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Captain L is the more movement heavy of the two Pika mains. This combined with MKLeo (and other players like Mr. R and Javi) making some key mistakes in the matchup due to how rare the character is (aka Game & Watch syndrome), made it an icky experience for a spacing character.Which seemed unnecessary considering how hard he has boped ESAM before with.
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for those type of characters as well.
Oh okay that explains it. So it's basically like how Kirihara and Ranai have been in the past, some of the best in the world but barely attend so they're basically unranked?
Those two does attend a lot of tournaments during their primes. When they do, they usually make an impact. Ranai usually attends most American majors and large regionals, while Kirihara obtains strong results in Japan and make some impact when he does attend American tournaments (aside from EVO 2017).
(This is a funny coincidence.)
One game matches?? What the heck??Those two does attend a lot of tournaments during their primes. When they do, they usually make an impact. Ranai usually attends most American majors and large regionals, while Kirihara obtains strong results in Japan and make some impact when he does attend American tournaments (aside from EVO 2017).
Apparently two PGR C tier events showed up today and ended today.
Overloads of Orlando 2 (C Tier) (Florida) (47 entrants) (Why is this tournament counted?!?)
1st: GoblinMan
2nd: Nibble
3rd: Ugar
4th: Outlaw
5th: Minty
5th: Gramatix
7th: Strazzy
7th: Indigo
I am not even going to bother checking who each one of them mains.
Umeki Project (C Tier) (Japan)
1st: Kirihara
2nd: Umeki
3rd: Tsu-
4th: Mao
5th: kept
5th: KEN
7th: Eim
7th: Lea
9th: Gackt
9th: Raito
9th: huto
9th: Zackray
Interestingly, a lot of matches there were single game matches. Either that or the tournament organizers were lazy to record the precise outcome. I really don't know.
Opps. Apparently I got thrown off with the standings getting mixed with amateur bracket. Updating Overlords of Orlando.
salem finally won a pgr tournament but it is not enough1st: Salem
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Yeah, it was kind of a rush watching it live in a room full of people. I'd definitely recommend it.You &TDK too, apparently.
This is definitely treading on shaky ground, but someone (@|RK|?) mentioned a thread or two ago that Lucina's being smaller makes her range shift downwards enough to make a difference in certain matchups, I believe the example he gave being Lucina being able to jab a crouching Kirby while Marth can't. I think vs smaller, slipperier targets, Lucina benefits a lot more than Marth would because the smaller hurtbox characters are harder to tipper, but that's probably just conjecture on my part. Either way, seeing the best Marth player play Lucina was definitely cool.1 This is why I have a pocket
No I mean back when they were still considered really good but barely attended anything and so were considered "hidden boses" or whatever they're called.Those two does attend a lot of tournaments during their primes. When they do, they usually make an impact. Ranai usually attends most American majors and large regionals, while Kirihara obtains strong results in Japan and make some impact when he does attend American tournaments (aside from EVO 2017).
Apparently two PGR C tier events showed up today and ended today.
Overloads of Orlando 2 (C Tier) (Florida) (47 entrants)
1st: Salem
2nd: dyr
3rd: Sean
4th: Kiki
5th: RiotLettuce
5th: Manny
Umeki Project (C Tier) (Japan)
1st: Kirihara
2nd: Umeki
3rd: Tsu-
4th: Mao
5th: kept
5th: KEN
7th: Eim
7th: Lea
9th: Gackt
9th: Raito
9th: huto
9th: Zackray
Interestingly, a lot of matches there were single game matches. Either that or the tournament organizers were lazy to record the precise outcome. I really don't know.
That is what I meant by their primes. The PGR functioned a bit weirdly in the past. It seemed to bring benefits to those with peaks, rather than consistency, but I may be wrong.
Yeah. Most matchups that Lucina has a niche over Marth, are against non-relevant characters like Kirby. It is an option, but are probably better off conquering Marth's learning curve, unless your playstyle reflects Lucina better (like Mr. E).
You are heavily underestimating Salem, who typically gets his results when they really matter. Let us not forget he is an EVO winner and was threatening Zer0's previously uncontested throne in the PGR late last year.
there is one last big chance for him to get a high placing when it matters at Hyrule Saga
We are not underestimating his skill. It is just that his performance this season is not that good in spite of his success in v4 (especially in comparison to v4).
I agree with what you are saying he does have Hyrule sage to redeem himself and in the tournament he won there was not much competition
There is simply so much going down in Hyrule Saga: character tier placements (that I dicussed pages ago) and PGR placements for players.
it is possible for him to win Hyrule sage but with MKLeo Tweek and Dabuz there it is not likely I dought he will even be projected to get 4th
There's certainly some tough competition. It'll be interesting to see how Hyrule saga goes.
Me three, I have been to a few VSBs since I live in BC too (idk who these guys are irl though lol). If VSB wasn't so far from me to transit I'd go weekly...You &
I would say each tier list has been formed about a year and a possible additional half, so if there was one, we probably would need more time. Maybe the upcoming large events also would be impactful. Eh, I don't know much of this.
Ask Liberation.
Also,
First of all, he means a follow-up article, not another tier list (I assume).
it usually takes a year for a new list to be released or in melee's case 4 years
No, I meant the followup article, that usually takes a month to be released after the list's release. Melee's tier lists does not have anything to do with SSB4 tier lists anyways.
ok that makes sense
Great to see some Zelda reps at this tournament, there's going to be some interesting matchups for sure.Purple Guy
I disagree. Let's not forget that Zelda and Ganon are some of the worst characters in the game, so I anticipate none of them getting far. The more interesting wildcard here is Toon Link.
That has a lot to do with the complete lack of topics of discussion recently, so let me try this one more time: Why is Palutena so bad? What makes her worse than Charizard and Mac?
Palutena, despite having a good grab and jab, have mediocre ground moves. Her frame data in general is pretty mediocre, which is translated to her main KO moves (which is also burdened with awkward hitboxes). Her special moves without customs are among the worst of their kind (outside of Warp), and her frame, weight, and gravity makes her susceptible to combos/KOs.
Bad* ground moves. Also you forgot dash attack.
Up air, her main KO move, is frame 8 with a lingering hitbox, and dthrow>upair is a true kill confirm on the entire cast. Fsmash and Dsmash have bad frame data and hitboxes, yes, but they're not her main kill moves.
You're telling me the 13th best run speed and 14th best walk speed in the game isn't high mobility?
And Palutena isn't combo food, can actually land and get off ledge, and also has good mobility and grab game.
Literally 3 posts ago:
First of all, up air can only really hit above Palutena, and down throw to up air is only true if the opponent doesn't DI away (CPUs never does that). I never seen high level Palutena players attempt it since they know the opponent could avoid it.
I don't get it