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3rd Party ATs

CodeBlack

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Well, the recent Gray Fox has relieved a doubt I've been having: There are 3rd Party ATs in Brawl. The question is, how many, and who?

What do you think. How many 3rd Party AT's do you think they'll allow (I'm thinking 1 per franchise, but I hope not), and who do you think will be those trophies..?

For MGS we got Gray Fox, though I was hoping for Psycho Mantis...

From Sonic Team (yes, Sonic Team, not Sega), we have a huge amount of possibilities. Tails, Knuckles, Amy, maybe even NIGHTS...

So, what say ye?
 

Sariku

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There's been a thread on this already I think, but anyways.

For Sonic, being the huge Sonic Buff I am, it's a hard decision. If Sakurai wants to use a Character People know about, I see Knuckles or Tails coming along. But if he's gonna use a newer one, I think Blaze or Silver would also be nice.

Edit - Post 1800. FTW...
 

Xenesis

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A Psycho Mantis assist trophy would be fantastic.

And you know what it should do? Switch around which controller controls which character. Those who have played MGS shall know why. :)
 

sirmackerel

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I was also hoping for Psycho Mantis, but Gray Fox was second on my list for Metal Gear ATs.

As for Sonic, I'd much rather see Tails than Knuckles if each third party is only getting one AT.
 

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Saki from Sin and Punishment is already an assist trophy. That's a Treasure game. We got confirmation of this a long time ago.
 

Kelexo

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A Psycho Mantis assist trophy would be fantastic.

And you know what it should do? Switch around which controller controls which character. Those who have played MGS shall know why. :)
I kinda pictured he'd grab all the items near him, spin them around and then throw them at people. Switching the controls is classic but it's way too harsh on a player :p
 

NukeA6

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A Psycho Mantis assist trophy would be fantastic.

And you know what it should do? Switch around which controller controls which character. Those who have played MGS shall know why. :)
It would be funny in multiplayer. I could just play as my opponent and jump off the screen.
 

Masterem243

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I can see Tails being Sonic's AT. He'd grab onto you, which would give you a temporary gilding ability. I'm seeing a boss/tertiary character could also be Sonic's AT. Like Chaos or E-123 Omega.
 

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I think Metal Sonic would be a good AT. He would go around the stage shooting lazers and stuff. Knuckles would be also effective. He could slam the ground causeing everyone to fly. Or he can slam you in the ground and come over and wack you one. :laugh: Tails I don`t really see as a AT. Hes a lover not a fighter. But he will probly be in Sonics story more some how. But meh who knows. All I know is there will be other sonic ATs.
 

Tonic_Sonic

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tails has got to be the sonic AT. i dont think there will be any more 3rd party ATs after that.
 

Tonic_Sonic

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I think Metal Sonic would be a good AT. He would go around the stage shooting lazers and stuff. Knuckles would be also effective. He could slam the ground causeing everyone to fly. Or he can slam you in the ground and come over and wack you one. :laugh: Tails I don`t really see as a AT. Hes a lover not a fighter. But he will probly be in Sonics story more some how. But meh who knows. All I know is there will be other sonic ATs.
why cant tails be an AT? just because he doesnt fight?

i mean one of the ATs right now is Mr. Resetti and all he does is talk. i think anyone can be an AT, even if they aren't "fighters"
 

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The current popular theory for a Tails AT is that after you use him, he'll follow you around for a little while and help you recover if you get knocked off the stage.

why cant tails be an AT? just because he doesnt fight?

i mean one of the ATs right now is Mr. Resetti and all he does is talk. i think anyone can be an AT, even if they aren't "fighters"
QFT. I mean, seriously. Dr. Wright? Civil engineers aren't cyclopean robo-ninjas.
 

Max780

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Tails and Knuckles have no excuses for not being in Brawl now.
 

Sesshomaru1

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knuckles should be a playable character as tails should be an at because he can come in in his sonic adventure 2 machine and shoot missiles at people
 

Lord SeBz

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tails could come out in either the Tornado, or that thing he used in SA2B. He could launch a barrage of missiles that follow your enemies.
 

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Bah, Big FTW.

He comes in, and throws his fishing rod...and waits....and waits...then he gets a bite and throws the fish at someone and leaves.

Or perhaps a smash frenzy with his fishing pole?

XD
 

Lord SeBz

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or king boom boo could come out yelling like he only does.



but srsly, eggman could come in that thing he drove in the first sonic. The thing that swung a giant wrecking ball.
 

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Bah, Big FTW.

He comes in, and throws his fishing rod...and waits....and waits...then he gets a bite and throws the fish at someone and leaves.

Or perhaps a smash frenzy with his fishing pole?

XD
:laugh: Now Link will have someone to play boring fishing minigames with.

tails could come out in either the Tornado, or that thing he used in SA2B. He could launch a barrage of missiles that follow your enemies.
That was the Tornado. It also doubles as his car.
 

Tyrael64

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I kinda pictured he'd grab all the items near him, spin them around and then throw them at people. Switching the controls is classic but it's way too harsh on a player :p
Or maybe he'd pull his Twin Snakes "BLACKOUT! HAHAHAHA!!" trick. I could see that working as a much-cooler version of the Nintendog or something.
 

FaceGuy

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Saki from Sin and Punishment is already an assist trophy. That's a Treasure game. We got confirmation of this a long time ago.
Sin and Punishment was published by Nintendo though, so that doesn't count.
 

Shritistrang

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No. It was the Cyclone.

The Tornado was destroyed in Sonic Adventure 1.
In plane mode, it is called the Tornado 2 (as he said in Sonic Adventure 1). Only when turned into walking mode will it become the Cyclone. At least, that's my theory.

About Assist Trophies, I think Cream the Rabbit and Cheese would make a great AT. Cream releases Cheese who then flies around in random circles.
 

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And you know what it should do? Switch around which controller controls which character. Those who have played MGS shall know why. :)
That would be great! But made so all your kills and falls for that short period of time are given to your original Character, that way you can't just repeatedly jump off the edge with your opponents Character, as it'll be taken off of your Character, not theirs. :)
 

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but srsly, eggman could come in that thing he drove in the first sonic. The thing that swung a giant wrecking ball.
Or, considering that he has his modern look while Sonic has his "Classic" look in Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, he could pilot his Egg Viper from Sonic Adventure 1 and shoot a barrage of lasers, as well as its spinning blade discs. If he doesn't use that, he could always use the Egg Walker from SA1 or the one from SA2.
 

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In plane mode, it is called the Tornado 2 (as he said in Sonic Adventure 1). Only when turned into walking mode will it become the Cyclone. At least, that's my theory.

About Assist Trophies, I think Cream the Rabbit and Cheese would make a great AT. Cream releases Cheese who then flies around in random circles.
Actually the one that turns into a cyborg walker is called the Tornado III and its walker mode is called Cyclone The Tornado II was only used in a minigame in Sonic Adventure 1 and in the opening of Team Sonic in Sonic Heroes

Here's proof

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Prower#Tails.27_mechanical_creations

In Sonic Adventure, Tails experiments with a Chaos Emerald-powered prototype plane based on Sonic's Tornado, the Tornado II. The Tornado II has two modes. One is quite similar to the original Tornado, but with a button press, Tails can make it transform into a rather futuristic-looking little plane which outperforms the Tornado in all but one important function - landing gear. Big the Cat ends up flying the wrecked Tornado II to his home after Sonic and Tails crash-land on Eggman's flying fortress, the Egg Carrier. The Tornado II is then apparently altered so that it no longer requires a Chaos Emerald as its power supply, and reappears in cut-scenes in both Sonic Heroes and Sonic Riders, along with the Special Stage in Sonic Advance 3.

In Sonic Adventure 2, Tails has a new plane, the P-3a Tornado III. The Tornado III has three modes: a plane mode, a car mode, and a walker mode. The airplane is only seen in cut-scenes and the car is used on only one level (in the Kart minigame, Tails uses a go-kart), so the walker mode, called the Cyclone, is mostly used throughout the game[15]. Tails uses the Cyclone during all other gameplay, except when visiting the Chao Garden. In Shadow the Hedgehog, the Tornado III reappears, and is also part of a spaceship used to travel to Space Colony ARK.
 

Darky Dee

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Tails would be an interesting assist trophy if he were to stick around for about a minute or two, and follow the summoner around as they battle, and if they were knocked off, Tails would fly to them and lift them back to safety, sort of like the Final Fantasy spell, Auto-Life.
 

MetaNiGHTs

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I could see Knuckles and NiGHTs as assist trophies but maybe companies get one character and at per company
 

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yea im kind of glad about this update seeing a 3rd party AT. i wasnt sure if they were going to do them, but i could see atleast 1 more each 3rd party character, and maybe... dare i say 2?

psycho mantis would have been amazing, and they may still throw him in. for geno i would like to see mallow, and for sonic i would like to see robotnik. if bomberman was in brawl tho, who would his AT be? lol. another differ color bomberman?

we could also have ATs that are third party but from the same company but not exactly same game. this would be perfect for nights
 

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the next AT you will see from a 3rd party would be someone frome sonic. so dont get your hopes up
 

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why cant tails be an AT? just because he doesnt fight?

i mean one of the ATs right now is Mr. Resetti and all he does is talk. i think anyone can be an AT, even if they aren't "fighters"
But Mr.Resetti doesnt fight. Hes the goldeen of ATs. I still don`t think Tails should fight...But maby a obstacul. He could blow wind around with his Tails. Or use his cannon he had in Sonic battle. I don`t know....he will be in the game thou.:ohwell:
 

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But Mr.Resetti doesnt fight. Hes the goldeen of ATs. I still don`t think Tails should fight...
But that's exactly what Tonic_Sonic wanted to say with his comment, that not all Assist Trophy characters have to fight. And therefore, that Tails doesn't need to be a good fighter to appear as an AT character either.

Besides, he can fight. Why do you think he was a playable character in Sonic 2 and 3? And just look at his moves from Sonic Battle and Sonic Heroes! Also, he could always appear in/with one of his machines. Tails is tougher than most people tend to believe... True, he's not Knuckles, but still... he could do better than say, Charmy Bee.
 

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I would say 1-2 ATs per Franchise. Maybe more if all other series that have icons in Smash Bros have 3+.
 

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I'll say Tails, Knuckels, Psycho Mantis and hopefully Liquid Snake will make their cameos as AT'S as for Megaman (if he get's in) i'll say Protoman, one Dr, Wily's creations or Zero who I really want to see
 

Red&Silver

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tails is lame i would reather have knukles or shadow o-O maybe silver even though im not a big fan of him
 

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If there's already a thread about this, post a link.
Well, the recent Gray Fox has relieved a doubt I've been having: There are 3rd Party ATs in Brawl. The question is, how many, and who?

What do you think. How many 3rd Party AT's do you think they'll allow (I'm thinking 1 per franchise, but I hope not), and who do you think will be those trophies..?

For MGS we got Gray Fox, though I was hoping for Psycho Mantis...

From Sonic Team (yes, Sonic Team, not Sega), we have a huge amount of possibilities. Tails, Knuckles, Amy, maybe even NIGHTS...

So, what say ye?
I believe I did in the Character Forum section.

Anyways, this basicly confirms any other popular game characters into ATs.

Well, I hope.
 
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