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[kenniky]

http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Villager

short hop air time 39 frames

nair autocancels 27
fair autocancels 30
bair autocancels 25
uair autocancels 39
dair autocancels 39

do all of villager's aerials autocancel???

 

[FullMoon]

CatRaccoonBL milla is super lame, so slooooooooooow
the other stupid looking furries on the other hand

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what are the inputs?

Jump backwards, turn around, use a move.

As far as I know Greninja has the longest slide.

 

[Macchiato]

So I got over my Robin phase but now I have a Palutena thing.

Why is she considered so low tier? If you avoid tilts like the plague her throw and aerial game feel great. And I can even wall people out with SH Fairs. It feels reaaaally nice from a gameplay perspective.

How to kill

How to punish oos

How to not get comboed

 

[Nammy12]

Jump backwards, turn around, use a move.

As far as I know Greninja has the longest slide.

Actually, Speed Shulk has the longest slide.

 

[FullMoon]

Actually, Speed Shulk has the longest slide.

Fine, Greninja has the longest slide out of the base characters

 

[Lorde]

http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Villager

short hop air time 39 frames

nair autocancels 27
fair autocancels 30
bair autocancels 25
uair autocancels 39
dair autocancels 39

do all of villager's aerials autocancel???

Every aerial in the game autocancels

But yeah, all of Villager's aerials short hop autocancel. Alph is the only other character I can think of off the top of my head that has all of their aerials SHAC.

 

[Macchiato]

Every aerial in the game autocancels

But yeah, all of Villager's aerials short hop autocancel. Alph is the only other character I can think of off the top of my head that has all of their aerials SHAC.

Peach and (D)Pit's aerials all SHAC too

 

[Locke 06]

Every aerial in the game autocancels

But yeah, all of Villager's aerials short hop autocancel. Alph is the only other character I can think of off the top of my head that has all of their aerials SHAC.

DK FAir doesn't autocancel.

What a satisfying move.

 

[Furret]

What did you say about best character?

On a serious note, funnily enough, she is pretty much the fastest character in the game if one becomes super awesome amazing at using her and takes the best advantage of her knockback from the Super Shield Burst ever. Also helps that she absolutely wrecks bosses in like 3 hits and her reflector makes some bosses even laughable.

cept, she dies in two hits and you can easily be caught charging that, the other kids are just touch and go. also kinda hard to compare a directional shield to full invincibility that charges even when you are running

 

[FullMoon]

God I don't know what happened but I'm feeling sick since Saturday, I'm feeling better today but having to spend the weekend sick sucks.

 

[Lorde]

DK FAir doesn't autocancel.

What a satisfying move.

DK's fair autocancels from frame 78 onwards.

Peach and (D)Pit's aerials all SHAC too

I've tried a billion times but I've never been able to get Peach's uair to autocancel in a shorthop. It's especially strange since her fair and uair have the same autocancel window.

And I knew I was forgetting someone, but I couldn't remember who it was. I don't like the Pits so I don't play them lol.

 

[Furret]

I've tried a billion times but I've never been able to get Peach's uair to autocancel in a shorthop. It's especially strange since her fair and uair have the same autocancel window.

makes sense, cause you can't buffer Uairs out of short hop

 

[Lorde]

makes sense, cause you can't buffer Uairs out of short hop

That's a thing? I guess that explains why I can't get it to work.
tysm ily <3

 

[Locke 06]

DK's fair autocancels from frame 78 onwards.

Nah, the animation ends on frame 78. #youfellintomytrapsecretkpop

makes sense, cause you can't buffer Uairs out of short hop

You can with tilt stick! ^_^

 

[Furret]

Nah, the animation ends on frame 78. #youfellintomytrapsecretkpop

You can with tilt stick! ^_^

haven't tried it that way, probably cause I don't use short hop immediate Uair on either Zelda or Sonic

That's a thing? I guess that explains why I can't get it to work.
tysm ily <3

ya has to do with jump canceled up smash

 

[Suicidal_Donuts]

Any gorl want to play for a bit? I was supposed to play with @KarmaCastle, but he's taking his time and I have no clue when he'll get back to me, soooo.

 

[Macchiato]

DK's fair autocancels from frame 78 onwards.


I've tried a billion times but I've never been able to get Peach's uair to autocancel in a shorthop. It's especially strange since her fair and uair have the same autocancel window.

And I knew I was forgetting someone, but I couldn't remember who it was. I don't like the Pits so I don't play them lol.

I just did it, it's like one of those moves that needs to be frame perfect to autocancel.

 

[Gay Ginger]

SAT and ACT are terrible.

Neither of them measure intelligence or academic ability very well, nor are they reliable indicators for how well someone will do in higher education. But they're required by most universities because the industry is big $$.

It's the same for the GRE (basically the SAT for grad school) -- luckily the program I'm applying to doesn't require it. Hallelujah!

 

[Lorde]

Nah, the animation ends on frame 78. #youfellintomytrapsecretkpop

So the only way to avoid the landing lag is to land on/after the faf? Are there any other aerials that don't autocancel?

Neither of them measure intelligence or academic ability very well, nor are they reliable indicators for how well someone will do in higher education.

The SAT has actually been drastically revised and now demonstrates actual knowledge instead of being good at the specific SAT strategies that were necessary to use in its previous incarnation. It's not a perfect test, but it's better than it was, anyway.

because the industry is big $$

imo college reform is one of the largest issues i feel needs to be addressed in our country. it's ridiculous that some people are graduating college with $100K in debt, just because they went on to higher education. free schooling is one of the few things that socialism has done correctly.

 

[kenniky]

tbh I'm ok with the current tests because I do well on them

<3

 

[FullMoon]

Anybody wants to play for a bit? I'm kinda trying to see if I can implement slide pivots into actual matches.

 

[McKnightlíght]

Someone has to pay for the tuition. Just because you don't doesn't mean it is free.

 

[Furret]

So the only way to avoid the landing lag is to land on/after the faf? Are there any other aerials that don't autocancel?

usually dairs that act like dive kicks are given ridiculous auto cancel frames so they'll auto cancel when you use them straight out of hit stun (where they stall in the air), but hardly else where. Bowser's Dair Autocancels on like frame 70, young link is something like 60+, where shiek and Zss are frame 50+, and sonic's is frame 41

Someone has to pay for the tuition. Just because you don't doesn't mean it is free.

I'm still voting for Bernie Sanders

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

cept, she dies in two hits and you can easily be caught charging that, the other kids are just touch and go. also kinda hard to compare a directional shield to full invincibility that charges even when you are running

Ok, so time for an essay on why I like Milla.

So when playing as the other characters, I don't like getting too close to the enemies. Fighting them up close is almost certain to get me hit which I have to as the two characters don't have long range moves. I especially hate those alien solider guys. Those are the biggest pain ever.

When playing as Milla however, I don't have to worry about that thing. I can attack from a distance.

Here's how Milla works. She is a glass cannon. She does insane damage but has low health. However she has every tool she could need to avoid damage even without invincibility.

1. The shield. While it is confusing on what it can reflect or not, it is still an amazing tool for dealing with enemies with long range tools themselves. Also it makes bosses like Mega Serpatine a joke.
2. Long range. Super Shield Burst gives her range. It doesn't matter how much an enemy deals if they don't even have an attack that can reach her.
3. The best jump in the game. Yes, Cyclone is amazing, but the thing is, Milla can essentially go as high as she wants for a long period of time. First due to the insane amount of knockback you get by jumping while doing a diagonal down super shield burst, (which is super easy to time), and the flutter kick giving even more. You don't even need the springs for the first Beetle Ship thing fight. Even ignoring the insane height, just being able to stay in the air for a long time allows you the perfect ability to reposition yourself or get a last second dodge.
4. Momentum shift. Your momentum carrying you towards death or you need more speed or else death will catch up with you? Milla can do that with the super shield burst. Like I said, with proper burst usage, she becomes the fastest character in the game. It's insanity.
5. No special meter. You are right, Millia doesn't have any invulnerability. However, she can do all of what I said with just a three second charge up of a block. Which you can then use at any time. Lilac HAS to have a full bar. One improper use of Dragon burst or even Cyclone can spell trouble. Granted, she has more health to account for this, but thats the point of balance.
6. Milia is a powerhouse. It doesn't matter if the enemy can kill you in one or two hits as long as you can kill them first.
And finally
7. She can dig stuff up. May seem random, but this is important for boss fights. You see, in some of them you can actually dig up shields. Which means she is either completely immune to some attacks, or she just has an extended health bar. Bear in mind some bosses give you multiple shields with this method. The best example is Prince Dali's second fight where you can actually dig up an invincibility shield.

As for why I like her, it is because she can be played slower than the other characters and I don't have to deal with as many cheap shots from the enemies. I honestly felt like I died more playing as Lilac or Carol because there design makes me feel like I should be reckless. While they are still fun, I have the most fun playing with Milla.

Also, I have a zero death save file with Milla which I cleared on normal. (Not like I could prove the latter, but I can prove it was cleared with zero deaths).

 

[Furret]

Ok, so time for an essay on why I like Milla.

woah now, I'm just here to talk **** and rustle jimmies, I already have enough reading for my classes. I get it you like the character, I kinda understood that part when you made your profile pic milla

Real talk though Freedom planet is fun even if the character design is just krystal x3

 

[McKnightlíght]

I'm still voting for Bernie Sanders

voting is for scrubs

 

[Gay Ginger]

So the only way to avoid the landing lag is to land on/after the faf? Are there any other aerials that don't autocancel?


The SAT has actually been drastically revised and now demonstrates actual knowledge instead of being good at the specific SAT strategies that were necessary to use in its previous incarnation. It's not a perfect test, but it's better than it was, anyway.


imo college reform is one of the largest issues i feel needs to be addressed in our country. it's ridiculous that some people are graduating college with $100K in debt, just because they went on to higher education. free schooling is one of the few things that socialism has done correctly.

I didn't hear about that. Hopefully the new test is better. But I still don't like the idea at all.

Standardized testing exacerbates achievement gaps and screws over poor and minority students, who generally get a worse education (in poorly funded and supplied schools) and whose families often can't afford expensive test prep books, courses, or tutoring.

The SAT and ACT should be scrapped, in my opinion.

I agree, though, that college reform is needed. Education reform is needed at all levels. And we need to start by undoing the horrible system of funding schools through property taxes. There needs to be a general education fund that sends money to schools based on their community's needs. Richer areas shouldn't have better schools just because rich people feel that their children are entitled to a better education.

Someone has to pay for the tuition. Just because you don't doesn't mean it is free.

Well obviously the money is coming from somewhere.

It should be a shared societal responsibility, not an individual one.

 

[Chez G.]

Sheesh, I missed a lot in a day! Auto cancel windows, screwy education system, and a novel on why SuperRaccoon likes a character I've never about...anything I missed?

Other than that, I just came home and I got a note saying that a package came. Could be my Palutena amiibo I've been waiting for in the past four weeks? I'm hyped!!

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

woah now, I'm just here to talk **** and rustle jimmies, I already have enough reading for my classes. I get it you like the character, I kinda understood that part when you made your profile pic milla

I was mostly joking about the essay. Part.

Honestly, I'm just starved of Freedom planet talk. Not as many people actually played it and then talked about it as much as I expected. Makes it worse that most people only really play Lillac and maybe Carol. More so felt like talking about Milla then ranting at someone.

 

[Furret]

voting is for scrubs

this is why tuition is so high and why government wont refinance certain programs for the elderly
nobody who would care about it voted on it

ages 18-21 has one of the worst voter turn out rates, where as those in their 60s have the best
funny how that works

not voting is sadly for those who wish not to be represented, even if a two party system is gutter trash

Sheesh, I missed a lot in a day! Auto cancel windows, screwy education system, and a novel on why SuperRaccoon likes a character I've never about...anything I missed?

character from a game about fast with bad voice acting

should check it out if you like old school sonic

I was mostly joking about the essay. Part.

Honestly, I'm just starved of Freedom planet talk. Not as many people actually played it and then talked about it as much as I expected. Makes it worse that most people only really play Lillac and maybe Carol. More so felt like talking about Milla then ranting at someone.

sorry but milla is really wonky to me, I'd say I'd prefer Carol, but it just makes bosses more of a drag and they were already like that to begin with

 

[kenniky]

Why is it that out of the three New England people in this social I'm the only one that doesn't rant 24/7

 

[Nammy12]

We don't have the SAT here in Canada so I don't know what they're like. Are they like placement tests to get into secondary?

Also, I just jv3'd a fg falcon.

 

[Gay Ginger]

I don't know if people here know how badly adjunct professors/faculty get screwed at public & private universities, but if you don't, read this article.

Since I went to a public university, all staff's pay was public record. One of my French professors, who taught 3 of my required French classes, was adjunct faculty and made something like $28,000/year! I couldn't believe it. It's immoral, and exploitative.

On somewhat non-education related news, I submitted my application to grad school for School Counselor Education (to be a Guidance Counselor), and, as a reward for myself, I just downloaded Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer.

We don't have the SAT here in Canada so I don't know what they're like. Are they like placement tests to get into secondary?

Also, I just jv3'd a fg falcon.

They're tests that most high school students who want to attend college take. They're not required to graduate, but most colleges & universities require them as part of their applications. The higher your score, the better it looks on your application. Some colleges even have limits, where you (basically) can't get in unless your score meets a certain level.

 

[McKnightlíght]

this is why tuition is so high and why government wont refinance certain programs for the elderly
nobody who would care about it voted on it

ages 18-21 has one of the worst voter turn out rates, where as those in their 60s have the best
funny how that works

not voting is sadly for those who wish not to be represented, even if a two part system is gutter trash

Scrub.

Actually I would like to vote, but haven't had a politician whom I felt represented me well enough.

Tuition is high for many reasons. I wish we would eradicate the myth that college is the only way to become successful, it's filling the colleges with people in extreme debt so they can get a career in... "Uhh I'm undecided, so I'm just throwing money at it until I figure it out."

 

[Rickster]

Interrupting the politics/education talk for this

have fun

 

[Furret]

On somewhat non-education related news, I submitted my application to grad school for School Counselor Education (to be a Guidance Counselor), and, as a reward for myself, I just downloaded Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer.

just so happens my mother is a professor for that exact department

Scrub.

Actually I would like to vote, but haven't had a politician whom I felt represented me well enough.

Tuition is high for many reasons. I wish we would eradicate the myth that college is the only way to become successful, it's filling the colleges with people in extreme debt so they can get a career in... "Uhh I'm undecided, so I'm just throwing money at it until I figure it out."

meh, I just wish more kids would look at trade school, if it wasn't for how far I am in college now I would have gone to a trade school

Interrupting the politics/education talk for this

have fun

why do I watch the crap you guys post

 

[McKnightlíght]

Trade schools are a great thing. Technical schools are a great thing as well. I'm not saying that college is bad (I plan on attending classes myself in the next few years when I feel I'm in a comfortable financial situation.) I just hope people know that college isn't the only path available.

 

[Rizen]

I can't believe people are still buying into that not voting/false equivalency bull****. Do you care about same sex marriage rights, slowing landfill growth and global warming through preventative measures and renewable energy, healthcare designed to treat early symptoms and vaccinations rather than going to the emergency room, improved education, deficit reduction, science, equal treatment of all religions and not having the USA become a christian theocracy, less corporate welfare, not building a pipeline across the usa so a Canadian company can pump oil to the gulf, not invading other countries for no real reason? Then vote blue!

 

[r_greening1]

Stuff :^)

I agree with what you're saying, but let's not delve into that please. Yeah, it's important and stuff, but let's not spark a wildfire of political do's, don't 's, and maybe's. This isn't the time or place :^) I'd also rather not have people going berserk on aninternet forum

On another note, I'm writing a 900 word essay right now that's due in approximately 8 hours lol One hour in and I'm already a third of the way through. Is it bad if I can only write essays late at night if I'm playing Hatsune Miku?

Spoiler: Quick Story Time

Haven't done these in a little while. Well, I show up to my shifts about 15-20 minutes early to get an idea of what needs to happen to be successful. I show up today and my friend, who is a new manager in training, came up to me and just looked me straight in the eye and said, "I need you to be your super sassy self today."

>mfw

"That's all I know" (tbh im offended that he had to ask me)
And then something happened to where somebody was stuck in the freezer for like an hour

 

[Locke 06]

So the only way to avoid the landing lag is to land on/after the faf? Are there any other aerials that don't autocancel?

To autocancel, you have to land before the move's animation is up. Basically, DK's FAir takes however many frames to execute and then return back to the neutral aerial state, where you won't take any lag anyway. Autocanceling means you land before the move is finished, but take minimal (hard landing) landing lag.