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On the bright side, we now have debug mode. I'll definitely be in the lab working on tricks/gimmicks for recovering (I know it can suck to rely on gimmicks... meh). The only real issue is testing the various situations properly and to a full extent. I'll just use the frame advance to learn how to maximize my recovery options.
Gratz you learned how to use debug mode, thats been around forever in melee, and it doesnt help better utilize options where they arent present.
Dudeeee I know, but at the end of the day, i just don't care, I act the way I feel I should act, and I don't feel a boost in what I say being taken any more seriously than they already are, because well, I have proven myself in both skill and validity of what I say, I just don't always say it in the dandiest of ways, and yes I recognize it, yes, probally not the best way to speak in any situation, but I have been slipping a lot lately, admittedly and I'll tone it back, thanks for the feedback
But thats why I can get away with it... because you accept it ;p. I don't, and neither does anyone else here... tolerate it from newer members or anyone else, b/c I iz a special azz hole, I am your guys azz hole. And despite **** coming out, I'm still a vital part of the body and you couldn't eliminate that waste without me xDDD
Play Metroid already! I'm reccomending Super Metroid, the Prime series, Zero Mission, and the one only I seem to really like, Fusion. Get emulators if you have to. And ditto me on wifi if you live in Texas. And the whole point of this is to say I'm no longer a n00b to Samus forums even though all of that was completely unrelated. If I'm getting harassed by you then it means I'm doing something wrong. Thanks for being such a condescending and arrogant asshole! That way I'll get depressed if I get whupped. It like getting banned!
^ much better contribution than before lol, but nah we have a chain grab on mk, and he has a very difficult time dealing with our projectiles... because his sword has transitive properties like fox's lasers... ie... the sword dont break missiles and he gets ****s up fast especially with the ice set, then get him flying above you... jump canceled running ice up smashes, and Dding on the ground, just roll away... zair and keep him away, your goal is to never actively engage metaknight, just punishing him for approaching you... which he has to do
Meta Knight can jump over projectiles and a smart MK would stuff Samus by nair planeing or rollercoastering her hopefully to death. If the stage has platforms, MK can out camp her but if it doesn't, Samus can't outcamp him 'naw wut I mean. As a Meta Knight player, I have the patience of a middle school teacher but one hit and I will probably edgeguard or combo you to death because I have been trained in the ways of the punish by Darth Bane/victini and also by watching Lawn Chair and K9. Lawn Chair's punishes are the best. And Samus's grab isn't the most reliable thing in the universe. It kinda sucks honestly even with the range, it's so freakin slow.
Oh I brain farted and said disadvantage sorry. It's even. I changed my mind once I learned the matchup. Again, sorry.
Yeah, I cant find any notable flaws in her game now that melee button mechs are in now other than the tether
Are there any good videos of esam vs an mk? I have a lot of trouble with MK's =/
Again, learn from this about asking about X instead of posting about X to save yourself time typing out a paragraph that may prove be wrong
Thats just simple not true... you just need to fast fall fair or up air when knocked off the side, so MK has no means of killing you off the bottom, if anything he may try to nair you, but your nairs and UP b will save you from it, I am dissapointed to hear how much trouble the majority of your sami have with the MU because it really is not that bad at all, only been one MK i have lost to and it was a pretty damn good player at zenith think it was Guru, also I think the cg should be even easier in 3.5 and you would wanna take MK to a med size stage so you can still get early enough kills without giving him too much space to avoid the missiles.
I dont know... click on your address bar and type in"www.youtube.com", if you cant find any by typing in "Esam (samus) vs MK" then I would assume not
Oh the zair nerf was deserved, but no I dont know who that individual was, but having it as a jab reset follow up half way across the stage is even more useful than what the zair was before imo
I never played brawl, and I dont practice the game outside tourney either dude
... just dont let MK get below you, and dont get grabbed lol, those are the only 2 things you should really focus on in the MU
The only one I found was seibrik vs him. I was hoping for more recent things than 7 months ago. I was just hoping you guys had a few you would recommend to really learn the match up.
How would we have a few to recommend of esam if the only one was against seibrik? Unless you meant in general... which you could also have searched yourself, or looked through the video archive yourself. But alas, no there is not many videos out there of the MK Samus MU, if you want I can talk you through aspects of the MU you are having issues with, just shoot me a message.
I meant that I meant to put even but my brain was wandering so I put slight disadvantage.
Well we can gimp the hell out of samus now. Like it's almost sad. They both hardcore destroy each other though.
I mean ESAM rolled over Squeak but he would have done that with any character
*Shots Fired
Here's one
I think you misunderstand, in melee it is required to put work in the lab because of the amount of practice one needs with their character to be able to properly and competently control them, which separates the wheat from the chaff, in PM, the game lowers skill ceils for pure movement as well as regular tech skill, so no in this game, very little lab practice is required to be considered "good"
Lowers the skill floor, skill ceiling is higher.
Depends what you define as skill, mental exploration of options... Sure but the lower skill ceilings don't seperate players willing to put work into the lab from those that just play the game casually, it's why melee greats can just pick up Pm and win a tourny but Pm only players flop when they attempt th same transition
That describes the affect of a lower floor.
When the tech is possible for any player to do, the over all possible ceiling of tech to extend ones game is lowered as a result of the game being more forgiving
