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ZOMBIES! Mafia - Who Survived the Apocalypse?

Wots All This Then?

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It's partially how hes trying to fit me in and how he went about ryu. It seems like he was trying to save ryu over lynching him by shoving my lynch through. There was also the way he opened and interacted with moira (?) And ot just seems like hes trying to swagger over a lot of things​
 

No Lynch

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Watt I'm Zen not soup.

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I'm comin' around on the not lynching WATT thing toDay. Even if he's scum, he's got to stick to his claim for the rest of the game. Best case scenario: he's town and we play a game of chicken with scum, all the while getting eventually reliable information from him. Worst case scenario: he's scum and we just lynch him later. I find it hard to believe some of the choices he's made come from a town mindset, but there's more scum to find regardless.
No, just no. You don't let scum live because you think they can be useful or because of their claim. What the heck man this is pretty scummy. I can understand peeps town reading him, but to scum read him and keep him is getting as hell.
 

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without reading the rest of the thread: circus did nothing interesting happen to you last night or are you just being evasive?
 

Ashemu

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i should have outside contact with circus right now but may have been redirected to scum because everybody has posted, the view count in the quicktopic is still going up, but nobody is responding
 

Circus

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Watt I'm Zen not soup.


No, just no. You don't let scum live because you think they can be useful or because of their claim. What the heck man this is pretty scummy. I can understand peeps town reading him, but to scum read him and keep him is getting as hell.
Explain why WATT has to die now. Explain why throwing your head against this one wall all Day when there are more that need attention is the best use of your time or anyone else's.

Look, there are plenty of things about the WATT situation that bother me (one that I haven't even touched on yet would be that if WATT is indeed town, then scum misplayed N1 spectacularly by leaving him alive), but there are also elements that make scum WATT difficult to pin. Gorf has a point that WATT absolutely could have claimed RB toDay. That he claimed a successful investigate on Gorf not only means that he's comfortable giving town information, but also that he's comfortable doing it on slots that are not obvious. I wasn't scum reading Gorf, but Gorf was hardly an agreed upon townie by the end of D1.

If it's a charade, then let him keep it up for a while. It doesn't hurt us in the slightest. I would rather him live and have to commit to more lies then lynch him now and somehow be wrong, especially when there are still plenty of slots to get reads on.
 

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without reading the rest of the thread: circus did nothing interesting happen to you last night or are you just being evasive?
Well ****, cat out of the bag, huh?

I haven't been posting because I didn't want to say anything to you until I could get more information out of Dark Horse. He gave me the least amount of information possible when he gave me the link to the QT and I was trying to figure out if you could be scum.
 

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I don't know what the **** Zen is doing but he's spinning his infinite web of WIFOM, you probably disregard any single claim he makes and/or possible theories he manages to throw out, as they are probably meant for reactions. I like the Rake direction but I think there should be a lot more delving into how the Ryu wagon formed and if there was possible bussing occurring or not. As far as I know, people have been honking their horns at the same **** we were last day, and while I think there's reason to be skeptical about WATT and his claim, I just think the push itself is evidently pointless. Let him keep up this charade for as long as he can, because it benefits us if he is legitimate or even if he is fake; I don't think he would try and clear his own partner Gorf if he is scum, and I really really wish Zen would just talk to me this game because there has just been a serious disconnection between us and that upsets me.
 

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Also, the difference between 'killed during the night', and the other message on the flips makes it more likely that there is probably one solo scum-team and an abductor, but that also means indy bull**** so I can't say I'm really happy about it. With that in mind, what does everyone think if that's true? WATT still scum?
 

No Lynch

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@Zack Fair

May I please take reigns for a while? Could you please talk to me in the QT actually? I think your direction is honestly crap and I've been demotivated personally about mafia but I have to put my foot down regardless. Thanks.
 

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Can we not turn this into unconventional arguments between our heads and could you actually cooperate with me this game because ive biting my tongue a lot on what's been said and like i dont get why you've so hard focused on this when i've insisted that what you're doing is wrong like literally you've left me in the dust please QT thank you
 

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Out of the thread until you two have sorted your **** out.

Think I'm down to **** Rake or Joey outta here toDay.
 

No Lynch

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Talk me over the joey angle. Dietz wants to look into rake but neither of us have focused much on joey
The deciding factor for Joey is whether or not you believe he would hard defend his partner in the way he did earlier D1, he practically tried to wave Ruy off as just being Ruy, and I honestly cannot remember how or why he changed onto him.
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The deciding factor for Joey is whether or not you believe he would hard defend his partner in the way he did earlier D1, he practically tried to wave Ruy off as just being Ruy, and I honestly cannot remember how or why he changed onto him.
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I just read it. He puts Ryu at L-1 with a "will explain when I can see what I'm typing" excuse, and then Ryu hammers himself.
 

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The fact that the only thing Rockin has done this game is jump on me and Gorf for not hand feeding him content when we just want content, give fluff throughout all of Day 1 aside from posting for the CC scenario, and siding with WATT lynch for crap reasons (not liking WATT's post regarding Ryu's claim before WATT actually claimed himself (which was an obvious lead in into the watcher claim) + WATT's lynch giving more information than Ryu's) is enough for me to want him out along with him being the only slot I had problems with from yesterday that isn't WATT/Gord. I believe WATT's claim, so both of those are out of the window for me.

Vote: Rockin
I literally just went to ISO and Rockin has a total of four posts this whole game unless I managed to screw something up. I was gonna ask you if you felt he would just ignore the Ruy wagon as it was happening and maybe hop on it for town points, but Rockin literally hasn't done nearly anything this whole game.

Is this typical of Rockin for either alignment? I only have base experience with him but I do think he'd be at least a bit more vocal.
 

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hey so uh the people who think watt is scum well uh what's your backup if he isn't because im just getting that vibe of 'really easy push because of something stupid they did' and i dont know i wasnt really feeling them even as they did what they did and with relevance of a more than likely abductor i dont think two teams would make much sense here but hey wifom

@Moira
 

Circus

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Is joey thr kinda guy who busses early on though? I can see joey doing this as town if its a will of the people at deadline type deal. Otherwise i think im inclined to agree
Joey was white knighting Ryu early, which I think I actually would treat as null if it weren't for the fact that Ryu later draws attention to it. I would have to go back and find the post, but at some point he says "yeah, Joey and I have a tendency to white knight each other in every game, it's whatever."

Also, the fact that Joey plunks down a vote and Red Ryu with nothing else to it, and the Ryu hammers himself five minutes later, makes it seem like it could have been coordinated. Like Ryu told Joey to vote him in the private convo or something. That's just speculation, but it looks plausible from where I'm sitting.

Plus, Rake links them both together just in the way he's been talking the whole game. I could compile examples, but if you just start reading back from around the time Ryu claims Watcher, you might see what I'm saying.
 

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WATT scum right now only adds up if he's scum with Gorf or individually scummy. I dont see him and ryu coming up with a bus a needlessly long and arbitrary like their interactions read toi me
I don't see why WATT would try and clear his own partner let alone take such a risk when WATT is under suspicion right now. I get the feeling if WATT is scum, then it's likely Gorf isn't, and he was just playing off of a rational cop fake claim.
 

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It's partially how hes trying to fit me in and how he went about ryu. It seems like he was trying to save ryu over lynching him by shoving my lynch through. There was also the way he opened and interacted with moira (?) And ot just seems like hes trying to swagger over a lot of things​
Please forgive anything Zen has done this game, it's very hard to contain him and I fought him on Ryu like literally all of last phase, I sincerely apologize.
 
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