Rizul

Alright both of you, don't get in a hissy fit over yesterday ok? Please, I have my fair share of drama thanks to the Peach boards xD

On a more serious note

Rizul: Chis didn't purposely hit/kill you with Uair, it was an accident. I think I phased out at one point and F Throwed Kataefi cause I thought we were doing an FFA. Please try not to get sore over it, the games are for fun after all

Chis: I understand you're not used to team fights but just be a bit more careful with your partner. If someone accidently kills their team mate, just let them know it was an accident by turning around on the spot or taunting

Come on guys, don't get in arguements about this. Crap happens and both me and Kataefi would hate it if we couldn't play team games over something as silly as this k?

Please just apologise and make up with each other, we're all friends here and we all work together to improve

Why would I care? I've got pros on my friend list. Next time you want to moan about wifi, leave me out of it. Basically, grow up lol

QQ more .

Just get over it.

Yeah... ivysaur's razor leaf is so difficult to avoid in lag as is DIing charizard's flame breath I mean I always get the timing of that wrong and get hit by them =p

Din's is the worst projectile in the game lmao! I personally am more worried about taking unncecessary percents and deaths from every other projectile in the game online than din's rizul =D I'm so thankful you don't use samus.

No. They are the same thing. If you can't get over this that's your problem. Kind of hypocritical that you choose to sink our team and hit me with two uairs huh? So don't get all whiney about brawl to me thanks.

Easy Rizul, I could tell you were getting pissed. It's not like I mean to hit you, I'm just used to 1 vs 1. But gay stuff happens to me all the time but I just brush it off and carry on. It's just a game, chill man. :/

Besides that, GG's. :/

Yeah I think Usmash has 2 hits but it's so strong! I love ftilting people it feels so wrong to do it but it's free damage =p

Careful with din's... I often use it hoping it hits before and after the hitbox of an aerial, it can actually hit quite a few times offline surprisingly. The only reason I din's as much as I do online is because it's the only thing she has that doesn't need a sense of precision and spacing =p

Gosh, I hate it so much to team up with Chis. I can't tell how many times he killed or gimped me.

Oh really? I would imagine squirtle's quite effective against aerialist characters because of his amazing speed. Yeah he's exactly like wario in a way I guess!

Depending on the spacing you can't really SDI Fsmash all the time, you'll get sucked in eventually lol! Slow, 'punisher' characters like zelda, chars, ivysaur, ganon, iceclimbers etc etc amongst others I believe find it difficult to move and react to fast-paced characters like squirtle especially in (wait for it)... lag =p haha! So two can play at that game

It's why in general jigglypuff is said to be very viable against many characters on wifi =p I think Sheik can fall into this category due to the immense movement and also attack speed, so attacking people's shield is safer because they react a lot slower (in general).

I'd never go solo one or the other in this matchup (between S/Z), much the same way you'd never stay as all one pokemon. EDIT: oh and yeah charizard is tough as hell! I'd probably still stay as sheik but yeah you're right I don't really know the matchup too well =(

Lol don't worry about it, we all hit each other by accident or phase out and start to hit the other person I kept Fairing Kataefi all the time and we all get lightning kicked at least once Lol, last time I paired with Chis I pulled out a Bo-omb, Glide Tossed it straight into him and we both blew up and died xD

That's just team games for you, they're hectic and it's natural for people to accidently kill each other when they're concentrating on hitting someone else

I'll go with you next time if you like. It's nice for us all to rotate and team with each other, it adds to some variety

Yea I took your advice and tried to not be as agressive. I've been looking into the match up and been reading some stuff and it turned out I hadn't a clue how to PT match up went. DeDeDe is still hard though...his Bair stops just about everything I throw at it D:

Lol.... what's up with rock smash?! 41% damage right off the bat =p

I'm so thankful to be able to switch between the two... I don't think sheik does well against squirtle at all but zelda can put up a decent fight, he's so light! Ivysaur I'd go as zelda because of the whole weak to fire element, so it's so easy to kill him/her/it lol but Charizard is by far the hardest =O I think Sheik does okay if played patiently! What's it like from your end?

oh wait... you're all back on again except chis!

erm ??? lol! I just ended the match to do some teams and got chucked out of the whole game. I'm online now but all 3 of all appear to be offline.

I'll be online now! Looks like rick beat me to it so hopefully I can catch both of you on there.

Hey there, fancy any matches today?

I'm determined to crack the DeDeDe and PT match ups so that I don't feel as helpless when fighting them

I am available today actually =D I can't play now though,possibly in an hour?

No no it's fine it's nice of you to think like but I personally prefer to to keep on trying rather than give up

And Wario does pretty much have similar problems yea

...I'd rather you didn't pick other characters to make me feel better, I find it a bit patronizing. I won't learn how to improve and win otherwise

And I was supposed to shield or at least wait for the punch to happen so I could punish but I can't punish to save my life on Wi Fi

I hate blaming things on Wi Fi but I can't see where I'm going wrong apart from that I got a bit agressive in some matches. I press shield and I still get hit. I input an airdodge and it doesn't come out and I get hit. I Glide Toss and I roll instead. I drop from the ledge to an autocancelled Fair, I either Nair or do a laggy landing Fair and get killed. I try to OoS attack, I get hit by something or miss. I try time to an attack to punish a missed move, I end up hitting a shield and get grabbed. I input a Float, I end up in the wrong position and smack bang into an attack. I try to SH Dair to Float, I end up double jumping because the Dair wasn't registered

I hate myself for johning like this but I manage to do things fine offline and I react well to stuff like aerial pressure and stuff but I either just seem to mess up or I end up panicing that I'm going to get hit if I input something because it won't work in input lag

I'm not saying you haven't improved because you have but I'm sick to death of the lag ruining my already has-to-be-tight spacing and various other things I try and do

Urgh...well some of those matches were a joke. GG's I guess

I'm so sick of Wi Fi. What am I doing wrong? I just see to run into everything and I get bloody grabbed so much and I absolutely suck at grabbing back. I seem to get shield grabbed every two seconds, run right in aerials and smash attacks, fail to OoS attack anything and I can't seem edgeguard to save my life

Edit: My older brother, yea he's not very good at Smash

I know I'm agressive now and then but what else am I supposed to do? I can't seem to do anything right. I try and play defensive and I still get shield grabbed and ****. I just get hit. I'm getting worse at this game every day it seems

Sure yea if you see me online just give me a shout and host a room

Ah my exams are over with now thankfully, just have to wait until results day. I won't know how I've done until then

Nah I do understand what you're saying and unfortunetly you're right. She's like a better version of Sonic if you ask me. Long gone are the days I could just Float and Dair and get away with it. Most people know what to do against Peach nowadays...things get a lot harder for me

I'm not going to drop Peach but I do feel pretty limited these days. I should probably look into using a secondary which doesn't have horrible weaknesses or try and improve Sonic a bit more

Sorry about the IC's thing, I was curious to see if it worked. At least it wasn't that DeDeDe style **** you gave DK xD I wanted to see how bad things were when I used him btw...turns out it is very bad indeed

Don't worry about, the games were all very close. Squirtle gave me a pretty hard time - I can't just throw Bair and Dair around like I can against Wario which is very annoying. Squirtle also has a pretty large grab range. I need to use more OoS stuff to stop him but I always end up getting dash grabbed...my reaction is so delayed when it comes to grabbing ><

Ivysaur and Charizard...yea they're nowhere near as good as Squirtle. Ivysaur has Razor Leaf which is annoying but it's not that great and she also has rubbish recovery and is fairly large/heavy. Charizard is massive and even heavier. He's only really got Fair and Rock Smash, both of which can be punished if they miss

Those suicides were fairly rubbish, don't worry about them, people do it all the time. Lol, I was on a roll chasing you're Ivysaur, I Up + B'ed, close the Parasol and fell right to my death which was silly xD The semi spike to footstool thing you're Charizard did...Lol I wasn't even sure what was going on. I hate getting footstooled, it's like instant death for Peach

I won't do the grab release thing if you want but the timing is pretty tight for it anyway and a couple of times I got grabbed and D Throwed by Squirtle xD But yea, the grab releases are stupid and as are the character destroying chaingrabs. Sometimes I wonder what the developers were thinking

Edit: That reminds me, do you know Squirtle's AT's like Hyroplaning and stuff like that? They might be of use. You should check them out sometime

:/ I don't like Turnip spamming that much though. The problem is that I seem to crash into things when I don't and that usually results in Peach dieing because she's about as heavy as a feather

The original Smash Bros is so much fun! I use Falcon too There's no Peach but it's still fun to abuse Dair like no tomorrow xD I was very surprised at how easy it is to tech on Smash Bros. I can L cancel as well which amazes me since I still can't do it in Melee

I'll be online soon if you're up for some games btw

Ah yea I thought so

Mmm the pokemon are pretty annoying :/ Ivysaur is probably the easiest to deal with but Charizard and his Rcok Smash are irritating. Then there's Squirtle...ack his aerials are very annoying indeed and I keep getting grabbed/shield grabbed. I always get grabbed but I'm crap at grabbing back >.>

Yea Squirtle's D Throw is very strong but try to avoid using it at lower percents where it won't kill me or it'll get stale. Speaking of stale moves, I really need to find something other than Peach's Fair to kill with...it's pretty annoying watching you live to around 170% + every stock

K I'm online now. I won't be on later this evening though D:

Sure but could you give me a few minutes? I'm just about to have something to eat. English breakfast ftw

Yeah Rizul we shall definitely have games soon! I really want some PT/SheikZelda battles... I'm reeeeeeeally enjoying them. I'm trying to encourage people I play offline to pick him up.

I don't suppose you main toon link also do you? I'm having problems with him and it's very annoying. It'd do me good to get more practise against him. If not then don't you worry =D

Anyways just to let you know I'm wii-less until monday now =( so we'll play after then.

I had to grab some food and I'd completely lost my concentration in those games. I was playing with Chis earlier and when we got to team games, I'd phased out entirely xD

Noooooooo! Bowser's too good! You can't drop him!

I find p.trainer and sheik/zelda a very interesting matchup. I'd like to try it out more when we get a chance to play. It's like a game of chess imo where we both need to transform at the right times to take the lead.

Ivysaur's Up Smash is ridiculous O.o Where do you DI for Bullet Seed again? I hate trying to Di on Wi Fi ><

Squirtle makes me chuckle and yea he is kind of like Wario. How come you never use his Down Throw? It's incredibly strong when Squirtle isn't fatigued and it's a very good kill move for him

GG's Rizul. Darn Dedede D:

Good teams!

And... who exactly do you main lol?! I swear it's like a different character everytime =D Ivy's upsmash is mad strong >.<

Rizul come online!

There's chis and rick on as well

Hey there, sorry I had to leave so quickly yesterday Hopefully maybe later today me you Chis and Kata can get some team games in or we could just have some 1 vs 1's?

Yeah you're right Rizul. I'm getting a bit tired of all the fighting over there. I'll sort it out now.

Up for some matches Rizul?

No it's fine, gimme a sec I'll be online soon but I can't stay on for long though