ZOMBIES! Mafia - Who Survived the Apocalypse?

[#HBC | J]

Ran stop breaking rules just to be social. Lmao.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

@ Wots All This Then? you been lurkin, got any thoughts to share?

Thinking you/rake vs moira is svt. That might just be the nature of how you guys are going at it though. Fmpov its easier to see macs thoughts and follow that train through but I'm obviously biased when it comes to that argument so I'm prolly not the best person to comment on it. Nl and ryu is bugging me. Dunno if soup was just hella fine interacting early on but that post J quoted (the one about soup acknowledging ryu as potentially flipping town) is something I would actually tend toward being a connection rather than disconnection as it feels like soup trying to get a partner viewed as more townie early on if that makes sense.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

VOTECOUNT:
Moira [0] -
Wots All This Then? [3] - Rockin, Moira, No Lynch
-Masquerain- [6] - Rake, -Masquerain-, Ashemu, Macman, Gorf, WATT
Ashemu [0] -
Gorf [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Macman [0] -
Rake. [0] -
Rockin [0] -
Circuss [0] -

Not Voting - Circus,
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

A lynch has been reached! Day ends in 24 hours.

Joey, Cunning Manipulative Citizen, Independent Baiting Abductor, has been lynched!

Ranmaru has returned to the game!

Night 2 Begins! Send in your actions by Thursday, 11:59 PM!

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

...surprisingly, no one died.
DAY 3 Begins! Deadline set to 6/9 at 11:59 PM EST
VOTECOUNT:
Moira [0] -
Wots All This Then? [0] -
Ashemu [0] -
Gorf [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Macman [0] -
Rake. [0] -
Rockin [0] -
Ranmaru [0] -
Circus[0] -

Not voting: Moira, Wots All This Then?, Ashemu, Gorf, No Lynch, Macman, Rake., Rockin, Ranmaru, Circus

 

[#HBC | Mac]

vote: rockin

let's play follow the cop

 

[Circus]

...surprisingly, no one died

 

[#HBC | Mac]

don't think just vote rockin

 

[Circus]

Results from Rake, WATT, and Gorf first.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

WATT should reveal first since he's the most suspect claim

 

[Circus]

You just said we should play Follow the Cop.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

yea i mean rockin's dying today, but watt / rake / gorf should do their whole thing too

 

[Wots All This Then?]

No Lynch is not mafia.

 

[Circus]

Mac, why Rockin and not Moira?

 

[ranmaru]

ugh

I felt like I was a sage in ocarina of time, where I had to hold everything in and suffer. I didn't even have a dead qt to splurge my thoughts in.

hi guys

 

[ranmaru]

Dislike this from Ranmaru. He chooses to side against No Lynch after the Ryu vs. No Lynch debacle which makes it seem like he is trying to help get pressure off his buddy from Ashy/No Lynch so somewhat of a chainsaw defense here. Could see Ran just derping and choosing to look at No Lynch because of the way he likes to be the "hipster reader" of people and go for anything unpopular and push it but this is something to note. His "serious" reasoning on No Lynch is actually complete garbage. Based on his reasoning, he presents that Gheb is OMGUS'ing WATT but decides to put no pressure on him, why? We will get an answer toMorrow it seems when Ran is back in the game.

J, just one question. Why do you state my reasoning is garbage now, but originally state that you sided with me when the game started?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

why the **** is ran here now?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ranmaru [0] -

what the fu-

oh RIGHT the abduction i guess ran got released

i don't want him back joey should have kept him

 

[Xivii]

Lol this is like ultimate scum ****

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

hey so that no kill is pretty ****ing weird considering the fact a tracker/voyeur/cop/doctor would be downright brokenly op so something tells me we got a liar on our hands

 

[ranmaru]

I think one scum is gorf.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

don't think just vote rockin

 

[ranmaru]

Mac, why Rockin and not Moira?

 

[Circus]

Mac, I see you.

But you're kind of confusing me right now.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Mac, why Rockin and not Moira?

we can deal with em tomorrow

but we need to stick to our priorities

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

no dude not right now im not letting this PR parade ****ing go on anymore someone is lying and a part of me despite WATT 'clearing' me is leaning on the direction of him

 

[ranmaru]

I'll post the case on Gorf I made the night I was kidnapped (lol).

Spoiler

Gorf stuff

Uhh how did you even get this from that vote? If you kept this up I'mma be peeved.

Vote: No Lynch (hydra)

You're being fishy. Who of you two made this post? This feels really bold of you to posture yourself like this, and in reality THIS does nothing but try and reverse the progression that ash was looking to make with this game by outright saying that what he's doing (which is, for all intents and purposes, getting us out of RVS by making an actual claim on an actual topic) is wrong. Oh and the tone is just ****in weird.

*like* because #lolformattingNL'sname

But yea Ran you should specify that vote if you plan on keeping it there.

@Ashemu your reasoning on Ruy is very fair, but let me put it into perspective: I've AT MINIMUM suspected Ruy of being scum in literally every game I have played with him since coming back to DGames because of how teribly anti town he just is. I will absolutely lynch his *** if he gathers enough interest because he's on my policy list. But if he's scum, his current play isn't why.

Gorf here votes NL for posturing, and 'reversing' the progress of Ash's posts early game. So at the time, I was feeling he was genuine for bringing out a vote against NL for what seemed to be solid reasoning.

Notice how here he mentions me but doesn't actually talk about the content of my push nor does he state that he agrees with it or disagrees with it. Keep this in mind for later.

I... I just don't know how. All I can say is just try and hopefully people will read you right and I'll piggy back on their reads.

@No Lynch you're missing the point. You shut that avenue, the only avenue that could lead to stances being taken, completely off. It'd have been interesting to see perspectives on ash's read on Ruy, but by acknowledging it as an argument not worth pursuing three pages into the game, you are actually halting progression of the game. A wagon forming on Ruy could have been telling of something. Stances saying that Ashemu took an easy route could have been telling of something. But I guess we'll never have a legit handle of how people could've seen that aside from "ashemu did the thing that logic pointed to so he's a townlean," and if anybody wants to comment otherwise, go ahead.

Btw this is the point where I'm starting to think "ruy sure seems scummy for non ruy related reasons," only now I'm not sure if my "non ruy related reasons" are actually just ruy related reasons...

Wishy-washy on Ryu. He doesn't really point out what makes him waver on his ruy 'he's not scum here' read.

Wait why are people townreading this slot? Cuz he's ****in stupid?

I really hope that this isn't why people are townreading Ran.

Let me summarize the problem with townreading Ran right off the bat: emulation. Nuf ****ing said. Now please everyone stop mindlessly townreading Ranmaru and please actually look at his posts. Thank you.

Ash u r the only 1 who underst ands me tyvm

***** fight me

Here, Gorf asks if people are townreading me for being dumb. He says that the problem with townreading me on meta is emulation, and that's all he says.

Second, he doesn't follow up with his NL push. He simply tells Mac to fight him in a joking manner.

unvote

vote ran

Gorf voting me doesn't line up with him telling people not to townread me. Yet, he never actually made a push of his own or voiced his concerns about me beforehand. He never gave a reason, he simply said that so he could justify voting me. Rather, so that he would be able to make a push towards me for [reasons] but none that he had a problem with.

Now come back to the first quote. Notice how the only mention of me he has is "Ran, go ahead and specify your vote if you mean to vote for NL (Hydra)." He never comments on what I said in RVS, stating if he agreed with it or disagreed with it. I would think it would be an important piece of reading me, and NL. It would make sense for him to comment on it since I was pushing towards NL while he was also uncomfortable with him at the time.

He also never really contributed to Mac's argument. I find it odd that he picked the crux of what I was looking at (NL fumbling over WATT 'giving up' on his vote) but never felt the need to comment on my reasoning nor on Mac's argument. He simply just band-wagoned. That is one of the stronger vibes I get of Gorf being scum. I didn't see it until later on in the day (and a re-read).

Ran I think you smell bad.

As you know Gorf doesn't actually elaborate on his stance of me. (I made a joke about showering hoping to talk to him about his problem with me, and Ruy later asked him to explain his stance but never did)

I feel the only thing he COULD say he had a problem with was my Ashemu vote, but can't say anything about my earlier content because he never called me dumb for it. He simply didn't feel like commenting on me at the time.

There is such a **** load of scum in this game that it's unsettling. I'm honestly not sure if WATT is a part of that grouping but will shamelessly sheep Mac if he joins the wagon. I mean, sure the slot is on the armchair and needs to be more proactive, but in hindsight that in and of itself isn't scummy. He's played at least a moderately analytic game, which is cool, but his touch does feel really... soft, if that makes sense. Let's just say that I'm open to being wrong on my town lean on the slot.

In the blue he states that he isn't sure that WATT is part of his scum grouping, and then he states in the orange that he'll sheep if Mac joins. (Too easily I say) Purple he states that he feels soft and that he is open to being wrong. He is keeping his option open, publicly.

3 other stances
IGMEOY NL

Not quite as content with what MUST be a decent amount of town as I'd like to be but I feel like these four slots are slots that NEED attention. More on that and other significant stuff later.

Here is what I don't like. He continues to dislike NL without much reasoning or really much pushing. I don't think nothing of it, since Gorf is only being anti-town.

This doesn't reassure me of anything I hope you know. Oh and ****in directly referring to your other head is kinda counter productive if your goal is to be treated as one head.

Are you just ignoring my point completely on purpose or do you not see it? Your push was "ruy is scummy cuz x and y" and his counter was to shut it down completely ["ruy stop doing things people consider scummy cuz I don't want to lynch you and flip town"] and just... leave it at that?

This is his last post regarding Gorf's push on NL. He states that Soup's reply doesn't reassure him of anything. Yet he never really concludes on this later on (keep this in mind).

let me start off by saying that my feel for disliking the nl slot was generated entirely from my earlier sentiments and that it was less justified than my feels of rockin and joey. and no i'm not gonna ****in try n paint a portrait of teams n whatnot, these players are individually scummy to me and throughout that's changed little. nl, however, has shown me that, although some of their theories are odd at best, i enjoy their output and feel that lynching them toDay is a mistake, so i'd rather keep my mind focused on the three scummy players chosen. i think that the case on me is stupid and i will treat it like it doesn't exist. nanny nanny boo boo.

So Gorf mentions that his dislike of NL was simply from his early game. Yet as I said, he never made a solid conclusion to his early dislike with reference to NL. He simply says that he enjoyed their output, and due to that, feels he was mistaken in pushing him. He also refuses to respond to the Gorf case, while also 'enjoying' their output, possibly meaning that he has them as town while they are pushing him.

thank GOD you reminded me of how senseless your tunneling is, you are getting a stern looking at as soon as other things are dealt with.

This is the nail in the coffin for me. He takes me talking with Soup (who is continuing to ask me questions about my dislike on him and I answer him as best I can) as senseless tunneling, which is far from that. I think I had good reason to dislike him for CURRENT/RECENT reasoning, and yet Gorf doesn't take this into account. He only takes this as an opportunity to **** on me and to say "I'm going to NOW look at you" without having a good reason to actually look at me.

He doesn't take into account that I have a confident read on NL, and find things suspicious of NL even in the later D1. He doesn't have much room to say that I'm tunneling NL senselessly. I won't deny that I have been on NL from the very very beginning, yet it was not senseless. This gives me the feeling he isn't genuinely looking into NL, nor is he genuinely looking into what I'm trying to say and why I may be bringing it up. He only pushes NL on something that isn't really suspicious (for defending ryu indirectly, and saying he wasn't reassured by NL's responses) and doesn't conclude his read after a while. His reasoning for liking NL isn't good enough either.

In conclusion, I feel Gorf is laid back scum, who was only voting/'pushing' NL as a show, and not a genuine push. This is shown by his lack of conclusion, his lack of contribution to my rvs reasoning on NL (even when Mac brought up the argument) when he had a slight issue with the crux of the argument, his piggybacking on my wagon and others (or being open to wagons such as his townleans just because Mac might be on it), and his mudslinging towards me late D1, which doesn't make sense, but only in the sense of him painting me in a bad light.

Yea Ruy > WATT. Ruy's claim had me scratching mah head, watt's feels more like he's been playing a PR game and I had thought that all the way till I put em higher on the would lynch list. Good shiz though we have one scumbag gone (unless there's two watchers watchers lolol). Also let's take note that there's something funny about Ruy's lack of initial flavor claim aye?

vote red ruy

AWW MOTHA ****A I DIDNT WANNA DO THAT.

unvote

And by do that I mean hammer him. ****in ninja'd as ****.

Vote: Red Ryu

Watt is lying, I was told by the mod watcher was a safe claim, so either the mod messed up or he is a mafia watcher himself.
Btw there are two scum teams, go scum.

I'm taking Ryu's revelation as null as I said. I also wouldn't look at anyone else but the people who 'accidently' hammered Ryu before Ryu 'self-hammered' himself. To me Gorf voting Ryu and then retracting the intention sounds faked and orchastrated. Are we seriously going to let Gorf get away with an alpha 'by mistake'. Take that into consideration. Regardless Gorf gets no credit for getting on the wagon, and him doing that and Ryu coming in to follow up after him gives Gorf the chance of getting cred for voting him, while also misdirecting town into thinking there are two-scumteams because I feel there was plenty of content for scum-ryu to capitalize on. So before lapping up his two-team bull**** I would look at the votes very late on the wagon or those off it.

Gheb fits more as Ruy's partner imo and it makes more sense that Ruy unintentionally ****ed Gheb over.

This seems a bit reachy to me. I don't see how Ryu would claim such a thing without considering his own partner's survival. That's not cool and not thinking ahead enough. I don't think Ryu or any player would do that that is a regular in Dgames. So this doesn't make Gheb a viable partner to Ryu.

 

[#HBC | J]

Nooooooo lynch, did something uh happen to your virginity last night?

 

[ranmaru]

Vote: Gorf

I have seen that Gorf was cleared but I think he is mafia GF, who was trying to lynch the cop to lock the clear down on him. LOL that game J was in is sticking. LOCK CLEAR lmao

I think he is the pr lying out of the three

 

[ranmaru]

Also people are talking about possible bussing to ryu. No one has even looked at Gorf's and NL's votes right before ryu hammahd himself.

It seems NL is now also clear, so I'm a bit confused. I simply think Gorf is the scum out of the two in this scenario.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Nooooooo lynch, did something uh happen to your virginity last night?

i think i know what you're hinting at but before i say anything else i want to make sure, you're claiming a roleblock on us or that someone else besides baton officer visited us?

 

[#HBC | J]

Lemme get to a CPU.

 

[ranmaru]

J, once you get to a cpu, please respond to my #1775. I'm going to leave soon. Thanks.

 

[Moira]

i think i know what you're hinting at but before i say anything else i want to make sure, you're claiming a roleblock on us or that someone else besides baton officer visited us?

Lemme talk to Zen because this is one of my crazy schemes and I think he knows quite a bit about what I have in my hand considering information presented.

However, i can talk to you about something. Lol @ RB thing cuz no, look at the puzzle pieces you possess. And I am not saying the latter either. Let's have all the PRs claim *Gorf/Rake* are left, then we should have caught a mafia. Buuuut let me poise the hypothetical, you are no longer a virgin but the only one to visit you last night was sexy officer? What would be the solution?

Just agree with me if you get it, but otherwise zip it till later.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

interesting

 

[Moira]

J, just one question. Why do you state my reasoning is garbage now, but originally state that you sided with me when the game started?

When new information presents itself, you have to re-read with a clear head and train of thought. I will be honest and say I have skimmed a lot of your cases because of the sheer fact I tend to never agree with the logic or theories presented in your cases. When I sat through and looked at what you had to offer thoroughly, that's my real opinion. However, you are more than likely town due to a disconnection to Ryu and also combining the sheer fact that you are pushing Gorf when he was pretty much 100% cleared by Rake yesterDay. (P.S. I do not wanna be you when he finally comes into the thread and sees your "case" on him)

 

[Moira]

interesting

Your hard-on for Rockin instead of us does not have us (completely) jealous, but wondering why you are trying to rush the Day-Phase and QL Rockin/have him lynched over us.

 

[Moira]

Also @ Circus : We didn't notice but you are looking mighty sexy over there with that large pole you now possess.

 

[Moira]

Also, Mac, if you are claiming a cop PR or something, so help you god.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Circus didn't visit anyone last night

 

[#HBC | J]

Circus track was probably the worst person to track.