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Lorde

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Don't listen to these lies
I honestly cannot see Zelda or Wii Fit higher than more than 5 or 6 characters. GW is debatable but I'd say he'll stay in bottom or move up to low.

Jigglypuff is good, though. Her bair is just :love:
 

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Don't worry. Jigglypuff will probably be mid.
I want to believe, but I'm kind of skeptical. Jiggs hits hard in this game, but I feel like a lot of characters have the range to just keep her out forever. The change to star KOs where they can randomly do the normal KO animation is annoying after Rest, means you can be punished for getting a KO if the RNG feels like it. Also so many moves that can break shields in this game compared to other Smash games, and she still dies for it.

Still hoping to see some more Jiggs representation at some point though. Reflex plays a good Jiggs, and amazing combos like dair>Rest are keeping my optimism alive.
 

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The only one of those that is bottom tier is Zelda are you kidding me. stop. pls.
 

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Sorry gorl but you need to honestly reevaluate your life if you think Zelda and Wii Fit are higher than more than 8-10 characters.

They're bad. There's no way around it. They just aren't very good characters. That doesn't mean they aren't viable, though.

I want to believe, but I'm kind of skeptical. Jiggs hits hard in this game, but I feel like a lot of characters have the range to just keep her out forever. The change to star KOs where they can randomly do the normal KO animation is annoying after Rest, means you can be punished for getting a KO if the RNG feels like it. Also so many moves that can break shields in this game compared to other Smash games, and she still dies for it.

Still hoping to see some more Jiggs representation at some point though. Reflex plays a good Jiggs, and amazing combos like dair>Rest are keeping my optimism alive.
I don't think Jigglypuff will be lower than low tier. There's a good 8-15ish characters I'd say she's better than.
 
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I know right? Whenever I watch a stream or such and I see someone pick Zelda I always get false hope they actually are gonna use her in battle, but they always have to ruin my dreams with :GCD::GCB:. :(

It's been time she became her own character, considering people only used her for Sheik.
 

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Sorry gorl but you need to honestly reevaluate your life if you think Zelda and Wii Fit are higher than more than 8-10 characters.

They're bad. There's no way around it. They just aren't very good characters. That doesn't mean they aren't viable, though.
SIs they are good. All this pessimism makes me want to quit Zelda stahp
 

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Was this a stone for me or did I just catch it? Cause I'll be honest and say I know jack**** about G&W but he doesn't seem that bad :'D
No, it wasn't related to anything in this thread haha

just venting over people trying to tell me I'm wrong about game mechanics that only take a few seconds in training to verify

Sorry gorl but you need to honestly reevaluate your life if you think Zelda and Wii Fit are higher than more than 8-10 characters.

They're bad. There's no way around it. They just aren't very good characters. That doesn't mean they aren't viable, though.
I have WFT above 12 characters on my list. :happysheep:
 

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I know right? Whenever I watch a stream or such and I see someone pick Zelda I always get false hope they actually are gonna use her in battle, but they always have to ruin my dreams with :GCD::GCB:. :(

It's been time she became her own character, considering people only used her for Sheik.
I love when someone like Lake actually plays Zelda in Melee and people who don't know him expect Sheik but then they get bodied by Zelda lmao

I'm glad Zelda is a seperate char now too, I just wish she had a better down b like Light Arrows
 

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I have WFT above 12 characters on my list. :happysheep:
Out of curiosity, who are they? I can only think of :4drmario::4lucina::4kirby::4gaw::4zelda::4palutena:(default Palu):4charizard::4samus:
even GW and Palu might be a bit of a stretch

SIs they are good. All this pessimism makes me want to quit Zelda stahp
i hope you know that i do like you. I don't mean to come off as rude or arrogant.

Anyway, I cannot understand why other people's opinions would make you want to drop a character. Shouldn't it make you want to work harder to prove me (and others) wrong? idk
 
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I love when someone like Lake actually plays Zelda in Melee and people who don't know him expect Sheik but then they get bodied by Zelda lmao

I'm glad Zelda is a seperate char now too, I just wish she had a better down b like Light Arrows
Right? lmao.

Her down special has a few pros though, like being one of the only things that is able to stop Ike's recovery, as far as I know. (Don't quote me on that..)
Her down special has a few pros though, like being one of the only things that is able to stop Ike's recovery.
:glare:
 

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Out of curiosity, who are they? I can only think of :4drmario::4lucina::4kirby::4gaw::4zelda::4palutena:(default Palu):4charizard::4samus:
even GW and Palu might be a bit of a stretch


i hope you know that i do like you. I don't mean to come off as rude or arrogant.

Anyway, I cannot understand why other people's opinions would make you want to drop a character. Shouldn't it make you want to work harder to prove me (and others) wrong? idk
I start to lose hop in that character. That she'll never get better while everyone will and then I will never succeed and cry.
 

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I think tiers in this game are even less decisive than others, since a lot of different characters seem good at countering others. The way Villager and Luigi can handle **** from Diddy, or the way Zelda can actually get an edge against Rosalina, or Megaman's supercamping walling Sonic out... I think they won't be high or mid due to general tournament viability (cept Megaman), but honestly it's cool that less used characters could have something valuable in the overall meta.
 

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wow idk if i've ever seen marth in the bottom 11 before. and i forgot about mii swordsman and ganondorf lol.
i'd actually agree with wii fit being better than most of those. Little Mac, Marth, and Falco are kind of undecided for me, hence why I omitted them.
So why do people think Falco is so bad? imo he's not bottom 10. he's probably low, though.

edit: my bottom 15 is probably like :4charizard::4drmario::4miisword::4samus::4zelda::4wiifit::4dedede::4ganondorf::4lucina::4kirby::4littlemac::4palutena::4pacman::4bowserjr:(:4falco:/:4duckhunt:/:4dk:) no order tho
at about 12-13 i kinda had no idea who else to add.
 
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I agree about Jr.

He's an annoying little prick. I also don't think Little Mac really is THAT ****ed over either, nor is DK.

But then again I know jack**** about them, soooo~~~
 

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I was using Elsa avatars from around December 2013 until... huh. Well let's just say I was Frozen-obsessed for a good eight months. I was hit by the (as I like to call it) Frozen virus hard. Just ask my friends, they know.

@kaazers @ TriforceOfWisdom TriforceOfWisdom @XDanDan612 @Rickster
Ogod. I remember it all so clearly. It was a hard time for the rest of us...

Edit: Wow, why did it post just the quote before.
 
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Lorde

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Seeing Charizard, Pacman, or Duck Hunt in the bottom 15 on a list is lol
i apologize for offending you, based spirst. i will make up for it with boatloads of kiwis shipped to your house. enjoy ur tropical fruit

but i really don't see any of the three as great characters. DH and Pacman proabably aren't bottom 15 but i wouldn't say they're much higher.
 
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