Zero Beat

Daisy is training with the punching back right now and laughing at our conversation. ^__^;

She told me that you probably kidnapped Birdo.

Hmmmm...I sent your picture over to her...and she said the psycho looked nothing like you.

I hear someone screaming in the background of the phone.....And Daisy told me that she elbowed the psycho in the stomach. ^__^;

♡I think a bat would hurt whether its swung fast or slow Mr. Zero.

♡She called and said she is about to shove her foot down a raving lunatic's throat....

♡Goodness me! Don't let her kick you! Her cleats have massive spikes.

♡That must hurt! She is very strong...

♡That's odd... on the phone,she told me she was beating some idiot with a baseball bat a few moments after your post.

Holy crap, that was a sweet post.

Did you make that graph?

Could you add me into the Temp Debaters please?

-KOTH

Tom and me referred to a forum game called Mafia.

THIS IS MY PROFILE!

Well my highest skill is 39 (got it in TS a long time ago) then I kept on getting bad teammates (I played with randoms...bad idea) and I went down to a 35. And I don't play TD anymore because 95% of the games are full of boosters. If you get back in Halo 3, we should play man. I've heard that you have a sick sniper.

Yea, I still play it from time to time. Right now I'm getting a friend to help me get a 45 in TS lol.

You still play Halo 3?

I'll follow your technique.



So far, I haven't heard a complaint, and while we had our 1 on 1, Hive and Alt/RDK successfully ignored us and continued their 1on1. They never pm'd me with a concern, and I have told them both to be very honest with me about any concerns or things that are bothersome. I keep an open door policy.

Why would they? They're on their own topic of conversation.

This would only come up from they tried to interact with our thread of the conversation, and I think that it showed rather clearly when RDK responded to portions of our branch without really understanding where it had gone.


First of all, in terms of being organized and spam-free, we are the best room in SWF. That is a fact. People can come in and read the topic's title(which is the whole point of a title, a mini thesis) and already have a generalized direction of what to look for in posts. If someone wanted to actually discuss agnosticism, they could have easily followed Alt/HIVE/RDK/Reaver. If they wanted to delve into our slightly off topic 1on1, they could have done so too. You really shouldn't underestimate a lurker's ability to choose what they want:-p.

About making new topics, I'll talk it over with Med and CK so we don't have these sort of problems again. Hope you're not upset with me.

Oh, don't think I'm annoyed, entirely the opposite, I've actually become quite interested in our little debate about education philosophy in regards to the DH.

You'll get no argument from me about this being the most organized room.

I just think in terms of the topics being maximally effective on review (and never underestimate the long-term value of threads like these even years after they died) as well as allowing everyone on the thread at the time to benefit from everything said, they need to remain at least relatively on-topic.

I want to especially consider our sub-topic in this, if a person were trying to find out about that, they don't have the subject line to go on, so how are they going to know that there was a discussion in the thread?

So, that's my two cents on the issue, thanks for hearing me out.

Ah, I see where our disagreement comes from.

You see, the branches are what I have an issue with, and while I understand that they happen inevitably if they get to far off-topic there are two issues which come out of them.

1. It becomes too general for outside observers to effectively follow.

2. People within the thread who are taking a different portion of the discussion have much more difficulty following the other branches.


In other words, it allows debaters to penetrate very deeply into reasoning behind a particular subject matter and is very educational for that. But the downside is that it hurts the ability of anyone to absorb the thread as a whole because the line of discussion and the different branches become too impossible to follow at once, hurting the education value for outsiders and those on different branches.


Since I place a premium and being able to use prior debates as future educational tools, so I believe that an outsider should be able to come in and get educated without being overwhelmed due to the simple wideness of the topic.

Your prime interest seems to be (and correct me if I'm wrong) on the education of the people that are debating at the time.


I think the best way of balancing those interests is creating a new thread when it gets too off-topic.

I saw it about 10 minutes ago, I understand. I'll talk to him in the future. I was planning on making my first post there a new topic, since I'm unfamiliar with the current topics. I was gonna take a few days to read over some of the vet's posts and see how I should format myself.

I'm not gonna leave the actual group though, because of the hassle it'll take to reapply, I just won't post in there, if that's cool. I don't see any hard in that, thanks for clearing things up.



Edit: Forget that, I see I was just removed.

No go ahead and replace me, I've been in there for a long time. Let other people have an opprotunity to do it.

No I was a debater first and was part of the proving grounds..help out thing. but you can take me out of the PG.

And I'm not very smart. Further proof that I deserve both rooms, I need to practice my argooments.

But you're in that group too so that means I'm allowed too.

Hey, am I still allowed to post in the Proving Grounds? I'm liking some of the new topics, and I'd really like to expand on the suicide thread. (Because they're all just agreeing with each other.)

No, But I think there's a line that needs to be drawn, and at a certain point, when we've moved to "the reason behind the reason behind the reason behind the reason behind the reason behind our points" then it's time to create a new thread, generally because it becomes impossible to hold a coherent discussion, which also hurts the educational value of the thread (generally because it's difficult for people to wrap their head around the diverse topics simultaneously).

Lol, you managed to derail two completely separate topics so badly, but in interesting ways, I thought I was the only one to just bring mathematical concepts into these debates.


I really want to discuss recursion (I'm actually an ISE major, so I happen to know a great deal about it), but I'm unwilling to derail the topics anymore, so don't expect much more then disputes of the relevance next reply. Nother thread maybe?

Tomarrow lol, I stayed up way later then I intended tonight.

*Clown ****** :D

I am so sorry, I had no idea that the debate hall was that full, if I could take my request back I would. I am so so sorry about trying to join.

-KOTH

I can, but they won't say much. I only have access to an Xbox when I'm home for the summer, and I share an Xbox live account.

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=Doomsday371&sg=0

Nevermind, its ok, I am just so frusturated with myself because I cant get into any of the groups.

-KOTH

you make me sad

I'm not too sure. Looking over that debate, the definition of Agnosticism has become so muddled I feel like I'd be "wrong" about whatever I say, no matter what it is. It does seem like a cop-out to me, but I'm not sure I have anything to say without being redundant.

Awesome. That works well. We need to stimulate activity in the main room.

Trunks will be in there eventually. It's DBZ with redone voice recording, new music and less filler.

Tales of the Abyss is based on the PS2 game of the same title. I played and liked that game, not sure if you'd like it.

Nah, I currently keep up with:
Naruto Shippuuden, Hajime no Ippo, Tales of the Abyss and Dragon Ball Kai (rerelease of DBZ).

The fight still hasn't ended and Neji doesn't do anything lol.

Go watch Dragon Ball Kai then!

I dunno, have to see more of Madara. I like him though.

I was on just now!

Good luck dude. And I bet those sixteen hours will fly by

I didnt ask anyone else.
All I said was That I was full of mystery as well.

-KOTH

Agreed dude. I like your idea better

And thanks. I was actually pretty surprised when I got that grade back.

I just realized I the area around my shoulderblades are all sore. Must've been from one of the falls I had.

As much of a gym-kamikaze that I am, i'm not stupid enough to try something like that.

But yea, the pain's nearly gone so i won't have to worry about it for too much longer. Just have to worry next gym class to make sure nobody else falls on top of me