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Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

JustCallMeJon

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Gonna list the upsets in this page rn:

GOML's 2018 Upsets:

Lets Tickle:4corrinf: 2-0 ANTi:4mario::4cloud2::4zss:
Strike:4sheik: 3-0 Venom:4ryu:
Blanc:4wendy: 3-0 Blank:4sheik:
Gluttony:4wario: 3-2 Fatality:4falcon:
komorikiri:4cloud2::4sonic: 3-1 Dabuz:rosalina:
Zinoto:4diddy:3-0 ESAM :4pikachu::4samus:
SDX:4mewtwo:3-2 Ally:4mario:
Samsora :4peach::rosalina: 3-1 WaDi:4mewtwo::4rob:
ANTi:4mario::4cloud2::4zss: 3-1 Fatality :4falcon:
Locus :4ryu::4bayonetta: 3-2 Charlie :4fox::4bayonetta:
NAKAT :4fox::4ness: 3-2 Captain L:4pikachu::4jigglypuff:
Locus :4ryu::4bayonetta: 3-1 MVD:4diddy:
Gluttony :4wario: 3-2 DSS:4metaknight:
ESAM :4pikachu::4samus: 3-0 falln:rosalina:
SDX :4mewtwo: 3-0 WaDi:4mewtwo::4rob:
Locus :4ryu::4bayonetta:3-2 ESAM:4pikachu::4samus:
SDX :4mewtwo:3-1 NAKAT :4fox::4ness:
Mistake :4bayonetta2: 3-2 Tweek:4bayonetta::4cloud2:
Lima :4bayonetta: 3-1 Larry Lurr :4fox::4diddy::4sheik:
 
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falln :rosalina: 3-0 THUNDER :4ryu: :4cloud2:, with an unfortunate ending, with THUNDER's Cloud dying to Rosalina's down tilt at 30%. Only Locus from what I'm aware of remains for Ryu.
 

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I have never seen anyone tackle (no pun intended) the Pikachu matchup the way Zinoto has. A 3-0 victory over ESAM.
 

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Doing the same as Jon, I am reposting this.

[Moved to the next page... again]

GOML 2018 (A Tier) (446 Entrants) (Of course, going to be updated)

1st:
2nd:
3rd:
4th:
5th:
5th:
7th:
7th:
9th: SDX:4mewtwo:
9th: Zinoto:4diddy:
9th: Samsora:4peach::rosalina:
9th: Locus:4ryu:
13th: NAKAT:4fox::4ness:
13th: Elegant:4luigi:
13th: Glutonny:4wario:
13th: ESAM:4pikachu:
17th: WaDi:4mewtwo:
17th: Captain L:4pikachu:
17th: Strike:4sheik:
17th: MVD:4diddy:
17th: Blacktwins:4cloud2::4mario:
17th: DSS:4metaknight:
17th: ANTi:4mario:
17th: falln:rosalina:
25th: Fatality:4falcon:
25th: LetsTickle:4corrinf:
25th: Charlie:4fox::4bayonetta2::4metaknight:
25th: Blush:4falcon:
25th: Ally:4mario:
25th: THUNDER:4ryu:
25th: blanc:4wendy:
25th: Venom:4ryu:

Notable Players Out Earlier:
33rd: Z:4mewtwo:
33rd: K9sbruce:4diddy::4sheik:
33rd: Meru:4peach:
33rd: Scot!:4luigi:
33rd: Blank:4sheik:
33rd: Glare:4bayonetta2:
33rd: Deathorse:4mewtwo::4wario2:
33rd: Smokk:4diddy:
33rd: V115:4zss:
49th: SuperGirlKels:4sonic:
49th: Big D:4mario::4falcon:
49th: Poke:4luigi:
49th: Alphicans:4wiremac:
65th: Kiraflax:4pit::4darkpit:
65th: Firefly:4yoshi:
65th: VoiD:4sheik: (DQ'ed)
257th: Angel Cortez:4diddy: (DQ'ed)
257th: Cosmos:4corrinf: (DQ'ed)
257th: Mr. R:4sheik: (DQ'ed)
257th: pu55yk1ng:4littlemac: (DQ'ed)


GOML 2018 Doubles (119 Entrants)
1st: Elegant:4luigi:SuperGirlKels:4sonic:
2nd: MKLeo:4cloud2:Mistake:4bayonetta2:
3rd: Samsora:4peach:ANTi:4mario:
4th: ESAM:4pikachu:MVD:4cloud::4diddy:
5th: VoiD:4sheik:NAKAT:4ness:
5th: Glutonny:4wario:Meru:4peach:
7th: Smokk:4diddy::4cloud:Venom:4ryu:
7th: Fatality:4falcon:WaDi:4mewtwo:
9th: Glare:4bayonetta2:Blacktwins:4cloud2:
9th: Vapor:4bayonetta::4corrin:Asprey:4cloud2::4dk:
9th: Tweek:4cloud2::4bayonetta2:Nairo:4lucina:
9th: Strike:4sheik:Dunkmaster Ragna:4ryu:
13th: K9sbruce:4sheik:KiraFlax:4pit:
13th: Lima:4bayonetta2:Akashi:4cloud:
13th: THUNDER:4ryu:Chris Fisch:4diddy:
13th: Firefly:4yoshi: Big D:4mario:


Battle Arena Melbourne 10 (C Tier) (187 Entrants)
1st: Extra:4gaw:
2nd: Ghost:4bayonetta:
3rd: Tru4:4shulk:
4th: Sriks:4luigi:
5th: Nature Boy:4fox::4dk::4megaman:
5th: Linoone:4bayonetta:
7th: Big Snug:4ryu:
7th: Duon:4fox:
9th: Luco
9th: Jdizzle:4tlink:
9th: DefectiveDagger
9th: Ignis
 
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Nairo :4zss: 3-0 Captain L :4jigglypuff::4pikachu:. The Jigglypuff came out again, and Nairo struggled to land any N-airs, as Captain L crouched.
 
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MkLeo :4marth: 3-0 Lima :4bayonetta:. The Bayo slayer takes yet another victory to move on in winners. Have to admit though, I would love to see Komorikiri take his first major.

Samsora :rosalina::4zss: 3-1 WaDi :4mewtwo::4rob: in a set full of counterpicks. Samaora interestingly shows he can play top tier blonde females very well. He advances in winners.

ANTi :4mario: 3-1 Fatality :4falcon: to make it to top 24 tomorrow! At this point, he has earned it, but this has been a lackluster showing from Fatality in quite a while.
 
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Samsora:rosalina::4zss: WaDi:4mewtwo::4rob: 3-1
ANTi:4mario:Fatality:4falcon: 3-1




What to expect tomorrow:

Winner's
MKLeo:4marth::4cloud2: vs Zinoto:4diddy:
Tweek:4cloud2::4bayonetta2: vs Mistake:4bayonetta2:
Nairo:4zss: vs Larry Lurr:4fox:
komorikiri:4cloud2: vs Samsora:4peach::rosalina:

Loser's
WaDi:4mewtwo: vs SDX:4mewtwo:
Captain L:4pikachu: vs NAKAT:4ness::4fox:
Glutonny:4wario: vs DSS:4metaknight:
Dabuz:rosalina:vs Strike:4sheik:
Elegant:4luigi: vs Blacktwins:4cloud2::4mario:
Lima:4bayonetta2: vs ANTi:4mario::4cloud:
ESAM:4pikachu: vs falln:rosalina:
MVD:4diddy: vs Locus:4ryu:

See you there!:)
 
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Samsora:rosalina::4zss: WaDi:4mewtwo::4rob: 3-1
ANTi:4mario:Fatality:4falcon: 3-1




What to expect tomorrow:

Winner's
MKLeo:4marth::4cloud2: vs Zinoto:4diddy:
Tweek:4cloud2::4bayonetta2: vs Mistake:4bayonetta2:
Nairo:4zss: vs Larry Lurr:4fox:
komorikiri:4cloud2: vs Samsora:4peach::rosalina:

Loser's
WaDi:4mewtwo: vs SDX:4mewtwo:
Captain L:4pikachu: vs NAKAT:4ness::4fox:
Glutonny:4wario: vs DSS:4metaknight:
Dabuz:rosalina:vs Strike:4sheik:
Elegant:4luigi: vs Blacktwins:4cloud2::4mario:
Lima:4bayonetta2: vs ANTi:4mario::4cloud:
ESAM:4pikachu: vs falln:rosalina:
MVD:4diddy: vs Locus:4ryu:

See you there!:)
Now I wish Ally had not been eliminated earlier. He does pretty well against WaDi, and he probably would have lasted, but who knows? Mistake, Strike, Captain L, Locus and Blacktwins keep Canada's hopes and dreams alive, and hey, Locus is doing really well right now!
 
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I am going to predict who win each set.
MKLeo:4marth::4cloud2: vs Zinoto:4diddy:: Normally I would say that Leo wins this, but Zinoto has defeated Leo at their last encounter at Midwest Mayhem. It is anybody's guess.
Tweek:4cloud2::4bayonetta2: vs Mistake:4bayonetta2:: Tweek is so proficient at the Bayo matchup, so I would say that he would take this.
Nairo:4zss: vs Larry Lurr:4fox:: Extremely volatile. However, the way Larry has been playing recently, I would put my money on Nairo for this one.
komorikiri:4cloud2: vs Samsora:4peach::rosalina:: I really don't see how Samsora is going to win this one tbh. Both Peach and Rosalina have an uncomfortable matchup against Cloud, and versus one of the best Clouds in the business...
WaDi:4mewtwo: vs SDX:4mewtwo:: I have no idea how Mewtwo dittos go. I would have to go with WaDi due to simply being the all-around superior player.
Captain L:4pikachu: vs NAKAT:4ness::4fox:: I don't really see how Captain L is going to take this one. Unlike BestNess, NAKAT has a Puff himself so he isn't going to be affected by matchup inexperience as much.
Glutonny:4wario: vs DSS:4metaknight:: Don't know. Anybody's guess.
Dabuz:rosalina:vs Strike:4sheik:: Unless Strike does crazy stuff, Dabuz is going to win this.
Elegant:4luigi: vs Blacktwins:4cloud2::4mario:: Hard to say. Normally I would way Elegant due to being an all-around superior player, but the Cloud vs Luigi matchup though.
Lima:4bayonetta2: vs ANTi:4mario::4cloud:: Don't exactly know, but I think I am going to put my money on ANTi for this one.
ESAM:4pikachu: vs falln:rosalina:: Another volatile matchup. Honestly have no clue who will take this one.
MVD:4diddy: vs Locus:4ryu:: I personally think MVD is the favorite to win this one, but Ryu can do some shenanigans.
 

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I noticed that fatality has an extremely inconsistent record one tournament he is destroying everyone and getting 7th-4th the next he is getting 13th-25th
it's worth noting he went game 5 with Gluto, who he's played and narrowly lost to before as well, and according to chat got hit with a lock setup first stock of game 5.
Not to mention the set with anti was close as well.
also worth noting that his track record has become MUCH more consistent. The last time he got less than top 8 at a big event was Genesis 5 where he placed 17th. He's top 8'ed Frostbite, SML battle for vegas, and king of springs 3, getting top 5 at all of those.
He has 2 wins over salem, a win over dabuz, a win on larry, one on wadi, 2 over cosmos, and one on samsora.
He's practically guaranteed a top ten placing this season.

I'd say it's actually more like him being inconsistent from season to season. Did super well a year ago, dropped a bit last season, but is back on his feet this season.
 

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ESAM:4pikachu: vs falln:rosalina:: Another volatile matchup. Honestly have no clue who will take this one.
Almost positive this will go in ESAM's favor. ESAM has a decent record against Dabuz and has beaten falln the only 2 times they've played (with one being at ESAM saga in early 2016), although ESAM has had issues with Kirihara.
 

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Lima:4bayonetta2: vs ANTi:4mario::4cloud:: Don't exactly know, but I think I am going to put my money on ANTi for this one.
on one hand, lima 3-0'ed ally earlier
one the other, anti also has cloud and zss
experience and gut instinct says anti's winning via cloud or zss unless lima does crazy stuff

would also bet on L beating nakat, L's been ramping up his skill level a lot lately.
 

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it's worth noting he went game 5 with Gluto, who he's played and narrowly lost to before as well, and according to chat got hit with a lock setup first stock of game 5.
Not to mention the set with anti was close as well.
also worth noting that his track record has become MUCH more consistent. The last time he got less than top 8 at a big event was Genesis 5 where he placed 17th. He's top 8'ed Frostbite, SML battle for vegas, and king of springs 3, getting top 5 at all of those.
He has 2 wins over salem, a win over dabuz, a win on larry, one on wadi, 2 over cosmos, and one on samsora.
He's practically guaranteed a top ten placing this season.

I'd say it's actually more like him being inconsistent from season to season. Did super well a year ago, dropped a bit last season, but is back on his feet this season.
those are all good points and yes I do agree his track record is much more consistent than last season but he has had is somewhat low placings like

17th at Genesis 4 (Probably the biggest event so far)
17th At EGLX 2018
25th At Get On My Level 2018

yes he will definitely be top 10 I just wanted to point out his record is more inconsistent that a lot of players
 

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those are all good points and yes I do agree his track record is much more consistent than last season but he has had is somewhat low placings like

17th at Genesis 4 (Probably the biggest event so far)
17th At EGLX 2018
25th At Get On My Level 2018

yes he will definitely be top 10 I just wanted to point out his record is more inconsistent that a lot of players
well, let's compare to other people this year:
ESAM's placings range from 13th (evo japan) to 1st (flatiron 3)
ANTi's range from 49th (EVO Japan) and 33rd(G5) to 2nd (take your pick of port priority and noods noods noods)
Larry Lurr ranges from 17th (g5) to 3rd (switchfest)
WaDi ranges from 13th (g5) to 2nd (mason vs mr e)
falln ranges from 13th at switchfest to 3rd at noods noods noods
taking into account pgr registered tournaments, fatality doesn't look that inconsistent in comparison to others.
 

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well, let's compare to other people this year:
ESAM's placings range from 13th (evo japan) to 1st (flatiron 3)
ANTi's range from 49th (EVO Japan) and 33rd(G5) to 2nd (take your pick of port priority and noods noods noods)
Larry Lurr ranges from 17th (g5) to 3rd (switchfest)
WaDi ranges from 13th (g5) to 2nd (mason vs mr e)
falln ranges from 13th at switchfest to 3rd at noods noods noods
taking into account pgr registered tournaments, fatality doesn't look that inconsistent in comparison to others.
ok that makes a lot of sense maybe fatality's records aren't that inconsistent
 

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well, let's compare to other people this year:
ESAM's placings range from 13th (evo japan) to 1st (flatiron 3)
ANTi's range from 49th (EVO Japan) and 33rd(G5) to 2nd (take your pick of port priority and noods noods noods)
Larry Lurr ranges from 17th (g5) to 3rd (switchfest)
WaDi ranges from 13th (g5) to 2nd (mason vs mr e)
falln ranges from 13th at switchfest to 3rd at noods noods noods
taking into account pgr registered tournaments, fatality doesn't look that inconsistent in comparison to others.
Flatiron 3 isn't PGR'ed.
 

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Mistake :4bayonetta2: 3-0 Elegant :4luigi: with one of the most anticlimactic finishes I have ever seen. He killed Elegant, then immediately spiked him about 5 seconds later to end him at 20%.
... And once Bayos learn how stupidly powerful Dair spiking is off stage we're in for a rough time. Bayo's meta has room to grow.
I told you guys: spiking is a very powerful underused tool.
 

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SDX (player from my region) 3-0 WaDi offstream (cause they crazy putting it offstream)
 

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I wonder why he did not go Ness in this battle tho? Hmm.
He did on game 3. It didn't end well.

Game 1 :4fox: vs :4pikachu: Fox Won (Forgot where they fought first)
Game 2 :4fox: vs :4pikachu: Pika Won (At FD now)
Game 3 :4ness: vs :4pikachu: Pika Won (Still at FD)
Game 4 :4lucas: vs :4pikachu: Lucas Won (Still at FD)
Game 5 :4fox: vs :4pikachu: Fox Won (At DL now)
 
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He did on game 3. It didn't end well.

Game 1 :4fox: vs :4pikachu: Fox Won
Game 2 :4fox: vs :4pikachu: Pika Won (At FD now)
Game 3 :4ness: vs :4pikachu: Pika Won
Game 4 :4lucas: vs :4pikachu: Lucas Won (Note: They are still at FD)
Game 5 :4fox: vs :4pikachu: Fox Won (At DL now)
NAKAT's Ness needs some warm up tho because this is an advantage MU. BestNess 3-0 Captain L and the only reason BestNess lose to Captain L is Jigg inexperience because Jigg is such a rare character. What is your anaylsis of how NAKAT's Ness could've done better?

(I know that L is pretty good at Ness/Mario MU but I just wanna know what he couldve done better?)
 
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NAKAT's Ness needs some warm up tho because this is an advantage MU. BestNess 3-0 Captain L and the only reason BestNess lose to Captain L is Jigg inexperience because Jigg is such a rare character. What is your anaylsis of how NAKAT's Ness could've done better?
Didn't really saw much of the match, since I was focused on the Dabuz vs Strike slaugherfest. He has to fight SDX now, which I have no clue what he will use.


UPDATE:


SDX vs WaDi 3-0

Also Locus beat ESAM 3-2

Also, if Nairo defeats Larry Lurr, Larry has to fight Locus at loser's. RIP Larry
 

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Zaki :4dedede: just registered for Hyrule Saga! That's another large event he will attend now!
 

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NAKAT's Ness needs some warm up tho because this is an advantage MU. BestNess 3-0 Captain L and the only reason BestNess lose to Captain L is Jigg inexperience because Jigg is such a rare character. What is your anaylsis of how NAKAT's Ness could've done better?
Idk man, watching L yesterday, he makes Ness's recovery look super free. L is very good at Ness & Mario MUs.
 
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