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[frest123]

I wonder if anyone else realised how much easier the Dedede MU has become thanks to our Nair buff. Now we can send the Gordo back with our least committal aerial as opposed to having to shield it or Nayrus it back.

Regirock has too much bulk for Sturdy to be useful and doesn't have any 4x weakness like Golem or Aggron for attacks to K.O. it in one hit. It's really only useful for the rare 30% accurate OHKO moves.

Sand Veil is honestly more useless than Solar Power on Heliolisk imo. With Solar Power you can at least use the Special Attack boost to sweep or wallbreak. The evasion boost you get from Sand Veil is just gimmicky and though I guess it can deal with Skarmory and bulky Waters for Excadrill on Sand teams I guess. Helio's definitely best in Rain though.

I find Dry Skin the most useful since it gives an extra immunity (in addition to the Ghost Immunity) and makes Heliolisk even more effective against Bulky Water types. It can also be useful when used together with Volt Switch because you can switch in and out, granting you momentum.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Boredom results in some crazy things.

Bonus points if anyone knows what this is intended to do.

I only know it has something to do with your lab rats, err, I mean Bobombs.

 

[Rizen]

Boredom results in some crazy things.

Bonus points if anyone knows what this is intended to do.

It's obviously a recipe for crepes.

 

[Trieste SP]

I've been compiling a list of moves for Zelda in SSF2.

Here's what I got so far.

Spoiler

Confirms into Grab and Utilt:
Landing Nair = Almost any percentage as long as it's only one or two hits.
Sourspot Fair on Landing = Up to about 40% it keeps him close for a grab. Any higher is when you'll really have to start running in for a Dash-Grab/Utilt.
Sourspot Bair on Landing = 10%. Because of the move having a low angle knocking directly back, you should always try to space yourself Dash-Grab/Utilt.
Sourspot Dair on Landing = Works well pass 100%. This is one of the best ones but harder to land. It keeps your opponent a single position bouncing them up for a follow-up.

Ground starting:

from 0%
Dash-Attack > Grab-Dthrow...
(if DI-Up) > Utilt > Utilt > Fair
(if DI-Away) > Dash-Attack > SH Fair/Uair. - Or something more complicated like Dash-Attack > SH Sour-Dair > Dtilt > Regrab

On-landing:

Nair > Utilt > Uair.
Nair > Dsmash | when at the ledge, good to get them off-stage for gimp-setups.
Nair > Usmash > Uair

Fair, Dash-Attack, Utilt, Uair
Fair > Ftilt > (turnaround) Utilt > Uair

Advanced ones would be like:

Grab-Dthrow > SH Sour-Dair > Reverse Dtilt > Dash-Turnaround Grab-Dthrow > Utilt > SH Uair > FJ Uair. Which is like a 60-70%

A good one on Fox at 20-30%
Uthrow > Dash-Utilt > Full-Jump Sour Fair > Falling Sour Fair > (land) Dash-Attack > Turnaround Short-Hop Lightning-Bair = 68% instinct-kill.

Just for the heck of it, Here's Zelda doing a ken combo.

 

[EODM07]

Morning girls. How's everyone doing?

Still a bit unwell, got myself some medicine so it can at least help with my cold. So far, I got a headache, my joints are hurting and my nose is stuffy and runny. :V

Spoiler: Yuri pic of the day~

 

[Rizen]

Insomnia sucks, I watched the brave little toaster.
http://putlocker.is/watch-the-brave-little-toaster-online-free-putlocker.html
Never realized how much toy story movies ripped it off. It's a very sweet and slow but well paced 80s movie. It also has a surprisingly dark and nihilistic undertone.

 

[Lil Puddin]

Why does zelda's dtilt look so awkward

She's trying to kick while kneeling on the ground while having on a full length skirt. Gorlfrind juss dunno wat do, sis.

Morning girls. How's everyone doing?

Still a bit unwell, got myself some medicine so it can at least help with my cold. So far, I got a headache, my joints are hurting and my nose is stuffy and runny. :V

Spoiler: Yuri pic of the day~

Hope you feel better, sis. Maybe being a weeb and Zeldorp social-goer (same thing huuuehuuue) for extended periods of time has literally made you sick?

 

[evmaxy54]

Gurls is D-Tilt -> LK ever a true combo? I've been landing it a few times but I don't know if it's opponent messing up or if it's true.

Character dependent onstage at about 70% (the ones I've tested before that worked were Fox, Marth, Shulk), & although I haven't tested it on every character, Dtilt on ledge-grabbing opponents to Fair might work on every character from +72%.

All without Rage btw

 

[Furret]

hi everyone !
can someone know what is the earlier kill pourcentage you can do from farore's wind (on the ground) ? because i was doing a zelda mirror's match and was surprised to kill him at 41% with that move.

1. I'd recommend going to the zelda Q&A thread with questions
2. zelda's up b is super dependent on your opponents weight and your rage, high rage can lower the kill percent by like 30% and low weights can die like 15% sooner compared to heavies

Boredom results in some crazy things.

Bonus points if anyone knows what this is intended to do.

hard to tell, because i forgot what order values appear in. oops

Morning girls. How's everyone doing?

job interview day, feels good

 

[EODM07]

job interview day, feels good

Is the job for getting sponsered at competitive GGXrd Tournaments?

 

[Furret]

Is the job for getting sponsered at competitive GGXrd Tournaments?

ha, no, but it does pay the bills
why would the US even bother to sponsor its crappy players

 

[Baskerville]

Been a while since I've been here.
Sup Zeldas?

 

[Berserker.]

Been a while since I've been here.
Sup Zeldas?

hi arctic wolf :^)

what's up

 

[EODM07]

Been a while since I've been here.
Sup Zeldas?

Not much has been happening. Other than I've finished my Uni stuff for a week, Furret is having a job interview. And briefly talked about VGC 2016 yesterday. :V

And that I've fallen sick AGAIN.

 

[Baskerville]

hi arctic wolf :^)

what's up

Hey Berserker. :D
Nothing much happening really, just dropping in to say hi.

Not much has been happening. Other than I've finished my Uni stuff for a week, Furret is having a job interview. And briefly talked about VGC 2016 yesterday. :V

And that I've fallen sick AGAIN.

Hope you get better.

 

[Furret]

And that I've fallen sick AGAIN.

you remind me of my sister, she gets fevers often as well.
imagine having a big bro furret, why I bet you feel better already

 

[EODM07]

you remind me of my sister, she gets fevers often as well.
imagine having a big bro furret, why I bet you feel better already
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Funny thing is I only get sick about once a year or never. I ended up sick around February from a cold this year, and now I got another cold from my Dad this time. :V

 

[Trieste SP]

Been a while since I've been here.
Sup Zeldas?

It has. Good to know you're doing alright.

I have just finished making this thread. It took a bit longer than I'd liked but I think it turned out well.

 

[Lavani]

I only know it has something to do with your lab rats, err, I mean Bobombs.

Unfortunately I had to switch to Smart Bombs, because Bob-ombs apparently have a rather short limit on how long after exploding they can put hitboxes out for.

Anyway, I replaced the explosion with prepatch Meta Knight ladder.

 

[EODM07]

Unfortunately I had to switch to Smart Bombs, because Bob-ombs apparently have a rather short limit on how long after exploding they can put hitboxes out for.

Anyway, I replaced the explosion with prepatch Meta Knight ladder.

Smart Bomb confirmed SS Tier.

 

[McKnightlíght]

Unfortunately I had to switch to Smart Bombs, because Bob-ombs apparently have a rather short limit on how long after exploding they can put hitboxes out for.

Anyway, I replaced the explosion with prepatch Meta Knight ladder.

 

[Lil Puddin]

Unfortunately I had to switch to Smart Bombs, because Bob-ombs apparently have a rather short limit on how long after exploding they can put hitboxes out for.

Anyway, I replaced the explosion with prepatch Meta Knight ladder.

Make Zeldoo's Nair do the same thing to make her F tier so she can sassily wave buhbye to J tier.

Even if BR's tier list is a huger joke than Zelda herself you should take this post seriously. jajaja

 

[EODM07]

I dunno why. But the other day, I decided to look at a RunawayGuys stream highlight video of ProtonJon, NintendoCapriSun and ChuggaaConroy playing Mario Party 6, and all of the innuendos Chuggaa was making was insane. And he didn't even make them on purpose, he's that innocently minded. :V

And funny thing was that that stream reached 5k viewers on Twitch as well. Well done ProtonJon.

I'd list what some of the innuendos he made, but I don't think I should. :3

 

[Alacion]

Omg people are running Level 13 Smeargles in VGC so they underspeed Ferrothorn under Trick Room but also maximizes Double Edge recoil damage. That optimization though.

 

[Macchiato]

Omg people are running Level 13 Smeargles in VGC so they underspeed Ferrothorn under Trick Room but also maximizes Double Edge recoil damage. That optimization though.

you need to try sunteam with cherrim. cherrim may suck in singles but i think cherrim has some pretty good niches in doubles.

 

[Y2Kay]

TBH I forget Cherrim is a pokemon

 

[Macchiato]

TBH I forget Cherrim is a pokemon

well i mean you could only get cherrim for honey trees from gen 4 and you couldn't in any other. it's not like cherrims still even in the anime or anywhere to be seen.

 

[Burgundy]

#CherrimforPokkenDLC

 

[Y2Kay]

Forgettable Pokemon

• Heatmor
• Cherrim
• Grumpig
• Lumineon
• Girafirig
• Maractus
• Darmanitan-zen
• Lunatone
• Solrock
• Vespiqueen
• Beheeyem
• Klinklang

 

[Lil Puddin]

well i mean you could only get cherrim for honey trees from gen 4 and you couldn't in any other. it's not like cherrims still even in the anime or anywhere to be seen.

I really think Cherrim is super cute but only in its opened flower form. So using it in game was too much trouble. :C

 

[Lorde]

lmao it's Vespiquen not Vespiqueen

 

[Koiba]

Vespiqueen

Vespiquen was a pretty cool pokemon tho :C

Luminion is pretty, but forgettable

I really think Cherrim is super cute but only in its opened flower form.

I know~

The other one is too gloomy for me

 

[ぱみゅ]

Forgettable Pokemon

• Heatmor
• Cherrim
• Grumpig
• Lumineon
• Girafirig
• Maractus
• Darmanitan-zen
• Lunatone
• Solrock
• Vespiqueen
• Beheeyem
• Klinklang

Girafarig (it's a palindrome)
Vespiquen
and
Dunsparce
Grumpig
Glameow
Skuntank
(not this one tho)

 

[Y2Kay]

she's so forgettable I spelled it wrong

I still kinda like her, she's just not that good, considering how hard it is to get her.

I can't find female combee for the life of me

 

[Alacion]

I tried Cherrim in the past but I can see potential minimal usage since sun is a thing in VGC 2016. Problem is half the time, it's also raining and with stuff like Trick Room and how awful Cherrim is I doubt it is very viable. Grass type is also quite weak atm.

 

[marekage]

thanks for your answers Rickster and Furret i will check the right thread (yeah i was in rage-and my opponent died at 54% not 41% so it s not that surprising ).

 

[Jaguar360]

I built and played with a couple VGC teams today btw. I'm enjoying format a lot so far, but I still need to get used to some Doubles things. Haven't built with anything particularly creative or interesting yet since I'm still learning about how the metagame is, but I'm pretty fond of Giratina Origin and Choice Scarf Zekrom atm. Greninja seems decent, but the 4 moveslot syndrome is real with it. I'm thinking that Grass Knot/Ice Beam/Hydro Pump/Protect is its best set in VGC 2016 since it needs Grass Knot for hitting the Primals, but I'm also intrigued at the prospect of running physical Greninja with Gunk Shot/Low Kick/Rock Slide/Protect to pressure Xerneas and Ferrothorn more.

 

[Rizen]

80% of all pokemon are forgettable lol.

 

[Lil Puddin]

80% of all pokemon are forgettable lol.

Kinda true. Only one's favorites and mascots are memorable for most players.

 

[ぱみゅ]

I tried Cherrim in the past but I can see potential minimal usage since sun is a thing in VGC 2016. Problem is half the time, it's also raining and with stuff like Trick Room and how awful Cherrim is I doubt it is very viable. Grass type is also quite weak atm.