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but as i said, it's horribly unfitting. it's not what Chrom wants to be, unless you want to have Chrom fighting with staves while in a dress; which is about the elvel of what Rosalina's gimmick has her.
My argument isnt x dindnt get moveset so why should chrom. My argument is if you're gonna have a moveset that's a stretch. At least stretch for the people that didnt get anything, as opposed to the guy who needs to be a strech in order to be anything other than Fire emblem's Wolf (From the installment wich already has half the Fire emblem reps dedicated to it!). Second of all What is the point of you're second argument? Half the scenarios dont even make any sense sinse A) Alm has Falchion as a signuture weapon. And B) Leif doesn't even have aether!
First of all, the scenarios arent even comparable. We are saying that chrom should'int be in because we: All ready have enough blue haired sword wielding characters(3), Think Awakening itself has enough reps, Think another fire emblem character should get the spotlight. A proper analogie would be:"Why have Funky Kong when i can have K ROOLL" Also, how is rosalina fighting with her children more out of characters than chrom not only using classes that dont suit his personality, or skills but switching in between them without a second seal.
because those are abilities Chrom uses in-game. Chrom is in the wrong class? isn't Mario also using stuff with no power-up?
I dont remember anyone saying chrom trained with a bow anywhere, heck no one uses their non class related weaons of mount unless in said class.
No. I don't think Sakurai Hates Chrom. I think he simply doesn't see his true potential. I think that Sakurai wanted to get him in at first but saw Robin as a more viable choice. Which I agree with. Robin is a VERY diverse character. This being said, I still think Chrom's abilities might have been overshadowed by Robin's diversity. As for spreading the moveset, Translating it into Japanese would be the first step. Honestly, by the time Smash five comes out, I think people might have forgoten about Chrom. Well. Besides us of course. I don't think there will be another fire emblem about him. So I think his chances of getting in a later instalment of the smash series is pretty slim. I can only hope for DLC, or by some miracle a Secret Character (somehow).
I think Sakurai does care about Chrom. He even explained why he wasn't added. He felt it was necessary to clear up, and said that he naturally thought of Chrom first when thinking about an Awakening rep. Robin being a swordsman with magic spells appealed more to him and he knew it would also appeal more to the general audience, being aesthetically different from other characters. That being said, Chrom can have a unique moveset and it's not Chrom's fault that Marth and Ike already exist. Robin just stands out more and the development team didn't want to waste time making two Awakening reps (Lucina doesn't cost as much time).
he does seem to have a large distaste for Chrom considering the character's treatment. looking back at Chrom's deconfirmation, he was on the ground, beaten up and weak the entire time. And when the line of him possibly being in "another day", he was just chucked in as a FS which, I assume, isn't what any kind of major-character fan truly wants. Sakurai didn't need to put in that final bit.
A really good point I'd want to believe. However, at the end, it made Chrom not be taken seriously as a videogame character anymore to most of the fandom - the way he did handle it basically fueled for the current on-going impression that Chrom officially "sucks".
It's worth remembering this isn't the last time we'll see Chrom, assuming SMTxFE isn't vaporware.
Now, to be fair, the whole "Chrom is a loser" thing actually existed before Robin's reveal. Obviously, Robin's reveal added on to it much further, but it definitely was a somewhat recurring joke among those who played Awakening for quite some time before the reveal.
I really hope so for that, but at the moment, I'm just afraid that Super Smash Bros's massive influence on a lot Nintendo's moves with promoting or developing games might dictate Chrom's fate beyond our grasp as consumers and fans of him. And no, "anything can change" won't really help when it comes to making more money and sell more succesful games. If there'll be a situation where Chrom is considered for promotion over the FE-reps in Smash, then he'll be definitely shafted unless he's basically copy-paste in means of function from FE Awakening.
That is true- but right now, it's now the only thing people can think of him mostly, contrasting ironically with so much attention I.S gives to him in means of promotion and trying to give him any noticeable strengths. It creates detractors with the reasonings on him being "bland" and the newcomers to Awakening viewing his attention as a lord as forced and maybe even irritating - at best, very ironic on his status in Smash, something that the trailer tainted as very humiliating. I'm sure they would want to invest their attention on Robin or Lucina instead.
Cherche actually was a healer of some sort before; but both Cavalier and Archer are "nobility" classes, which is why Chrom has those as his re class options. all i was saying is that
A fair point.
Wait so you<re telling me that anna, the character that has been in almost every FE game since the first one using Einejhars(Wich can be used by virtually anyone.) something that she owns and gives to you at the end of apotheosis is more OC than Chrom using weapons from classes he normally doesn<t use( Barbarian.)
That's a good point, actually.
she has been in almost every game. as an extra who does nothing. she is not a main character in any games whatsoever. lol. And yes, it would be a big stretch because she could have a pure lance-based moveset, if you are talking about Apo!anna... there is no need to go that far when the default thing for her is unused.
She is playable, doesn't get her ass kicked (she WOULD get, but she didnt'), and wasn't victim of a bait-and-switch stunt
What "bait and switch"? She's the very first thing shown in the trailer.
i said she wasn't victim of a bait-and-switch. chrom was.
"Bait and switch": denoting a deceptive method of selling, by which customers, attracted to a store by sale items, are told either that the advertised bargain item is out of stock or is inferior to a higher-priced item that is available.
I dont understand your reasoning for Einenjhar anna to be Oc, She has Einenjhars and by game canon logic can use them.Are you telling me that it<s OC because she can be a pure lancer. Does that mean tha cjhrom should<int have any additional weapons because his main sword is falchion.
Anna is the optional superboss of the Apotheosis DLC, and she provides you with the Katarina Einherjar if you win the mission.
That was instantly brushed off, due Lucina getting widely praised for making it in as a playable, sometimes getting her fair share of being defended on her clone status.
Yeah, Lucina's malicious about it. That's why she's all "For my father". Because she's totally the one who knocked him down to take his place.
I'm actually still miffed at that trailer, because I think Captain Falcon is a massively overhyped wimp that my Lucina could have broken with ease. I also think that the trailer did a massive disservice to her character by portraying her as just "another helpless female".
Yeah. Because he is pitied. That's the point. Sakurai basically went "yeah, I'm sorry Chrom, I don't see you working here. We'll do what we can for you, make you a Final Smash bit". Sakurai took pity on the character, and the fans, and threw them a bone by including him in the trailer (and later, as a Final Smash). Because he knew that he was loved, and that people really wanted to see him in.
This cannot be said enough. Had the Gematsu leak never happened, everyone would view this very differently.
...I guess you are technically correct. It may not have broken new ground well, but it did bring a lot of new elements to the series.
It also didn't really help that even prior to the leak, Chrom was deemed by many to be a "shoo-in" for this game. Possibilities like Robin were often ignored or deemed impossible due to fairly arbitrary reasons. The almighty-and-absolute word of the Gematsu leak (along with a few other leaks) just further convinced people that Chrom was an inevitability.
True. I never heard the Gematsu leak until I came here (which was shortly after viewing the Robin reveal), and I myself considered Chrom the obvious choice. I discounted Robin because of the customizability (even male/female is an option). How happy I was to be wrong though. I was also very pleased to see Chrom getting acknowledged by Sakurai, and the thoughtful explanation of why he wasn't in-game. Something we never got before. Not even Mewtwo when he was cut in Brawl.
That's all true, really. I think the major difference now is that Sakurai "justifies" the sociopathic humor,blandess, immense idiotness and wimpiness, and pitying on Chrom, which in turn could lead it to be Chrom's all flaws being his most well-known traits, despite being promoted and marketed around until new FE rolls in. And I'd find that really unfortunate on falling on any character. Sakurai doesn't make it feel much awesome that Chrom's a Final Smash that much. I hope for some POTD where he talks about it and maybe reminds the fanbase that Chrom's still there, instead of huge notion that he must be still weeping on the ground in much pain due being ass-kicked by Falcon and getting deconfirmed. Chrom's supporters could now use a bit more positivity/bright look on him being at least not absent in the game (if plans were in motion for that originally) and also doing what he does best.
the mere fact that he was featured in that trailer, a trialer for smash bros newcomers, aoutomatically promotes him to that levle; but you are taking the term too literally.
By that logic, does that mean that Tom Nook and Doc Louis
I think he meant that Chrom is a relatively important character, one of the main playable characters, where as Tom Nook and Doc Luis not so. It's easy to assume Chrom would've been playable due to the situation, especially near the end when he had suddenly showed up again, leading some to believe he was about to get up and join the fight.
i think the balance board not, because people were too confused by what was going on to ever think about that. Tnook didn't give anything that was that deep; but people legitimately though he would get in because he saw the letter, so yeah.
None of that is indicative of Chrom's playability in Smash Bros. How important he was to Awakening doesn't matter. Nothing in the trailer indicated he was playable. His line clearly did reference him having a role in Smash Bros., and the "no, you'll get it today" clearly showed him in a non-playable role. There was no teasing for it, and, as with every other disconfirmed character, Nintendo immediately came out and confirmed he was non playable.
