ZGD: Livin by a thread.

[AlanHaTe]

the thing with Utilt is that if DI'd the trajectory changes a lot, unlink Usmash, the trajectory doesn't change too much, and it's not that easily SDI'd like Fsmash, or at least on my exp, the only chars that have done it to a point that really annoys are Marth, and Ness.

Uair may start killing around 80-90% obv depending on the height you are and the char's weight/momentum cancel+fast fall *looks at DDD and gets frustrated*

the Kicks are almost the same as Uair(%)

Usmash around 130% again depending on the same stuff as Uair

Utilt is a tricky one because of the DI thing

try to mess-up your opponents DI if you can via mindgames and that kind of stuff

hope this really helps

 

[Yuniverse]

well the zelda boards have def. became WAY more organized and active than ever and I am forever grateful but I generally understand the general area usmash kills, and I know only certain chars like : , and have much easier times sding the f/usmash but Im just being picky and want to know the char specific kill %'s so I dont question whether or not to use a kill move cuz i dont want to potentially stale the move when I could of done some thing else to keep the opponent away like nayru's love and keep to the smash fresh when I punish a roll or spotdoge....or If Im feeling ballsy just run up and usmash.

 

[Fuujin]

I want to spill some Zelda related Tea SOOO bad, but I'm banned from that thread :/

 

[Two-Ell]

Lol I was subbed to that thread from its beginning, but I just eventually got bored of reading it a month or two ago. Does Krys still manage it?

 

[Rizen]

Which thread?

 

[Fuujin]

Thats why they need me tbh.

I told it like it was and started enough drama make things entertaining.

Krys is still in charge of it.

 

[Alacion]

Yeah I stopped caring about that thread >_>

I dunno if ven's actually the best Zelda though... I think Riot is still pretty solid for first. Maybe we should discuss a top 5 here, and post in that thread later?

Also, Mocha could easily make the list? From what I read in the AiB Zelda boards, Linkz's region is really free... not sure how a Zelda constantly places first there.

 

[Fuujin]

Yeah I stopped caring about that thread >_>

I dunno if ven's actually the best Zelda though... I think Riot is still pretty solid for first.

How so?

No Tea No shade but what has he done that stands out and makes him any more solid of a choice than me?

 

[Alacion]

He's just a better player competing in a pretty stacked region, imo. Riot's less predictable and better at adapting.

I don't claim to be a good player or Zelda by any means, but I think this is what puts Riot above both you and ven. I don't necessarily believe results should be what decides who is first... like DarkM hasn't posted results in ages but do you really think Linkz is better than he is?

/flame shield on

 

[Fuujin]

So you think peoples opinions should be the deciding factor rather than results?

and if were REALLY going to go by regions have you seen all the regions I've played in within the last year?
That's a flawed argument considering I've been to about 4 times as many regions as him.

I personally think FAE's Lucas is amazing and could be the best from watching him play, but if Mekos and PF have better results and wins I can't go around arguing that because I like his Lucas better he should be 1st.

like DarkM hasn't posted results in ages but do you really think Linkz is better than he is?

At this point we really don't know.
If DM hasnt posted in ages and neither has links who are we to say theres no possible way Linkz isnt better than him now?
All DM has uploaded were some doubles matches.

 

[Alacion]

Well one person's opinion doesn't count for much but if multiple people agree, then we can start something. Traveling is great and all that, but doesn't prove you're a better player.

From what I've read in the Top 5 thread, various people support ven being over you.

 

[Fuujin]

Well one person's opinion doesn't count for much but if multiple people agree, then we can start something. Traveling is great and all that, but doesn't prove you're a better player.

From what I've read in the Top 5 thread, various people support ven being over you.

I'm a troll and I don't mince words and I tell it like I think it is.
I enjoy making people dislike me, that **** is fun to me.
Naturally people aren't going to want to give me praise and it's a given that I'm not going to win a popularity contest.
As many people have said, turning this into a popularity contest isn't going to solve anything other than show who people like more.

Traveling is great and all that, but doesn't prove you're a better player.

Being in a better region is great, but it doesn't prove that you're a better player.
Same principal.

If you of all people (being in charge of the video thread) REALLY agree with them on Ven being better than me then...

Edit: and opinions are opinions.
If the tier list was based on a large number of people's opinions rather than results and data do you really think Zelda would be 2nd to last with how many people overrate her?

 

[Alacion]

Isn't the Tier List the representation of the aggregation of opinions though? That's what all the numbers and statistics at the end of the list seem to indicate.

I'm off to school.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

The top 5 thread just makes me lol a lot. I truly believe Ven is deserving of a high ranking though. His accomplishments are really hard to deny. Just an opinion. I've been working Zelda really hard and did well in singles the last tourney I went to.

 

[Fuujin]

So glad you showed up.

Gonna spill this tea while you're here.

These "accomplishments" you're talking about...
Ven beat RB in POOLS at a tournament where
A) everyone makes it out of pools.
B) RB had already had guaranteed first place in his pool when they played, so RB losing had no difference either way.

So basically you've been meat riding this boy the past half year over an utterly insignificant pools win.

If you want him to move up, go tell them he should be above you.
But if you want him higher than that you're going to have to try again.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

But I've said he could be above me. I'm ok with that.

Plus he beat Z....

 

[Fuujin]

Okay?
Riots beat Dark Pch and TeeVee and I've beaten Lux and FAE.

Try again.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Ah man, isn't your win against Lux old? FAE is an awesome win though.

I've also never questioned Riot's work at all.

Honestly I congratulate you guys when I get the chance and I'm glad that this ranking thing has become so serious since I suppose it's pushing everyone more.

As far as Ven, we have Z(x2), vato, Raz, the win over RB is legit and can be vouched for, and iirc Lycan. All are good wins.

The only one who should go down is myself because I haven't taken names. I get results and do well in brackets but I'm lacking names.

Yup.

Edit: Sometimes I don't even know why I bother. I'll be expecting some sort of quirky response accompanied by a gif of some sort.

 

[Rizen]

The top 5 thread just makes me lol a lot.

^
All the threads that do ^this have a big argument over several placings.

I'm the top Link in CO and probably top Zelda too because our scene is practically dead and the good people don't bother using low tiers (besides me).

 

[#HBC | Scary]

I was gonna ask where you were from lol. A player named Ran moved over there. He was a part of the urc before it disbanded. I'm surprised I don't hear more from there.

 

[ぱみゅ]

2L, lovin' you avi /blantantlyignoringtopicbecauselol5bestthreadsalt

 

[Haze~]

Who is the worst Zelda in the world?

 

[Alacion]

I a m. <3

 

[Two-Ell]

2L, lovin' you avi /blantantlyignoringtopicbecauselol5bestthreadsalt

Oh why thank you. The blood splatter felt like it would be pretty natural for Val's symbol lol.

I can never not stop to look at your avi whenever I pass a post of yours lol.

 

[Alacion]

Advil and Rockstar. Never again >_>

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Oh god!! That's an awful idea lol.

 

[DeLux]

Fuujin recently beat me going all Zelda in a Bo5 $50 mm last month

Best Zelda imo

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Oh wow, the more you know. Congrats man. Was anything recorded?

 

[LordXav1er]

If the list is going off solely past 6 months accomplishments like Krystedez says.

The list should look something like
1. Riot/Fuujin/ven
2. Fuujin/Riot/ven
3. ven/Fuujin/Riot
4. ScaryLB59
5. Mocha

-ED hasn't took any names in the longest time but still places well for a Sheilda in FL.
-Linkz hasn't been going to tourneys in awhile maybe like 1 or 2 in the last 6 months placing 1st because region is easy
-Mocha should be on as she has a tough region and placed fairly well and was active in the past 6 months, not so much now. 5th spot is mainly based on activity atm. She only one I could think of that best fits it.

 

[Fuujin]

Fuujin recently beat me going all Zelda in a Bo5 $50 mm last month

Best Zelda imo

lol fuujin doesnt have that kind of munny to gamble away.

even if it did happen, it wouldnt matter because were in the midwest
and thats totally a bad region.

 

[Mocha]

AlanHaTe and I did some wifi friendlies and he had an awesome platform cancel to down air sweet spot spike on me. Our matches were pretty close despite a few SDs. Good stuff, I encourage Alan and all of you to keep beasting with your Zeldas (:

 

[Alacion]

Nice! I'm gonna shake off the rust on my Zelda in the coming week

 

[Fluttershy]

not much activity here...

 

[ぱみゅ]

It's actually been a bit more active than in other seasons lol

 

[#HBC | Scary]

I think we're reaching that non-activity threshold. It's pretty bad. On that, I'm almost done with finals. Hopefully that means more tourneys and such.

How's everyone else doing?

 

[Two-Ell]

Ed, when are ya comin' down? D:

Also done with finals after tomorrow myself.

 

[Fuujin]

For quintuple post.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Your so mean!!! Lol.

@2link: dunno man. I'm gonna look for a job and if I find one I may stay up here.

 

[ToferTheHuman]

I am reporting too.

 

[KayLo!]

Vintage, where did you find your avatar? I like that art style.