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maximuspita

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Dojima said:
RO is for **** like Eval, hey max guess what this spells PNUS that's what we have for you.
FOR MEEEEE?!?!?! NAH... what flavor then, man? And you know all the beeotches be falling for Eval and his leet skill reseted wizard, mangs. ETHEREAL REPRESENT.
 

Kmahhl

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Oh man, d@mn RO, I hate that crappy MMO, in fact I hate almost all MMORPG's ( the only exeption is DAoC) anyway I'm a MMO hater because of the temporal friendship loss I've had with some of my closest friends, Yes! I have lost my friends to those diabolical games, because they get in your head and everything you think about is :

-Play
-Eat
-Sleep

In that exact same order... I'll never be an MMORPG player again! NEVER!
 

Rasalas

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Bayamon, Puerto Rico
Kmahhl said:
Oh man, d@mn RO, I hate that crappy MMO, in fact I hate almost all MMORPG's ( the only exeption is DAoC) anyway I'm a MMO hater because of the temporal friendship loss I've had with some of my closest friends, Yes! I have lost my friends to those diabolical games, because they get in your head and everything you think about is :

-Play
-Eat
-Sleep

In that exact same order... I'll never be an MMORPG player again! NEVER!
I SECOND THAT THOUGHT!, AMEN!

PS: soon karura and I gonna get a capture card, so, we are gonna be able to upload vids for you to see them so, expect some soon.
 

Vain

Smash Journeyman
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Kmahhl said:
-Play
-Eat
-Sleep
In that exact same order... I'll never be an MMORPG player again! NEVER!
Dark Ages of Camelot, hadn't heard of that in a while.
Anywho I agree with your opinion, but hell its summer there's not much to do so I'll play on a this free private server,lol.
Not like the West is doing much Smashing. Well off to RO X_X
And Max you're coming to Smash, not RO and maybe MvC2 :p
 

Karura Karami

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Oh man, d@mn RO, I hate that crappy MMO, in fact I hate almost all MMORPG's ( the only exeption is DAoC) anyway I'm a MMO hater because of the temporal friendship loss I've had with some of my closest friends, Yes! I have lost my friends to those diabolical games, because they get in your head and everything you think about is :

-Play
-Eat
-Sleep

In that exact same order... I'll never be an MMORPG player again! NEVER!
I though I was going to loose/lose/como sea SOME friends THANKS to RO >_>U . . . estuvieron un tiempito adictivos -_-U *sigh*

Rasalas said:
I SECOND THAT THOUGHT!, AMEN!

PS: soon karura and I gonna get a capture card, so, we are gonna be able to upload vids for you to see them so, expect some soon.
We're gonna help each other to complete thy money for the capture card, yay!! (y de paso me pongo a trastear subiendo animaciones con Peeps xD)

by the way, is yourtube a good "server" to upload those kind of smash videos, or u guys have your own page?? or wth with that?
 

WanderingAngel

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Kmahhl said:
Oh man, d@mn RO, I hate that crappy MMO, in fact I hate almost all MMORPG's ( the only exeption is DAoC) anyway I'm a MMO hater because of the temporal friendship loss I've had with some of my closest friends, Yes! I have lost my friends to those diabolical games, because they get in your head and everything you think about is :

-Play
-Eat
-Sleep

In that exact same order... I'll never be an MMORPG player again! NEVER!
lol i love ro >.< but i kinda quitted cause i got tired of paying then i found a free server but it was too easy to lvl up that u could get to the max lvl without partying i love the easy money thou... :chuckle:
 

Dojima

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Rejoyce Carlos!!!

OK after many months of halt I decided to work a little more on the vid thanks to the constant (daily) reminders of Carlos. After he asked for it about 4 times in the last tourney I just had to please the poor man. This vid was done out of friendlies that we had here on the Rum and a lot of the people from here appear. It was mostly done to show that Zelda doesn't suck and to make people understand that the flashy vids are not real as she is slow and you need mindgames and stage control rather than trying to look cool.
Well Carlos here it is, since you could no appear in it I used a vid where I acidentaly used your name so at least you have something in it.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=1425051#post1425051
 

H@wK

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I don't mind Rasalas, you can have it :)

Felicidades a Kmahhl por su graduacion, I forgot to post it before (We are prepas, AGAIN!) :chuckle:

Karura, nosotros no jugamos... Por eso quiero jugar con Rasalas y el combo, to see for myself how much have you guys improved since last time I saw you (The tourney), not to mention I want to see what Shel have in store (Her Sheik is what I meant ^_^).

j0Qr, Angel, Vizent, I want to give Hector's mom (Angel) some break, le tenemos la casa paletia' ^_^ , no vaya a ser que se encoj*ne con nosotros. De esa manera le damos break a Zyko para ver si no pichea y viene ^_^ .

Now you know people - If you hear someone saying Zelda sucks, kick him in las quenepas pa' que crea en Dios! Defendiendo a Doji :chuckle:

Nos vemos. BENDICION! ;)
 

Omitachi

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I though I was going to loose/lose/como sea SOME friends THANKS to RO >_>U . . . estuvieron un tiempito adictivos -_-U *sigh*
And what does THAT suppost to mean?? :mad:

Fist of all, I wanna say BE CAREFUL WITH RO PLAYERS! I'm one!! :cry:

Second...

H@wK said:
Karura, nosotros no jugamos... Por eso quiero jugar con Rasalas y el combo, to see for myself how much have you guys improved since last time I saw you (The tourney), not to mention I want to see what Shel have in store (Her Sheik is what I meant ^_^).
I'm gonna feel like a idiot leting you guys seing me play now *blushes* I hope I can get better in the game, specially with tnkz to anyone who gives me pointers...

Karura **** it! When are we goin to play?! *psycho staker mode: on* :psycho:
 

H@wK

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Omitachi said:
I'm gonna feel like a idiot leting you guys seing me play now *blushes* I hope I can get better in the game, specially with tnkz to anyone who gives me pointers...
There is no need to feel like an idiot, everyone was a n00b at a certain point. Besides, where is the fun if everyone is a pro-smasher? No fun in that.

De todos modos, sigo con el interes de jugar con los tres ^_^

I would love to smash this week. los unicos dias disponibles que tengo en la semana son los lunes, miercoles, viernes y sabado (I'm very lazy on Sundays :p) y los martes y jueves, you know, God business :laugh:

Si hacen algo, tomenme en consideracion, por favor, gracias.

Nos vemos. BENDICION! ;)
 

Karura Karami

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Karura, nosotros no jugamos... Por eso quiero jugar con Rasalas y el combo, to see for myself how much have you guys improved since last time I saw you (The tourney), not to mention I want to see what Shel have in store (Her Sheik is what I meant ^_^).
Rasalas y "el combo" jajajaja xD Combo 1 de BK

y Shell me enoja >__> esta ahi bien apenada(ugh.. a quien me recordara?) por que dice que no sabe jugar ;__;!! Mana yo tampoco se jugar y estoy mejorando, bueno, si se jugar, por que eso tu le das a los botones y ya xD que lo use bien son otros 20 LOL!!! pero estoy en camino a eso >__>!! y ya no me siento tan apenada como antes por que se que estos tipos entienden, no se rien y estan ahi pa darnos la mano .-. asi que no seas tan boba y deja eso >__<!! me desesperas a mi xD y ahora quiero jugar con to el mundo jajajajaja

And what does THAT suppost to mean??

Fist of all, I wanna say BE CAREFUL WITH RO PLAYERS! I'm one!!

Second...
lo dije por ALGUIEN en el foro >__>!!!

Karura **** it! When are we goin to play?! *psycho staker mode: on*
calma ^^UU

De todos modos, sigo con el interes de jugar con los tres ^_^
*Se pasa las uñas por la camisa y cuando termina se las acerca a la boca y se hecha aliento(para guillarselas)* u_u!! Bueno...

Mi primer cliente yaaaaaay!! *-*!! (yo me entiendo XDDD) :004: :yoshi:
 

H@wK

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Karura Karami said:
Rasalas y "el combo" jajajaja xD Combo 1 de BK
y ya no me siento tan apenada como antes por que se que estos tipos entienden, no se rien y estan ahi pa darnos la mano .-. asi que no seas tan boba y deja eso >__<!! me desesperas a mi xD y ahora quiero jugar con to el mundo jajajajaja
No te preocupes, ya yo le explique ^_^ !

Yo j0Qr, nos vas a acompañar el lunes verdad? That goes for you to Zyko :laugh:
@ Karura- Te guillaste un poco ahi. ROFL!!! LOL!
 

Omitachi

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Karura Karami said:
Rasalas y "el combo" jajajaja xD Combo 1 de BK

y Shell me enoja >__> esta ahi bien apenada(ugh.. a quien me recordara?) por que dice que no sabe jugar ;__;!! Mana yo tampoco se jugar y estoy mejorando, bueno, si se jugar, por que eso tu le das a los botones y ya xD que lo use bien son otros 20 LOL!!! pero estoy en camino a eso >__>!! y ya no me siento tan apenada como antes por que se que estos tipos entienden, no se rien y estan ahi pa darnos la mano .-. asi que no seas tan boba y deja eso >__<!! me desesperas a mi xD y ahora quiero jugar con to el mundo jajajajaja



lo dije por ALGUIEN en el foro >__>!!!



calma ^^UU
Bueno, se jugar de ke se algunos movimientos, pero si necesito jugar mas amenudo. Well, im goin to train tomorrow with a Friend of mine. She and I need all the training we can get! (Karura, es Cecy la que viene, juju lo sujerio XD)

Bueno Karla, es ke estoy loca por ver como juegas en verdad XD!

Y quien es ese ALGUIEN?! XD!!
 

vxg_gizmo

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Hey guys, i really would like your help on something!

We’ve been trying to finalize our rules at the Video X Games lately, and are almost done with the exception of one thing: Stage Selection.

We have three options that we are exploring, and I’d like you to give your opinions on what you think would be the best format for stage selection in a Smash Bros Tournament.

1. The Traditional VxG Rules

The VxG traditionally had its rules pretty simple:
1. Players were give 10 seconds to AGREE on choosing a stage from any that they wish.
2. If within 10 seconds they could not choose, the referee would randomly choose one of the following stages:
Final Dest.
Dreamland 64
Battlefield
Yoshi’s Story
Pokemon Stadium

We hardly ever had a situation where the players would not agree on a stage before. Never had any problems. The arugment would be, however, is that we put too much control of the match in the hands of the contestants. However, since VxG has always been a tradionally democratic tournament, where we involve our contestant heavily in the rules and game selection, it was within our niche.

2. The MLG Rules

Almost all other rules of the games was based on MLG rules – No Items. We have considered using the MLG Rules to the following with regards to stages, but we’re not too sure. There rules are:
1. The higher seed has first choice for their seat and controller port.
2. The first round stage is selected by random.
3. Random select stages limited to: Final Destination, Battlefield, Yoshi's Story, Fountain of Dreams, Rainbow Cruise, Dreamland 64 & Pokemon Stadium
4. Stages not listed on the random select list that are not banned are open for counter picks by the losing player.
5. Stages banned for Singles Only: Great Bay
6. Stages banned for Doubles Only: Fountain of Dreams.
7. Stages banned for Singles & Doubles: Fourside, Hyrule Temple, Flatzone, Brinstar Depths, Icicle Mountain, Big Blue, Mushroom Kingdom 1, Venom and Yoshi's Island 64

These rules are pretty ok, but are a big complex to enforce based on the fact that counter players get to pick stages etc. We also have to keep track of the matches. But aside from the room for error on the part of referees, it seems ok.

3. The Simple Rules – Final Destination

Our referees have proposed a very simple rule, just one line long:
1. All matches are played on Final Destination

This, in my opinion, is an attempt from the referees to save themselves some extra work on managing our smash tournament which is our second biggest game (80 plus entries). Of course, its very boring, and probably very easy to exploit...

Well, those are our three options, please vote in the poll and let us know what you think. Any other suggestions are also welcome.

Thanks again for you input guys!
 

Bubbleman_Nsider

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Am I wrong, or are there now 3 girls that smash? I never thought girls would like Smash, most of the ones that live in my town almost don't play games.
 

masschaosde

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General question to everyone from the west: are there gonna be any more tourneys or smashfests or whatever? I'm asking because even though I haven't played for like 2-4 months, I'm hyped after watching a few vids. Oh, and welcome to all the newcomers and hello to all of the girls that are on this thread. It's amazing how the women's smash community is growing. Next thing you know, they'll surpass every guy that plays smash.
 

H@wK

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For first place: MLG Rules
Second: VxG Rules

I don't like the last rules. They aren't fair. There is people who likes stages with platforms *coughWanderingAngelcough* and some uses them as couterpick, me for example. The thing is, I main with Falky, and I rely on him a lot, and I suck against Peach (n00b or not, I don't know why), and in final Destination, w00t, I would get my AS$ kicked easily!

You understand right.

But hey that's my opinion, you could care less if you want! Just letting you know my opinion!

Nos vemos./See ya!

Edit- C'mon, puertorricans! What's the matter? No le picheen a Gizmo!
 

vxg_gizmo

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Lol hawk, of course i appreciate your opinion! Else i wouldn;t post in the first place haha. Thanks for far for your comment. We will be going with MLG rules, however, i have just learned from the head refree. This post was misunderstood at first on other forums, i hope no one else misunderstands it here...
 

Vizent

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The worst stages are the moving ones. The only bad thing about Corneria is if you get shot by an arwing and the bad part on Jungle Japes is the current. On Yoshi Story the only thing that gets in the way are the shy guys and Peach's Castle the bullet.

O and Onett because of the cars
 

Dojima

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H@wK said:
I main with Falky, and I rely on him a lot, and I suck against Peach (n00b or not, I don't know why), and in final Destination, w00t, I would get my AS$ kicked easily!
Don't make me hit you, the tournament is unfair cause of Falco, in fact I the rules where only Final Destination in a tournament I would use Falco just cause of the unholy advantage falco has in Final Destination. In Final Destination Falco is GOD, if you had to fight one there and lost don't feel bad because it was bound to happend.
 

Vain

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Side Note to Dojima's comment

What Dojima refers to is the following:

Falco can short hop you laser you into submission in Final Destination where there is no place to hide, keeping a good run away game with the SHL and then coming in for grabs, pillars,smashes and etc makes Falco ideal in that stage, but of course there's always Marth and Peach (among others) who can grasp Falco and up throw him to high percents and then finish him off ( which is what H@wk is probably talking about). Evil knows how to play Falco on Final, since I've seen him get some lasers in even when he's getting back on stage (from edgehog to short hop laser) and his consistent shl spammage keeps enemies sometimes being unable to move.
The Stage's lack of platforms is indeed a problem, that's why the Only Final Destination rule should be avoided at all cost, MLG all the way gentlemen.
 

HDL

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It’s not because of Falco. You can powershield his lasers. The reason why FD as the only stage is not good because it gives characters too much of an advantage while others are harmed from it. Spamming characters like Falco and Samus get too much of an advantage, but the biggest reason is because of chain throwing and countering people’s styles. Pick Peach against Falco and chain throw him on FD, he has no walls or platforms to tech off of, therefore no escape. Same thing with Sheik, who can chain throw half the characters without limitation. Also it completely rids the idea of strategically picking an advantageous stage. A stage with platforms or a curved floor may be just what you need to counter another person’s style.

Many people who aren’t that great really believe that FD is the most balanced stage in the game because there are no obstacles. In theory it does look true, but high leveled players know better. It’s still a fair stage, but by no means should it be the only stage available. You are actively giving certain characters a headstart by banning all other stages. Corneria has the Arwings and the way the ship moves, but you can hear the ship and the lasers before they actually hit you, so that’s not a good excuse. In Onett the cars appear at set intervals of 14 seconds (generally that much). In Jungle Japes the river is not even random, it can be avoided. In Poké Floats there is a set course, so no problem with it.

Smaller stages, ones with platforms, lower ceilings, curved floors, and other things like this is what makes Smash balanced. It’s what allows you to give your character an edge over another, and even you against the player themself. If you notice someone does not DI vertical sending moves correctly, you can counter pick a stage with a low ceiling and exploit that. When you win, it means you made a smart choice, and making smart decisions is what being a top player is all about. If you’re against a character that can chain throw you, you might want to pick Onett due to the platforms and walls you can tech off of. Let’s see how well your opponent does when you limit his forms of approach and offense. Because of the falling speed/weight physics engine, as well as more aerial freedom, you need variation in Smash. One stage can’t do it all.
 

Vizent

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Exactly just like Hyrule Temple is a huge stage but is not flat and FD is big but is completly flat and is a face to face stage.


How about Kongo Jungle thats not a bad stage I think is great for single battles.
 

Link-NY

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I think none of the stages should be banned at all it makes the game more unpredictable and interesing :D:D Look at the brinstar kraids level Top tiers such so much in that stage becasue of there rocovery its so fun taking advantage of it.. to bad that stage is banned thou =(
 

Dojima

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Fox Hater said:
Im sorry but in my opinion I think that Falco could como better in battlefield.
Gilbert look, your FUC**** cap just drew the last line here. He can combo better in Battlefield, but in terms of which stage favors him more its FD all the way. He is still able to pull pretty nice combos on it and you have no where to run when he starts using the laser. FD is better, the platforms of battlefield may help him combo sometimes, but they also give a place for people to tech, so is an advantage and disadvantage at the same time.
 

Uriel Vinellus

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Final Destination definetly gives me advantage. Even if I can sometimes combo better in Battlefield on FD I can combo more constantly because there are no platform for them to tech and escape pillar etc. There are no platform so I can spamm as long as my opponent don't powershield and there is no escape.
 

vxg_gizmo

Smash Rookie
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Messages
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Thank you ALL for your comments. You really brought some light into the whole stage, and its interesting that its still kind of a debate among players (also on other forums i see different opinions). However, 2 things are constant:
1) Everyone agrees not just final dest.
2) Everyone prefers MLG rules...

Remember that i am only the Chief Coordinator of this event, so please forgive my lack of in depth knowledge in this game. My job is to communicate with the prospective contestants and game guru's like dojima, hdl and the rest of you who have helped so far, so for my task, intensive and very techincal knowledge in gaming is not a requisite. So please frogive my next noobish question:

What is the problem with hyrule temple? I am just personally curious now, since i play smash (just for fun) and i have the greatest matches on that map.


Thank you guys for your advice so far, i'll do my job and relay this information to everyone in the organization.
 

WIPE$$$

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vxg_gizmo said:
Thank you ALL for your comments. You really brought some light into the whole stage, and its interesting that its still kind of a debate among players (also on other forums i see different opinions). However, 2 things are constant:
1) Everyone agrees not just final dest.
2) Everyone prefers MLG rules...

Remember that i am only the Chief Coordinator of this event, so please forgive my lack of in depth knowledge in this game. My job is to communicate with the prospective contestants and game guru's like dojima, hdl and the rest of you who have helped so far, so for my task, intensive and very techincal knowledge in gaming is not a requisite. So please frogive my next noobish question:

What is the problem with hyrule temple? I am just personally curious now, since i play smash (just for fun) and i have the greatest matches on that map.


Thank you guys for your advice so far, i'll do my job and relay this information to everyone in the organization.
Hyrule temple is the biggest stage in the game. Because of its size, it is hard to k.o. someone. There are also many places for people to run and hide, like the cave between the surface and the bottom. Even with a high percentage, one can still beat their opponet in such areas.

Basically, the main reason it is not picked is because of its unfair advantages.

edit: Also, the reason why most people prefer MLG rulesets is probably because people have found it to be fair, and since it has been out there longer, they have probably gotten used to it.
 

Vizent

Smash Cadet
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vxg_gizmo said:
What is the problem with hyrule temple? I am just personally curious now, since i play smash (just for fun) and i have the greatest matches on that map.


Thank you guys for your advice so far, i'll do my job and relay this information to everyone in the organization.
Well Hyrule Temple is a huge stage witch makes it dificult to make the battle a face to face one.

Also some parts of the stage are not flat witch may interfierewith some strategies.

The players that may have an advantage in Hyrule Temple are those with long range attacks wich gives Link a home stage advantage.
 

Vain

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vxg_gizmo said:
What is the problem with hyrule temple? I am just personally curious now, since i play smash (just for fun) and i have the greatest matches on that map.


Thank you guys for your advice so far, i'll do my job and relay this information to everyone in the organization.
The Problem with Hyrule Temple is that a fast character like Fox can shoot you once or twice and give you % and then run for the rest of the match. The MLG Ruleset gives you a 8 minute default timer so he shoots you and gains the lead in % and simply runs for the rest of the match, when the timer is over the character with the less stock and higher % loses, so it clearly gives Fox the advantage.
Hope that helps!
 
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