- † King DeDeDe's MetaGame Discussion † -

[o-Serin-o]

It's not complete fail =3

 

[Commander_Beef]

<3 Beef :D

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Atmosk found some sort of instant pivot grab out of shield. This is good for us

I know what he means...it's when we dash > pivot grab all in one motion almost, just like smash boosting. We'll get more grab range from it and it looks like we don't move an inch... Nobody really "found" it, it's just not used that much.

 

[Jupz]

I think your thinking about the wrong thing beef. I know that pivot grab trick but this is pivot grabbing out of shield. The shield comes up for a few frames then you pivot grab. If you were talking about it, sorry I'm mistaken

 

[o-Serin-o]

Jet Hammer just became useful. Use it right as your about to land. It has a better range than most moves and hits behind you if you move backwards.

 

[Commander_Beef]

Jet Hammer just became useful. Use it right as your about to land. It has a better range than most moves and hits behind you if you move backwards.

That's extremely old news Serin.
Honestly, that's the only time when you should actually use it, is when you fast-fall it, for a mindgame.

"It hits behind you when you move backwards" <--- You could call that B-Reversalling the down B. Gosh...

 

[o-Serin-o]

Needs video explanation...

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

I think i found the best way to finish a Smashville platform chaingrab vs basically anyone. Provided you got most of the CG, they should be around 50-70 starting from 0, if ur standing at the back end of the platform, when it stops moving, do one last dash chaingrab, fastfall through and Fair them, it lands, it kills.

 

[T3h Albino]

LOLOLOL seibrik man you're incredible

 

[o-Serin-o]

I did that before... but I just didn't post about it. TT_TT

 

[Jupz]

Lol nice seibrik

 

[o-Serin-o]

>.> Why isn't your name purple like Co18's?

 

[T3h Albino]

**** seibrik must have to answer that question atleast 4times a day lol

 

[o-Serin-o]

Well, I didn't get an answer =D

 

[CRASHiC]

He just hasn't set his name to be.
Mods have to be red, the rest of us get to pick.

 

[o-Serin-o]

._. No fairsys

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

how you got to be mod, i'll never know.

 

[T3h Albino]

Yeah having responsibilities must suck.

 

[momochuu]

how you got to be mod, i'll never know.

Well ****. xD

 

[CRASHiC]

how you got to be mod, i'll never know.

Because he knows Susa.

Odd little thing I found, Their is a hitbox right underneath DDDs jethammer when falling.

 

[Commander_Beef]

I can't believe you never even knew fastfalling down B way before -_-...

 

[CRASHiC]

No, I knew about that, but when put never knew that there was a hitbox that extended beneath DDD.

 

[o-Serin-o]

Surprising, huh.

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

Surprising, huh.

Excellent moderation there.

 

[o-Serin-o]

What is this? Your going to pin me for every nook and cranny? I'm not really strick unless you come off as an *******... >.> Don't do it.

 

[T3h Albino]

n1ggacalmdown

 

[o-Serin-o]

Okay, okay I'm done. Lets just put this aside.

 

[CRASHiC]

Okay, something cool.
b reversal straight out of run for inhale. I love it.
If its someone who can't stop an inhale, they can't do anything but approach you from the air now, which means bair time.

 

[T3h Albino]

yeah b reversales out of run is pretty cool its nice to throw a gordo when someones right on you lol

 

[CRASHiC]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=8289570#post8289570

I want us to look into this.
I can foresee a forward air, and if someone recovers low, maybe a forward smash (though that's really hopeful)
I'll do some testing today, let you know what I find.

 

[T3h Albino]

Seibrik said you should always end this with fall through platform > fair
which will kill just about everyone at around 60/70. There are dtilt,ftilt,Rar bair,Fullhop dair, waddle dee toss, reverse inhale, and usmash i could all see working.

 

[CRASHiC]

Seibrik said you should always end this with fall through platform > fair
which will kill just about everyone at around 60/70. There are dtilt,ftilt,Rar bair,Fullhop dair, waddle dee toss, reverse inhale, and usmash i could all see working.

No no no no. That's the chaingrab. We can't chaingrab Metaknight, so if we have him on the platform, and we air release him, thanks to the moving platform, free f air. This is for those we can't chaingrab. We might even be able to get a forward smash. Again, I have to test it, and I will. This might end up really cool for us.

 

[T3h Albino]

ohhh i see.
This could prove to be interesting.

 

[o-Serin-o]

Basically, we can just Fair him. Fsmash is too slow and Dsmash is too low. If you're a quick RAR, you can do it, but otherwise glhf.

 

[CRASHiC]

Yeah, Fsmash is WAYY to slow.

Something else, the best set up for a jab lock is a jab when they are right against a wall. With Metaknight its pretty hard cause 9f his round body, but still cool.

Typing frr9m my wii is a pain.

 

[o-Serin-o]

Plug your keyboard into the back. It works, ya know.

 

[Commander_Beef]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=8289570#post8289570

I want us to look into this.
I can foresee a forward air, and if someone recovers low, maybe a forward smash (though that's really hopeful)
I'll do some testing today, let you know what I find.

This whole idea was great that you found...forward air would probbaly work. And I would see our up tilt working, or Inhale. Not forward smash though, I already know that much.

 

[CRASHiC]

Yeah, like I said, forward smash was 1. ridiculously hopeful, and 2. way to slow.

 

[Technodeath]

but nonetheless it can still be an option, even if it is a low probability of it being effective.

 

[Jupz]

Fair is still great

 

[CRASHiC]

Okay. Got something cool for you. A snake mine giving you trouble? Auto cancel an aerial, land on the mine, press shield.
You perfect shield it, and if snake is near, he takes damage.

Next, neutral b reversal after bair is a great way to momentum cancel.