker in Brawl. Even Gaiden (a game with almost no artwork for most of its characters) got stickers (IIRC). (I stand corrected. Gaiden did not get stickers in Brawl.) You'd think that a little bit of recycled artwork wouldn't be too much to ask for the game that invented the f***ing weapon triangle.

 

[guedes the brawler]

There wasn't a cut character. That was a mis-translation.

eh, that was a very lengthy mistranslation, then. what was that all about, if it's wrong?

anyways, people, one thing we ought to focus on is how Chrom's model is already done and ready to go, making him a less expensive DLC than other characters could be.

I think having Chrom from the "bad" timeline would be interesting, and we wouldn't even NEED an alt for Robin's FS... cause they are different Chroms.

 

[Skyblade12]

eh, that was a very lengthy mistranslation, then. what was that all about, if it's wrong?

anyways, people, one thing we ought to focus on is how Chrom's model is already done and ready to go, making him a less expensive DLC than other characters could be.

I think having Chrom from the "bad" timeline would be interesting, and we wouldn't even NEED an alt for Robin's FS... cause they are different Chroms.

So is every Pokéball Pokémon and every Assist Trophy. Most of them already even have some move animations.

There's a lot more than that to making a character, though.

 

[guedes the brawler]

So is every Pokéball Pokémon and every Assist Trophy. Most of them already even have some move animations.

There's a lot more than that to making a character, though.

ATs have less detailed models (which include pasted-together fingers), and i'd wager so do pokemons; compare AT screenshots with the Chrom one on Robin's page and you will get it.


sure, there is more, but this is something they don't need to worry about at least



I think Chrom could, maybe, use the Fire Emblem itself (which is, by far, the most important element of FEA; as well as generally the series even if the Fe is different between each game) in some form; perhaps even utilizing the abilities from one or more of the gemstones (as seen in Marth's games)

 

[False Sense]

I think having Chrom from the "bad" timeline would be interesting, and we wouldn't even NEED an alt for Robin's FS... cause they are different Chroms.

...Isn't the Chrom from the "bad" timeline kind of dead? Isn't that one of the main reasons the "bad" timeline is bad?

 

[True Blue Warrior]

...Isn't the Chrom from the "bad" timeline kind of dead? Isn't that one of the main reasons the "bad" timeline is bad?

Yes.

Chrom's Corpse Chrompetes in the Chrompetition!

He now uses the stench emitting from his decaying body to destroy your nasal senses! Now who is the most unique FE rep, now, huh?

 

[guedes the brawler]

...Isn't the Chrom from the "bad" timeline kind of dead? Isn't that one of the main reasons the "bad" timeline is bad?

we just take him before he dies!

hey, we had young Link and adult Link co-existing in the same game, and theorically, Ike and Marth ought to be long dead if Robin and Lucina are up and about.

As long as the invitation letter arrives before Robin is mind controlled...

 

[Skyblade12]

we just take him before he dies!

hey, we had young Link and adult Link co-existing in the same game, and theorically, Ike and Marth ought to be long dead if Robin and Lucina are up and about.

As long as the invitation letter arrives before Robin is mind controlled...

Given that Chrom's death was one of the major triggers for the bad timeline (if not THE trigger), I think pulling him out of the timeline altogether is not a wise idea.

 

[False Sense]

Chrom's Corpse Chrompetes in the Chrompetition!

I believe this was made to celebrate Chrom getting into Smash.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I believe this was made to celebrate Chrom getting into Smash.

Kepp the puns Chroming!

 

[guedes the brawler]

Given that Chrom's death was one of the major triggers for the bad timeline (if not THE trigger), I think pulling him out of the timeline altogether is not a wise idea.

Because pulling both Mario and Luigi from the M.kingdom and leaving Bowser alone with Peach in smash 64 was brilliant.

 

[Skyblade12]

Because pulling both Mario and Luigi from the M.kingdom and leaving Bowser alone with Peach in smash 64 was brilliant.

To be fair, it did cause Bowser to kidnap Peach again. As though he needed any incentive.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

@ Robert of Normandy I'm so happy someone agrees with me on Jugdral not getting any ounce of love in Smash. Most people (including me) herald it as one of the biggest highlights of quality and craft in FE-series. And the music just asks for getting rearranged due how majestic and medieval fantasy it is..

Sorry for that off-topic, but it had to be said. I hope we get some of that Jugdral in WiiU-version.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

@ Robert of Normandy I'm so happy someone agrees with me on Jugdral not getting any ounce of love in Smash. Most people (including me) herald it as one of the biggest highlights of quality and craft in FE-series. And the music just asks for getting rearranged due how majestic and medieval fantasy it is..

Indeed. While I don't think either FE4 or 5 are the best in the series, they're better than Awakening they both helped develop FE into it's modern form with things like the Weapon Triangle, multiple objectives, skills, rescue, AS loss bufferin, and stealing OH WAIT. It's a crying shame they haven't gotten more love in Smash.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Indeed. While I don't think either FE4 or 5 are the best in the series, they're better than Awakening they both helped develop FE into it's modern form with things like the Weapon Triangle, multiple objectives, skills, rescue, AS loss bufferin, and stealing OH WAIT. It's a crying shame they haven't gotten more love in Smash.

Yeah, they're quite a development point in the series. I personally like FE4 from what I've played - though I really need to get back on clearing it fully sometime.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Yeah, they're quite a development point in the series. I personally like FE4 from what I've played - though I really need to get back on clearing it fully sometime.

FE4 is good, but it has its issues. The ridiculously big maps are interesting but cause a lot of trouble, namely that the game is even more mount dominated than usual. Some of the maps can be a chore to get across (looking at you, Chaper 2). The various holy weapons are kinda OP as well.

My brief experience with FE5 was more frustrating than fun, though I do enjoy the atmosphere of desperation that the game builds.

Oh wait this is the Chrom thread UH SOMETHING SOMETHING DAMN KIDS SOMETHING SOMETHING MOUSEPAD BLAH BLAH zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....

 

[Deleted member]

I believe this was made to celebrate Chrom getting into Smash.

It was actually.

 

[Opossum]

So after an entire night of trying to get it to work, it'll still take a while it looks like.

I guess I can just say it now. There's essentially a changing of the guard. Lately I've been neglecting the movement due to college coming up and me having more things in my personal life to take care of. Therefore, I have elected a new leader of the movement. I will still man the thread here, but someone else (they know who they are) is going to take charge of the movement on the wordpress and twitter sites, while I do more behind the scenes work.

I hope you guys didn't get too hyped. I just wanted to inform you when the new person was able to take over, but I'm still working on the technical aspects of that. Hopefully the new manager should take control within a week.

 

[guedes the brawler]

well, ok. just come back for the speeches once in a while.

 

[Robertman2]

eh, that was a very lengthy mistranslation, then. what was that all about, if it's wrong?

anyways, people, one thing we ought to focus on is how Chrom's model is already done and ready to go, making him a less expensive DLC than other characters could be.

I think having Chrom from the "bad" timeline would be interesting, and we wouldn't even NEED an alt for Robin's FS... cause they are different Chroms.

"Bad" Timeline Chrom as a playable character? I can't wait to play as lifeless corpse!

 

[guedes the brawler]

"Bad" Timeline Chrom as a playable character? I can't wait to play as lifeless corpse!

doesn't need to be when he'd dead.

come on people, it doesn't take a lot of neurons to get what i'm talking about here...

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I suppose I'll get my chance another day...

 

[False Sense]

doesn't need to be when he'd dead.

come on people, it doesn't take a lot of neurons to get what i'm talking about here...

It just seems like an unnecessarily complicated explanation to get some form of Chrom playable, to be honest. Basically, it would be like "Introducing a new DLC fighter, Chrom! This Chrom is actually from a different timeline entirely than the Chrom that appears in Robin's Final Smash, and he actually dies in that timeline. But this Chrom is from before all that happens, so that's why he's still alive."

 

[Robertman2]

Just replace Chrom with Alfonzo if DLC Chrom is being played.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Just replace Chrom with Alfonzo if DLC Chrom is being played.

When Chrom is fighting, Alfonzo gets his chance another day.
Alfonzo (weakly): Leave it to me....

 

[guedes the brawler]

It just seems like an unnecessarily complicated explanation to get some form of Chrom playable, to be honest. Basically, it would be like "Introducing a new DLC fighter, Chrom! This Chrom is actually from a different timeline entirely than the Chrom that appears in Robin's Final Smash, and he actually dies in that timeline. But this Chrom is from before all that happens, so that's why he's still alive."

it's just to avoid messing with Robin's FS, making Chrom less of a hassle to make.

all these details can be kept to his Trophy

 

[Robertman2]

When Chrom is fighting, Alfonzo gets his chance another day.
Alfonzo (weakly): Leave it to me....

Ahh... That line made it so I could never take Chrom seriously again..

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Who is the new person in charge?

 

[Opossum]

Who is the new person in charge?

As I said, I'll say that when everything's cemented.

Was liking that post necessary, @ False Sense ?

 

[andimidna]

lol False Sense going back and liking posts that ended up being wrong.

Oh well, I ain't salty. I'm glad I was wrong (no offense to others...heh)
I'll be maining Robin and Lucina. (2nd Brawl main is Marth)

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I wonder what the future of FE will get us, outside of the upcoming crossover? Will there be an Awakening sequel or will they be going on a new path, as usual?

 

[guedes the brawler]

ah, i'm sure they will at least stick to the same cast of kid characters...

 

[False Sense]

As I said, I'll say that when everything's cemented.

Was liking that post necessary, @ False Sense ?

What's "that" post?

 

[Opossum]

What's "that" post?

We discussed it already.

 

[False Sense]

We discussed it already.

Still don't know which exact post "that" was.

 

[Morian]

ah, i'm sure they will at least stick to the same cast of kid characters...

But the hair is a problem. I don't want default kids without both of his parents.