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[Cenizas]

Has anyone seen this pic before?
Look what Link is holding LOL~~~

Thoughts about this:
-DAMN, FemRobin is lookin feisty.
-Pika is in her Cute Cosplay, but Jiggs ain't got a bow? Blasphemy.
-FemLucina and Mopcina are on the wrong sides, and wtf is she holding?
-Kirby is high on chocolate.
-Where's Luigi?
-Samus is way sexier with her suit on.

 

[BJN39]

Has anyone seen this pic before?
Look what Link is holding LOL~~~

HAHAHA, there are so many odd and funny things the girls are holding! xD Chocolate Luma?! Da best one might be Lucina with the Choco Robin's, and female Robin behind her.

 

[Berserker.]

Zelda, Peach, and ZSS look amazing :3

Also clarifying for the 999th time, my mains might be confusing but I still main Shulk. Duh. Just in case people might think I switched to Rosaluma for whatever reason

I'm also on an avatar hunt. Looking for an anime-Elsa art of the sorts

 

[Deleted member]

Zelda, Peach, and ZSS look amazing :3

Also clarifying for the 999th time, my mains might be confusing but I still main Shulk. Duh. Just in case people might think I switched to Rosaluma for whatever reason

I'm also on an avatar hunt. Looking for an anime-Elsa art of the sorts

You should ask @Twili about the Elsa art

But I've got some here for you!

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[Lavani]

I'm wondering why [anyone] thinks MK is bad.

Poor damage per hit (offset by amazing combo potential and good kill power), bizarre amounts of lag on the end of certain moves/landing with any aerial, short range for a sword character (should be thought of as more like C.Falcon than a sword character anyway).

Those are the main complaints about him I hear, anyway.

I have him at #17 on my list now, for what it's worth.

 

[Berserker.]

You should ask @Twili about the Elsa art

But I've got some here for you!

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Thanks BUT I watched an LP of Xenoblade (Cry's playthrough) and decided to switch to Shulk for obvious reasons. Saving all this fan art by the way

Poor damage per hit (offset by amazing combo potential and good kill power), bizarre amounts of lag on the end of certain moves/landing with any aerial, short range for a sword character (should be thought of as more like C.Falcon than a sword character anyway).

Those are the main complaints about him I hear, anyway.

I have him at #17 on my list now, for what it's worth.

Idc about ur list, PUFF LOVER jk

I think it's really just his combo potential and KO power that make me think highly of him. What holds him back though is his lack of good pokes (short range plus poor dps = bleck) and his lag. His start up is great buuut... anyway, I think he's pretty good.

 

[Lavani]

Idc about ur list, PUFF LOVER

u wana fite m8

1v1 me irl

I think it's really just his combo potential and KO power that makes me think highly of him. What holds him back though is his lack of good pokes (short range plus poor dps = bleck) and his lag. His start up is great buuut... anyway, I think he's pretty good.

It's more about knowing what moves are safe to use I think. Fsmash has nothing for end lag and is safe on shield and even hard to punish on whiff for most of the cast; dtilt is like a 19f commitment total and has a good trip rate; ftilt is basically your actual jab combo except you can pivot it and the third slash has solid range; dash attack has very low end lag and doesn't slow down when hitting shields, making it surprisingly safe (not to mention it and grabs are your main combo starters anyway).

Range became less of a deal when I started learning to abuse his multiple jumps for mindgames; stuff like dair>midair jump repeatedly then surprise fastfall into grab or nado.

Also the range on Dimensional Cape is ungodly as is the kill power, never forget about it.

 

[Deleted member]

u wana fite m8

1v1 me irl

OOOOOOH DAMNNNNN

 

[Berserker.]

u wana fite m8

1v1 me irl

Good. I can throw peanuts and banana peels at you irl

It's more about knowing what moves are safe to use I think. Fsmash has nothing for end lag and is safe on shield and even hard to punish on whiff for most of the cast; dtilt is like a 19f commitment total and has a good trip rate; ftilt is basically your actual jab combo except you can pivot it and the third slash has solid range; dash attack has very low end lag and doesn't slow down when hitting shields, making it surprisingly safe (not to mention it and grabs are your main combo starters anyway).

Range became less of a deal when I started learning to abuse his multiple jumps for mindgames; stuff like dair>midair jump repeatedly then surprise fastfall into grab or nado.

Also the range on Dimensional Cape is ungodly as is the kill power, never forget about it.

I think one mistake I did with Meta Knight was that I used jab for some reason... Well, back to Meta Knight, I guess. Thanks for all the fun facts again

 

[Lavani]

I think one mistake I did with Meta Knight was that I used jab

That is definitely a mistake.

 

[Berserker.]

I wanna try out customs Diddy so I can laugh at myself when I find something stupid

Going on the Mario/MK grind

 

[SBphiloz4]

@ Macchiato , I probably won't be available to play the whole day, sorry. :/

I'm still in denial of using customs just because Zelda gains nothing out of it ggs.

 

[Macchiato]

@ Macchiato , I probably won't be available to play the whole day, sorry. :/

I'm still in denial of using customs just because Zelda gains nothing out of it ggs.

well actually she does benefit, she gets phantom strike and better din's.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm currently beating the crap out of a Rosalina on FG as Peach right now. It feels good to show others who the top female is in Smash

 

[Berserker.]

well actually she does benefit, she gets phantom strike and better din's.

All din's fire customs are mostly garbage. Phantom customs are probably better than default phantom but that probably isn't saying much. The MAIN problem with customs on for Zelda mains is that Zelda becomes the worst in the game. Even worse than Swordfighter.

I'm currently beating the crap out of a Rosalina on FG as Peach right now. It feels good to show others who the top female is in Smash

Peach is pretty good against Rosalina imo. Like, it's probably even from how it looks

 

[Macchiato]

Imo meta knights the worst with customs on or off

 

[Berserker.]

Imo meta knights the worst with customs on or off

If you're joking, it ain't funny

 

[Macchiato]

If you're joking, it ain't funny

I'm not joking, maybe Dedede is worst without but they're pretty bad.

 

[Deleted member]

All din's fire customs are mostly garbage. Phantom customs are probably better than default phantom but that probably isn't saying much. The MAIN problem with customs on for Zelda mains is that Zelda becomes the worst in the game. Even worse than Swordfighter.

Peach is pretty good against Rosalina imo. Like, it's probably even from how it looks

I just switched to Zelda to show our dominance over Rosalina

 

[Berserker.]

I'm not joking, maybe Dedede is worst without but they're pretty bad.

The existence of characters like Dedede, Zelda, Mii Gunner, Mii Brawler (1111), Bowser Jr, Palutena, Mr. Game and Watch, Wii Fit Trainer, and Mopcina stop him from being the worst since they're worse than MK. I could probably name MORE characters that he's better than but I'm too lazy. He's definitely at the upper half of the cast

 

[Macchiato]

The existence of characters like Dedede, Zelda, Mii Gunner, Mii Brawler (1111), Bowser Jr, Palutena, Mr. Game and Watch, Wii Fit Trainer, and Mopcina stop him from being the worst since they're worse than MK. I could probably name MORE characters that he's better than but I'm too lazy. He's definitely at the upper half of the cast

I think he's worst than every here except swordfighter

 

[Berserker.]

I think he's worst than every here except swordfighter

Okay, you lost me

Can you explain why he's the worst?

 

[Lorde]

Okay, you lost me

Every character he has mained is "mid tier at least" so that only leaves like 2 characters for MK to be higher than obvs

 

[Macchiato]

Every character he has mained is "mid tier at least" so that only leaves like 2 characters for MK to be higher than obvs

I've mained MK and I've always thought that he was bottom, your point?

 

[Berserker.]

I've mained MK and I've always thought that he was bottom, your point?

You've mained everyone in the game so everyone should be at mid-tier

 

[Lorde]

I've mained MK and I've always thought that he was bottom, your point?

It was a joke? There's no need to get defensive, sis. It's all in good fun.

When did you main MK, though? I must've missed that one.

 

[Macchiato]

It was a joke? There's no need to get defensive, sis. It's all in good fun.

When did you main MK, though? I must've missed that one.

Idk it's hard to keep count lol

 

[Berserker.]

Seriously though, I'd like an explanation on why MK is the worst in your opinion

 

[Macchiato]

Seriously though, I'd like an explanation on why MK is the worst in your opinion

Few reliable kill moves that are safe, opponents fall out of up b sometimes.
Little range
Low damage output
Light weight
Easily comboed
Laggy moves
He just has too many weaknesses over strengths

 

[Berserker.]

Well, I'd counter all those points but it's 3 am right now in my time zone so whatever. Too lazy

Plus, I see @ warionumbah2 over here so he's probably going to handle it. Or everyone else will handle it

 

[Locke 06]

Sisters. I have sinned.

I've started to play Mopcina seriously again and she's challenging Shulk for my 3rd character.

I think Marcina might be misunderstood. I actually think they're good... (Not amazing, but definitely not bad)

Edit: Berserker without a waifu avatar? What has the world come to?!

 

[Lavani]

i think diddys the worst character becuz monkies ar dummer than humans

imo hes mid

 

[Locuan]

@ Locke 06 , you have not sinned. You have risen to the challenge.

 

[warionumbah2]

I think he's worst than every here except swordfighter

Coming from a Zelda main who jumps on different characters every week, who thinks Dr Mario goes even with Rosalina, who thinks Lucina goes 60:40 against Pac-Man, who thinks every character you used in the past is mid tier.

You haven't gave reasons as to why he's 2nd worst in the game.And saying you 'used' to main someone isn't good because you have to put time and effort to really see if someone is good or not especially MK who requires precision and reaction time, you have a 'main' for less than a week.

Got members on the board who solo main MK and frequently place high in tournaments and one of them managed to take a game off Boss

Few reliable kill moves that are safe, opponents fall out of up b sometimes.
Little range
Low damage output
Light weight
Easily comboed
Laggy moves
He just has too many weaknesses over strengths

First one is simply you not being good at using SL, if you hit say for example Mario after the first hit you PULL BACK so the second hit connects. This proves you don't try to learn.

Mario has low range but his mobility allows him to get in and give chase. MK being 9th in dash speed and has better air mobility than Lucina and 6 jumps should spell it out easily.

Mach tornado does 23% fresh, F-Smash does a lot of damage as well as SL. He can rack up damage just as good as Sheik and kill better.

Lightweight. Its legit can't say nothing about this.

Well stop using laggy moves for starters, don't use dair into ground, don't fair unless its after DA and down throw, don't nair on stage or bair. And never use jab....

Dtilt,F-Smash,Ftilt,D-Smash,U-Smash don't have that much end lag if anything some have no end lag at all. Marth and Lucina have atrocious lag on all their normals besides Dtilt and yet MK is worse.kmt

Edit: If you can't follow up out of DA or down throw. Drop him. If you can't play MK without using laggy moves.Drop him. If you lose frequently to Little Mac.Drop him. If you can't string uairs Mega drop him. If you can't do basic kill setups. Throw him in the bin.

 

[Berserker.]

We we're born in a world of Diddys
Against the Kongs
We choose to fight
HOO HAH

Edit: Berserker without a waifu avatar? What has the world come to?!

Awesome let's plays. That's what it came to

 

[Deleted member]

So, I'm playing against a Villager on FG, and on the first stock, I sweetspot LK'd stage spiked him on Battlefield, then on the second stock, I killed him with Phantom. I'M SO PROUD and I saved the match too xD

 

[Locuan]

So, I'm playing against a Villager on FG, and on the first stock, I sweetspot LK'd stage spiked him on Battlefield, then on the second stock, I killed him with Phantom. I'M SO PROUD and I saved the match too xD

Does the neutral B have the same effect as Mario's cape on the Lloid? By that I mean if they try to go back to the stage with it and you reflect, they go to the opposing side and explode? I did it with Mario, its hilarious, the explosion took the stock from the Villager user.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Does the neutral B have the same effect as Mario's cape on the Lloid? By that I mean if they try to go back to the stage with it and you reflect, they go to the opposing side and explode? I did it with Mario, its hilarious, the explosion took the stock from the Villager user.

*I hope Dan doesn't mind me answering this instead but I do it a lot against my friend who mains Villager so*
It does, but you have to be precise. If you accidentally hit Villager and not just the Lloid he won't be on the rocket anymore and can freely recover. Basically, try hitting with the tip of Nayru's to get only the Lloid

 

[Lorde]

So I just played Brawl for the first time since the release of Smash 4 Lightning kicks are good again, god tier usmash, uair kills super early, fsmash actually connects...Why must you take it all away, Sakutena?

I also miss Lucas, Ivysaur, and Brawl Sheik so much.
also lol @ brawl meta knight

 

[Macchiato]

I mained lucas


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