Cheeseonastick
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I figured Lain would come out on top, didn't really have a clue past that. Nicely done Metal, making some money :D
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They're all recorded and Ripple is posting them (that includes all of the finals and semi-finals)!I didn't stay for any of the finals matches, wish I would've.
He invested $1000 into the tourney and got like 200 back... I feel bad for him. He was right to kick us.why did he kick brawl out of AR, just cause it didnt have a lot of entrants?
Yeah, the local competitive scene is much better off now that we can't host tournaments!Kurasa doesn't understand the smash scene and him loosing money is in a HUGE part his own fault. Him dropping smash is definitely going to be good for the local scene
This. TP, you obviously missed the whole point of what he was saying... he was saying we are better off hosting our own tournaments. L2Read?Future said:Everyone quiting: DON'T QUIT!!! local STL tourneys will still happen and the dumb **** that happened at this tourney won't. Kurasa doesn't understand the smash scene and him loosing money is in a HUGE part his own fault. Him dropping smash is definitely going to be good for the local scene and theres no reason to quit when everyone has a good time going to the tourneys.
Hosting our own tournaments > Aerial Rave > No tournaments.This. TP, you obviously missed the whole point of what he was saying... he was saying we are better off hosting our own tournaments. L2Read?
Man, what a ******. I deserve three shoutouts for letting you beat me.Well this was a small tourney but I feel it deserves some shoutouts (and Im doing it now when i have time cause I don't know if theres going to be a results thread and I work forever):
Think: thanks for running the tourney even though it wasn't exactly what you wanted. Keep running tourneys cause you're really good at it! See you around!
Ripple: Dude you really impressed me with how well you played at this tourney. Keep playing like this and give DK some rep. in real tourneys.
LeganBlack Panther: You lost to a yoshi man wtf is wrong with us we both do this **** every tourney ever =( both of us CAN and need to step it up.
Zoze: the friendlies we had were a lot of fun, thanks for not holding anything against me for being a **** and I hope to see you again.
Rauleen: Thanks for giving me a ride back home so I could hang out with you guys
Everyone quiting: DON'T QUIT!!! local STL tourneys will still happen and the dumb **** that happened at this tourney won't. Kurasa doesn't understand the smash scene and him loosing money is in a HUGE part his own fault. Him dropping smash is definitely going to be good for the local scene and theres no reason to quit when everyone has a good time going to the tourneys.
Oh **** no. Jeff didn't do this to himself. He got you guys a bonus pot, he got you guys your own, spacious room. Hell, I ****ing took time out of SF4 casuals to bring those heavy *** TVs into that room and get them set up for you guys.Well this was a small tourney but I feel it deserves some shoutouts (and Im doing it now when i have time cause I don't know if theres going to be a results thread and I work forever):
Think: thanks for running the tourney even though it wasn't exactly what you wanted. Keep running tourneys cause you're really good at it! See you around!
Ripple: Dude you really impressed me with how well you played at this tourney. Keep playing like this and give DK some rep. in real tourneys.
LeganBlack Panther: You lost to a yoshi man wtf is wrong with us we both do this **** every tourney ever =( both of us CAN and need to step it up.
Zoze: the friendlies we had were a lot of fun, thanks for not holding anything against me for being a **** and I hope to see you again.
Rauleen: Thanks for giving me a ride back home so I could hang out with you guys
Everyone quiting: DON'T QUIT!!! local STL tourneys will still happen and the dumb **** that happened at this tourney won't. Kurasa doesn't understand the smash scene and him loosing money is in a HUGE part his own fault. Him dropping smash is definitely going to be good for the local scene and theres no reason to quit when everyone has a good time going to the tourneys.
The tournament itself went perfectly smooth and was very enjoyable. It's just that the turnout sucked and led to large financial losses.So what all happened or should I say didn't happen this Saturday? Seems like bad blood?
How many came? I thought smash in STL was big?
I think about 20 came and played in the tournament. If that.This was some ****ed up **** you guys did to Jeff, real talk.
Oh **** no. Jeff didn't do this to himself. He got you guys a bonus pot, he got you guys your own, spacious room. Hell, I ****ing took time out of SF4 casuals to bring those heavy *** TVs into that room and get them set up for you guys.
You guys failed at supporting someone who REALLY wanted to support you guys, and then you talk **** about a $20 venue fee and saying he doesn't -understand- you guys? **** outta here, Brawl hasn't pulled near the numbers of SF4 since AR1, and he was right to consider dropping you guys. Then he said **** it, gave it a chance, and you guys still ****ed up.
Stop worrying about hosting your own tournaments and try to make it right to Jeff, I know the SF and Tekken players are working on donating some money to him. He's too nice to ask, and he's too nice to say this ****, so I'll say it myself..
Get your ****ing **** together, and stop acting like you were entitled to even being at the AR events in the first place. We ran your game because there was demand, now there's not, and you ***** about having no local tournies? Guess what? Be pissed at yourselves, your scene, your clique, because that **** was straight self destruction.
****ing scrubs.
edit: and **** homebrew, *****s, that's some more scrubby bull****. decide on a tournament standard and ****ing play it, jesus christ
i guess that's what we get for letting a bunch of petty kids in on a man's tournament
I'm just going to make one post about this.*stuff*
BBrawl is infinitely better than Brawl+, yeah. I have always said that. However, BBrawl is just as pointless as Brawl+, despite it being a lot "better"...Metal, from the second you posted "BBrawl and Brawl+ and the like" you had already missed the point. You really do know better than to group those things together. The real reasons for turnout are explained above anyway.
I know Jeff is an awesome as **** guy, and if I would've known I would've helped towards the fund of money he lost, but people that said they were coming didn't show, simple as that.This was some ****ed up **** you guys did to Jeff, real talk.
Oh **** no. Jeff didn't do this to himself. He got you guys a bonus pot, he got you guys your own, spacious room. Hell, I ****ing took time out of SF4 casuals to bring those heavy *** TVs into that room and get them set up for you guys.
You guys failed at supporting someone who REALLY wanted to support you guys, and then you talk **** about a $20 venue fee and saying he doesn't -understand- you guys? **** outta here, Brawl hasn't pulled near the numbers of SF4 since AR1, and he was right to consider dropping you guys. Then he said **** it, gave it a chance, and you guys still ****ed up.
Stop worrying about hosting your own tournaments and try to make it right to Jeff, I know the SF and Tekken players are working on donating some money to him. He's too nice to ask, and he's too nice to say this ****, so I'll say it myself..
Get your ****ing **** together, and stop acting like you were entitled to even being at the AR events in the first place. We ran your game because there was demand, now there's not, and you ***** about having no local tournies? Guess what? Be pissed at yourselves, your scene, your clique, because that **** was straight self destruction.
****ing scrubs.
edit: and **** homebrew, *****s, that's some more scrubby bull****. decide on a tournament standard and ****ing play it, jesus christ
i guess that's what we get for letting a bunch of petty kids in on a man's tournament
On the second statement, I don't really understand what you're getting at. "How the Smash community works."Kyle I never said Jeff deserved to loose money, I said it was mostly his own fault that he did. The competitive smash scene exists almost soley on smashboards. Someone that doesn't know about smashboards isn't going to travel from chicago to attend a SSBB tourney or pay 30 dollars to enter.
I think its cool that he allows us to use his shop for tourneys, but renting a $200 dollar+ room for a smash tourney that you aren't going to advertise on smashboards or even check if it is being hyped on smashboards shows Jeff doesn't understand how the smash community works.
This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about... the community is NOT heavily divided.Kurasa said:Unfortunately your community is heavily divided and not the sole focus of a major event like AR2.
Even if they know about Smashboards, that doesn't mean they've heard about the tournament. Also, Chicago did rep and the guys that made the trip don't post here. There is also the local promotions to consider. I had 6 guys, that don't post here, come out to rep Scott Air Force Base. There was Dark Kakashi and Kevin that came down from Chicago. Hell 40% of the tournament was guys that don't care to grace Smash Boards with their presence. But whatevs...I guess I don't understand the community.Kyle I never said Jeff deserved to loose money, I said it was mostly his own fault that he did. The competitive smash scene exists almost soley on smashboards. Someone that doesn't know about smashboards isn't going to travel from chicago to attend a SSBB tourney or pay 30 dollars to enter.
I think its cool that he allows us to use his shop for tourneys, but renting a $200 dollar+ room for a smash tourney that you aren't going to advertise on smashboards or even check if it is being hyped on smashboards shows Jeff doesn't understand how the smash community works.
I actually wasn't labeling you as a hater since you've attended just about every event. I actually consider you one of the true players in the community solely based on your placing highly at all of the AR minors and showing up to just about all of the events.Kurasa, since you didn't say anything to me directly, I'm going to assume that you've labeled me as a "hater", and if you really think that, I don't really mind... but please try to understand the issue here, because I don't think that you do.
You're a really cool guy and I appreciate all of the stuff you've done, but when I say that you don't understand the community, I mean that as literally and factually as possible.
This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about... the community is NOT heavily divided.
No one plays BBrawl... no one even plays Brawl+... there is a TINY handful of people running around hyping for no reason, as if these mods are the best thing since sliced bread, and all it's doing is confusing people who aren't familiar with the game (like yourself) from understanding what is actually going on. Thus, you don't understand the community.
I can't blame you, since all of these pointless mods and patches make it really difficult to figure out what is going on if you are new, but the fact is that none of them have any major success.
This Aerial Rave is the ONLY tournament ANYWHERE recently that has attempted to be a "major" or "serious" BBrawl tournament... EVER. It's just a shame that they get in the way every now and then and muck things up for people who don't know any better.
The last Aerial Rave Minor that I got 1st place at also suffered from "HEY GUYS, LET'S MAKE THIS BBRAWL AND NOT TELL ANYONE, SURPRISE!"
The only reason that it ended up being "normal" Brawl (as it should have been and was advertised) was because I made everyone state whether they would rather play REAL Brawl or the "modded" version. More than 90% of the votes were for normal Brawl... as expected... most people didn't even know what BBrawl was and were confused and uninterested in trying it, and those who did know what it was mostly were completely uninterested.
The above is the major issue, but Future's point of not properly making a Smashboards thread is also a big part of why you are not hitting home with the Smash community. If it's not posted and supported and well outlined here, you will not see attendance.