Rizul

Hey there, sorry I've been away for so long, I have had so much work recently xD and I've got even more as well, so it looks like I'll still be very busy anyway

Ooh you have SF4 matches up? Mind if I watch them (wherever they are)? I've never played the game but I'd still be itnerested to see them xD

Yea I know, sorry I've been pretty busy with coursework :x hopefully I can have some games sometime soon

Nah, you really are very good.

Anyway, I g2g. Dinner. We never eat this early :l. Lol, sorry. To be continued.

Meh, well, I just feel she's incredibly bad compared to others. And Rickerdy... He's just really good. Really really really good. Which is why he should go to a tourney. >_<

But let's play, you're online! :D

Peach is very, very bad in lag. She might look good at first, but she's really bad.

A Peach player should react well at what the opponent does and punish well, which is why Peach is rarely able to go aggressive all the time. Wi-Fi ruins this. I know this sounds strange, but I can't say it in any other way.

Peach's spacing is VERY important. Ruined. Peach has a good pressure game. Ruined. Not to mention some follow-ups are harder. She is very vulnerable to anti-aerial attacks. Her ground game sucks. Float canceling is very hard to do well (though this is not a huge problem for most but I do use it quite often myself, so for me, this is pretty bad). Her ledge options get worse. This all result into much, much worse match-ups.

Dair really isn't that unpunishable. However, that's not the most important thing, the point is that it's just hard to pressure with Dair. So even if you connect it isn't as rewarding at all, not to mention she reacts worse to DI, something she can usually follow and punish. Her lagless aerials is her only good thing, but that's not that good.

I know many characters get nerfed on Wi-fi, but I think she just gets a much worse treatment. At least, this is how I feel.

Zelda and Ness are my secondaries. However, let's say they are worse than my BY FAR. Even though Peach is my main, I'm not even so good with her (especially not on Wi-fi where she suffers a lot but thankfully are matches have little lag), so let alone Zelda and Ness. But you'll see when we play.

And my usual times... I'm sorry, I don't have them We'll just see who's online. We can also exchange MSN, if you want.

Sorry, some of our family friends have come round and want to use the Wii to play Wii Sports >.>

Characters with fast moves or very long range moves can be pretty dangerous on Wi Fi like Sheik. Kind of like what you said about Peach. Lol sorry about G&W, I was using Random at the time and happened to get him 3 times xD I don't blame you for complaining at all, his smashes and aerials are absolutely ridiculous in lag, its impossible to punish them and its so easy to die from an F Smash or D Smash

Yea Samus is gay on Wi Fi, Zair is too good lol. You still managed to 2 stock me xD

Ahh sorry, if you're still there I'd be up for some games

Heh, I'll try and take the games less seriously as well xD We can just try and enjoy them and have fun :D

I'm sorry, I'm a bit busy (which explains my late response). Maybe tomorrow xd

She definitly gets some benefits being online and some of her moves do work better like Jab and Peach Bomber and in some cases Dair and the inability to powersheild Turnips but she does suffer like other people. Floating and getting Floating aerials to space well can be a bit tricky with input lag, Bone Walking is impossible and she also dies pretty easily and can't kill very well at all, which is never very good in general anyway. I don't like going agressive, it just gets me grabbed more and being agressive paticularly offline is bad...although sometimes Peach doesn't have much choice against characters like Falco where she needs to get in really quick due to his lasers :<

Tbh, I don't think I really appreciate what its like to fight Peach, paticularly with other characters. I mean, I very rarely ever play against other Peach's and when I do, I'm Peach anyway and its just another match up for me :x

I'm pretty horrible with every single other character though, I could really do with working on all the other cast. It was interesting fighting Peach with other characters rather than Peach. I'm alright with Peach dittos but I didn't really know what I was doing with any other characters :/ With Lucario for example I just tried to spam F Smash xD


What is playing competitive Pokemon like? I've heard it can be a bit random at times with Critical Hits and stuff

GG's wow I did so badly when you used Peach and I used Lucario xD I kind of wish I wasn't so rubbish with other characters :/ You using Peach was interesting though, I need to try pulling back more often when doing my aerials to avoid sheild grabbing and try get some Jab mix ups in there...I'm scared of doing them incase I get grabbed :x

I hate fighting Falco :< His lasers just shut down my projectile game and his Jab and Bair outrange most of what Peach can do ><

Speaking of Falco, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I pulled out that Bob-omb and it exploded cause you shot a laser at it...regardless, it was pretty funny xD


Steel type Pokemon are good? O.o I've always thought they were a bit rubbish...guess I don't know a lot about Pokemon xD Is there any 'Meta Knight' of the Pokemon world, you know a Pokemon thats broken/been banned?

Oh :O Which type is the best Pokemon type then?

And yup sure I'll be online in a sec

Oh no it is mine but they come over to visit every once in a while and they love playing on the Wii so I kind of have to let them go on it lol

I've never thought Grass or Poison type were great, paticularly Poison. Psychic type are definilty my favourite. Dragon type are cool but Ice type moves completely wreck them :x

Nah this time it was my cousins after the Wii...I didn't get it back :/

Yea recovering with Peach Bomber was a stupid idea I don't know why other Peach's do it. I won't be making that mistake again

Feel free to use lots of Aura Spheres if you want xD Man Lucario seriously hurts when he's got some damage :/ I'm still really at a loss as to where you DI his moves :x

Do you play Pokemon competitvly at all?

Lol xD Yea I'll be online soon and I don't mind Mario I just wanted to play some more games with your Wario that time xD

GG's I don't think I got grabbed as much those times...I've been trying to take on board what people have been saying and mix it up/avoid dropping down so close to someone whos sheilded my Fair. Sorry if I seemed a bit spammy with Turnips :x

You made one hell of a comeback with Lucario :/ its really hard hitting Lucario without landing into his F Smash which kills really early when partially charged/hes at a high %

And ARGGHHH I hate Lylat Cruise so much xD

Edit: Also, I feel bad for using Peach Bomber and getting away with it :/ Only on Wi Fi...

Ohh yea, have you seen the video showing Warios hitboxes? His Dair, Uair and paticularly his F Tilt are huge in comparison to his body

That would have made a hilarious story if the cat had been on fire or the mouse had been evil xD

I'll be online in a sec

Arggggghhh are you still there? Up for some more games? :/ And lol sorry I didn't feel like playing vs Mario I like to have aat least 2 or 3 games vs one character if thats ok

I'm really sorry about leaving so quickly, I can explain...so during that match, I heard this scream downstairs. Turns out it was my mum, my neighbours cat (he visits us sometimes) had brought in a mouse >.>

So I opened my door to go downstairs and sort it out but as IK was going downstairs, the cat ran up into my room with the bloody mouse. I ran back up and managed to persuade the cat to drop the mouse aka I poured a load of water on it xD

Amazingly, the mouse was ok so I tried to pick it up and put it outside but it ran into a corner and it took my ages to get it to go into this box so I could take it outside :/ I then had to take the cat back to my neighbours so they could keep an eye on it...so yea, there you go


I've been wondering, I know I get grabbed a fair bit...but how/why? When do you look for getting a grab on me? What is it that gets me grabbed? I'm just curious, no one else seems to have this problem :/ Also, I've been a bit selfish on this issue - is there anyone you'd rather me use sometime? Peach must be a bit boring for you now and then

I see you're online x3 Wanna brawl?

Just go with who you think you'll do best with

And lol, there are quite a few euro players who use Peach/Zelda xD

Well if you need me, I normally visit the forums at this time, maybe about 1 or 2 hours earlier thats when I get home anyway

Up for some games? Pretty busy day today but should hopefully be able to slot some in somewhere

I don't really like using MSN, not had great experiences with it lol

Mmm its a bit of a pain contacting on the forums but I visit reasonably frequently so I shouldn't miss messages too often unless I'm really busy D:

I'm ready when you are~

Yea Falco is pretty rough for Peach, Praxis wasn't lieing :/ He completly outcamps her and his Nair and Jab just wreck a lot of what she can do. Hes faster than her as well...at least Peach can give him some trouble recovering

With MK, just remember to try OoS Up + B's more, I've heard its good when Peach is hitting his sheild. F Tilt works generally against air approaches. Watch out for Turnips, I will spam them all I can especially since OoS Turnips are really good vs MK

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Why am I telling you how to beat me ><

Mmm I've been trying to rethink my approaches against different characters, I think it turned out ok
Tbh, I'd say we're both a pretty even skill level now, with matches every now and then fluctuating into one persons favour (what do you reckon?)

Something thats massively erking me is recovery :/ Ledgehop Fair has completely lost its touch now, everything Peach does seems really unsafe minus dropping down and attempting to plank for a bit but that doesn't actually get me back onstage :/

I know, I know, I whine about Wi Fi but...it just depresses me some of the stuff we get away with or some of the stuff that happens I just wish we could both play with no lag and then we could both get so much better because we'd know what would and wouldn't work

Yea there were some nasty lag spikes, I thought we were going to disconnect at one point :x

I'll try and stop getting angry at Wi Fi I swear xD You're great fun to play against...and the character variety, reminds me I need to actually learn some match ups properly rather than cut and paste a Fair filled match

I'm not going to be too surprised if Sonic does drop. I don't know about many of his match ups but he just doesn't really have any approaches at all. Peach can be frustrating sometimes when I mess up and get grabbed for example but Sonic...its just not fun at all when the person you're up against knows how to deal with you. My Sonic isn't good anyway but when you rely on constant punishment and considering the lack of kill moves he has...I just prefer using Peach

GG's, I think I handled some of those match ups better...well as best as I could on Wi Fi

I know sometimes I seem like I'm massively predictable but I'm being honest when I say its lag. I'm sure its the same for you but my general 'everything' is better offline. Its just such a massive pain in the arse to be precise with Peach...so I end up just spamming Dair and Fair a lot of the time and Bair vs Wario (although Peach mains say that works offline so I guess thats alright :/). My Turnip and grab game are so bad online, I always end up grabbing when i know the grab isn't going to reach and I pull up Turnips at such rubbish places. I hate not being able to Bone Walk on Wi Fi, it really helps when trying to camp with Turnips

Also lmao at that PT ditto I was doing so well and then I was going to try and Razor Leaf you but I accidently did an Up + B and fell to my death >.>

Yup I'll be online in a sec Lol I'm not out for revenge as such...but I must be honest, I don't like losing If I do lose, I prefer to keep trying and find out where I've gone wrong...it can only help me get better

And I'm not sure Kata has been quite busy with the Zelda boards recently...atm they have more dram than the Peach Boards :O

I just need to keep up playing defensive, I just end up rushing in and getting really badly punished for it. My impatience is really letting me down :/ My Peach can change provided I mix it up but a lot of those matches I just agressively spammed the same stuff over and over again...but I see what you mean, at the end of the day I'm still using the same character all the time so you can expect most of what she can do

Eh my Sonic is pretty bad and tbh, he becomes incredibly hard to win with when you know the match up. DeDeDe isn't a great match up for him anyway Sonic isn't as good as I thought he was, he has pretty much no approach options and since his recovery is actually really quite punishable since he doesn't have any super powered aerials like Snake and he doesn't auto snap to the ledge

MK isn't as bad as he used to be because of Bone Walking. Turnips are already good vs MK but with Bone Walking, its much easier to pull a Turnip and avoid punishment. Its kind of the same with Marth but you can get away with more spaced Fairs/Bairs

I just feel like I don't know what I'm doing vs Lucario. Like for example, when I'm about to come down with a Fair, I know I'm going to get F Smashed but I get so stressed that if I don't do it I'll be punished for not trying to hit you cause of the lag...so I just drop down with a badly spaced Fair and proceed to get punished

I'll work on the other match ups and have a think through them because all I've really been playing against is Wario who requires a completely different style of Peach playing

MK and Marth aren't much of a problem provided I don't play too agressivly, Falco is meh, but I really need to work on the Lucario match up because I just get comboed to death and run into moves that kill me. I don't have real idea where his hitboxes are and where to DI/how to punish his moves

GG's...lol I started off really campy and slowly got more and more agressive :/ I've really got to stop that since you just run back and forth and hit me out of stuff. I start up really bad habits when I get impatient and agressive like approaching with a Float and spamming Fair and Dair and completely ignoring my Turnip game

Sure, just need to finish off this little bit of work and then I'll be online Should hopefully be done soon

Yea sorry, I got given a ton of work all in for the next day...and I've been getting more and more. Been cracking on with it though so hopefully tomorrow I can have some games

Hey I'd love to but I'm pretty busy tonight Hopefully I'll be around tomorrow though and we can have some games then

Use whoever you want, I don't mind if you play as Wario for example, the matches will just take a very long time xD

Whats SF4 like as a game? I've only played on SF2 once and I had no idea what I was doing

Sure Rizul! I'm free now if you'd like to play! Let me come on msn.

Heh I thought I'd throw it in a few times and see if I got lucky...sorry, I know its only because of the input lag, what I'm trying to do is catch you on the way down from the air in the very small window where you've got just a few frames of landing lag...which is stupid of me really since thres so many better moves I could use. I won't use it again in a hurry though because when it did miss I got F Smashed like you said xD Ouch :x

Lol message at the same time again xDD

Yea I wish Peach had her old F Throw and old D Smash from Melee, she would really be a force to reckoned with. Her F Throw was actually strong from what I saw in the betas of Brawl and killed at about 130-140% but it looks like they took it out :/

GG's, thanks for your advice yesterday btw, I tried to take it on board...its been really helpful thanks again

Lol I tripped quite a few times in our games, the most memorable ones of me tripping when trying to grab release Up Smash you...and me tripping and then getting grabbed released Up Smashed xD Peach vs Wario is such a horrible match up, neither side can approach each other...its just so boring :/ Don't get me wrong, your Wario is super good and easily your best character but the Peach vs Wario match up is just...arrggghh

Nice to see you're using Bowser again Have your tried his grab release stuff? The timing for it looks pretty strict and I imagine its even harder on Wi Fi :x

My Sonic is dreadful these days...although tbh hes not a fantastic character anyway. Once you know his tricks (which you do), he becomes so much easier

AH well I'm back now so I'm ready whenever you are

Sure I'll be on in a sec but I'm having some food in about 20-30 mins so I won't be aroung that long, I'll be back though

Also, I wouldn't mind some games with your Wario at first and yea I've been neglecting Sonic but...hes just not as good as Peach