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[KuroganeHammer]

 

[Soul.]

ninetendo is best franchise do u agreed

 

[McKnightlíght]

Your left wing propaganda won't keep me from putting my baby in the freezer when it has a fever!

 

[EODM07]

Morning girls. How's everyone doing?

Just had my breakfast and I just saw EMG's plays of the week. Poor @ SBphiloz4 . I still need to get back into Smash, since I don't want to oversaturate myself with Mario Maker.

I was playing around on For Glory, spreading the BAN •ZELDA tag without a care in the world, when THIS NESS HAPPENED. THIS NESS DESERVES A WTF.

Spoiler: Ness triggers me. A lot of characters do tbh

There was another guy named Edward who was trying to do some friendlies with this person. No wait, mindless beast. People have feelings.

At least I got a lot of funny videos before that. A lot of lagning kicks. A whole lot

Lemme try and teach him a lesson.

Spoiler: Yuri pic of the day~

 

[Strong-Arm]

Hey girls. We've been awfully quiet today. ;_;

 

[Cress!]

The Twilight Princess outfit is only to be used with the Dominion Rod, not the Rapier.
But today seems like a slow day for everyone. :/

 

[Strong-Arm]

Well I have a tournament this weekend so I hope to do fairly well. If not for bragging rights and self esteem but a little extra cash would help.

 

[EODM07]

Just got back from having my meal. So don't worry, I'm still here. <3

"One of the worst characters in the game" - @ChileZeRo 2015

Care to run that by me again?

But seriously, I don't think Bowser's the worst in the game. He's not Bottom 5 that's for sure. Few of those spots go to Palutena, Samus and Little Mac for example. And Bowser does have some aerial moves that auto cancel. SH FAir/BAir and his Side B auto cancels too. I don't think he's worst in the game, but probably Low to Bottom Mid Tier.

Also, page steal! <3

 

[Cress!]

"Don't pick Bowser, pick Sheik."
Isn't that true for any character not Sheik?

 

[Strong-Arm]

Honestly I think Mewtwo is the worst. I was like "wait what?" during the entire video. Back air and fair can auto cancel if you time it right. Eh ZeRo is a "pro" after all

 

[SBphiloz4]

"Worst character in the game" - @ChileZeRo 2015

Care to run that by me again?

But seriously, I don't think Bowser's the worst in the game. He's not Bottom 5 that's for sure. Few of those spots go to Palutena, Samus and Little Mac for example. And Bowser does have some aerial moves that auto cancel. SH FAir/BAir and his Side B auto cancels too. I don't think he's worst in the game, but probably Low to Bottom Mid Tier.

ZeRo said he's ONE of the worst, not THE worst character in the game.

And he has so many problems but I think he barely graduates from bottom 10.

I'm pretty sure that no contest that the bottom 5 consist of , in some order depending on the person.

 

[Strong-Arm]

ZeRo said he's ONE of the worst, not THE worst character in the game.

And he has so many problems but I think he barely graduates from bottom 10.

I'm pretty sure that no contest that the bottom 5 consist of , in some order depending on the person.

I honestly don't see Jiggles and Zelda in bottom 5. I mean being totally honest.

 

[EODM07]

ZeRo said he's ONE of the worst, not THE worst character in the game.

And he has so many problems but I think he barely graduates from bottom 10.

I'm pretty sure that no contest that the bottom 5 consist of , in some order depending on the person.

Okay, that's more understandable. Since I still remember that match I had against @ FullMoon . Bowser got demolished, but I'll still stick to maining him. Maybe I'm just "crazy" as he says. <3

Also, anyone up for a few matches? I'm about to get onto Smash 4.

 

[LonkQ]

If I had to nominate a bottom 5, it'd be these dudes.

Even then I'm not so sure when a couple have decent results.

 

[Strong-Arm]

I just can't see Zelda or Jiggles in bottom 5. Mewtwo and Palutena I can see. Zelda does actually have options and Jiggles is solid mid imo. I think the lack of a player base is what hurts Jiggles in 4. She really is probably the most underrated character in 4. Thats all my opinion tho.

 

[EODM07]

In all honesty. I think Dr. Mario and Mewtwo are at Bottom 5 with Palutena, Mac and Samus.

Since Doc has not a good recovery and Mewtwo is a bad mixture of tall but light. Palutena has nohing of use outside of customs, Mac's aerial game and recovery are just non existent and Samus... well. Samus is Samus. :V

 

[LonkQ]

I can see Zelda just because her air game is just that bad. I can't stop seeing her as Little Mac, but with no mobility and an actual recovery. I mean, that's not how she plays at all, but ugh. I think Palutena is not very good, but she has frustrating aspects when fighting against her. I think she deserves a bit more credit.

 

[Strong-Arm]

I think Mac is ok. He's still bottom mid or bottom but his onstage presence is scary as hell. I think Zelda and Jiggles kind of fall into the whole bandwagon "THEY SUCK AND ALWAYS SUCK NO MATTER WAT" thing. Zelda has some really good options and moves. Jiggles is the purest form of underrated and over hated. Theres little to no reason that she's bottom other than "lol she dies so easily". I used to think Zelda was trash but after playing her for as long as I have I can say she isn't unusable and can make magic things happen in the right hands. She's still easily bottom mid tho. Maybe shell get a godzilla sized buff and become the next sheik

 

[Rickster]

I'm just going to start embracing the fact that everyone thinks Zelda is horrible. No one listens anyway if you try and defend her, lol. Besides, it just means we're less likely to get big nerfs (Din's sucks anyway so its nerf is nearly irrelevant) and more likely to get more buffs.

 

[Nammy12]

Nope, Puff is bad.
2 useless specials, other 2 specials aren't that great.
This ain't melee.
She lost her edgeguarding ability, rage doesn't help her, she dies at 70%, the air dodging mechanic, etc.

Just play Wario. He's a better puff with a command grab.

 

[Flavius]

Why does everyone think Little Mac is bad. He'd be top tier if it wasn't for his terrible recovery. His frame date is one of the best in the game.

 

[LonkQ]

I don't think Mac is terrible, but he is strange to place. He can be really frustrating to fight. For Jigglypuff, I'm not entirely sure who else to put. Samus maybe since a lot of her stuff doesn't work, but I'm not entirely convinced yet. Zelda, Dedede and Mewtwo are the only ones I'd surely leave in.

 

[FullMoon]

Little Mac is a very polarized character and whether he's good or not depends a lot on the stage he's playing on.

If you get a lead on Mac you can platform camp him pretty easily in some stages but most people don't do it because it's boring.

 

[Suicidal_Donuts]

Hmm now I want to see two Elevators happen exacty at the same time...

I actually have a replay of this happening on a Kirby from the second time I did 2v2 FG. They aren't exactly at the same time, one was a few frames later than the other, but he got knocked up by BOTH startup hits, and her second hit sent him away so fast that my second hit (I was the slow one) didn't touch him hahaha. No clue who the other Zelda was though, I don't think she has the moxy to visit SassBoards.

Edit:
My bottom 5 are:
...?
The fifth place I can't decide on. All I know is that these 4 characters (and a few others) really aren't working out right now and need to be fixed in some way. It's just the fact that their flaws are so super obvious by almost anyone. They're not useless, but they sure need help.

 

[Shrokatii]

Just remembered the 3ds tournament never finished LOL

 

[EODM07]

I still got that room up if anyone wants to have a few matches.

Just remembered the 3ds tournament never finished LOL

Huh. You think they'll ever get to finishing it, or did they just decide to cancel it out of the blue?

 

[Shrokatii]

I still got that room up if anyone wants to have a few matches.



Huh. You think they'll ever get to finishing it, or did they just decide to cancel it out of the blue?

I think everyone forgot because screw the 3ds version amirite

 

[Antonykun]

Just remembered the 3ds tournament never finished LOL

the what?

 

[EODM07]

I think everyone forgot because screw the 3ds version amirite

Or maybe it didn't exist to begin with.

On my high horse I go!

 

[Soul.]

I think everyone forgot because screw the 3ds version amirite

Ah yes, the Wii U elitists. Don't worry, their precious console will die next year because of our savior, NX

 

[EODM07]

Welp. Went onto FG after a while, since a lot of people seem to be busy with real life stuff or school.

And I remembered why I don't go onto FG. Bad players. Bad players everywhere.

Fought a pretty bad G&W and ROB user, and he was just spamming Chef and Judge with G&W and doing nothing but rolling and throwing out Gyros and Beams with ROB, it was awful.

 

[Baskerville]

Welp. Went onto FG after a while, since a lot of people seem to be busy with real life stuff or school.

And I remembered why I don't go onto FG. Bad players. Bad players everywhere.

Fought a pretty bad G&W and ROB user, and he was just spamming Chef and Judge with G&W and doing nothing but rolling and throwing out Gyros and Beams with ROB, it was awful.

The first person that I came across on FG today was a Ryu player surprisingly.
He was ****ing good! For real I say Ryu is the most fun character to fight against.

 

[EODM07]

The first person that I came across on FG today was a Ryu player surprisingly.
He was ****ing good! For real I say Ryu is the most fun character to fight against.

You're lucky then. ;w;
I seem to get some of the rather bad players. D:

Also, I managed to figure out my Win/Loss from facing you guys in Smash.

206/640

If I combine that with my FG matches. I have about 373/981.
Yeah I'm bad at this. :B

 

[Baskerville]

You're lucky then. ;w;
I seem to get some of the rather bad players. D:

Also, I managed to figure out my Win/Loss from facing you guys in Smash.

206/640

If I combine that with my FG matches. I have about 373/981.
Yeah I'm bad at this. :B

Matchmaking on For Glory is pretty much a luck of the draw. Out of the first 10 people you fight against you at least 1 or 2 are actually decent.

 

[EODM07]

Matchmaking on For Glory is pretty much a luck of the draw. Out of the first 10 people you fight against you at least 1 or 2 are actually decent.

True. It's kinda annoying when they leave after one match. I'd like them to stay and fight more. :V
But oh well, I don't really count my FG Matches anyways. Since it's a pretty messed up system.

Hopefully I can improve some more. Since it seems like my W/L ratio is around 31%. But that just shows my skill against some of you guys, definitely have room to improve.
Hopefully I can attain that soon.

 

[TTTTTsd]

In all honesty. I think Dr. Mario and Mewtwo are at Bottom 5 with Palutena, Mac and Samus.

Since Doc has not a good recovery and Mewtwo is a bad mixture of tall but light. Palutena has nohing of use outside of customs, Mac's aerial game and recovery are just non existent and Samus... well. Samus is Samus. :V

Where can I get your weed? Dr. Mario isn't anywhere near Mewtwo levels of bad, his recovery is below average but still perfectly usable because pretty much anyone except like Little Mac can recover in this game (only MUs Doc really hates recovery in is when he tries to offstage style like I do too much or vs. Pikachu or MAYYYBEEE Sheik), he has like, Top 3 shield options in the game with Up+B, Down-B is stupidly good and would make any character much better (like Mario), the list goes on. UpSmash is ridiculous and is probably one of the best reactionary anti airs in the game. His edgeguarding is by and far better than Mario's in any given matchup, etc. honestly I think his recovery is about on par with someone like Roy who has better distance but literally 0 ways to mix it up at all and dies to a love tap, unlike Doc who can get some horizontal distance/stall with Tornado if he wants, which can actually reverse edgeguard if they're dumb enough to try and challenge it with something that isn't fairly disjointed.

Putting him anywhere near Mewtwo means you should probably know what da HAYULL you talkin bout before you say it :V

My personal perspective is that he's right outside Bottom 10, at like, 12th-15th, for anyone curious. I've put like, infinite time into this character so I can consider myself someone who would know this.

 

[kenniky]

bottom 5 imo



(no particular order except zelda is 5th to last)

 

[EODM07]

Where can I get your weed? Dr. Mario isn't anywhere near Mewtwo levels of bad, his recovery is below average but still perfectly usable because pretty much anyone except like Little Mac can recover in this game (only MUs Doc really hates recovery in is when he tries to offstage style like I do too much or vs. Pikachu or MAYYYBEEE Sheik), he has like, Top 3 shield options in the game with Up+B, Down-B is stupidly good and would make any character much better (like Mario), the list goes on.

Putting him anywhere near Mewtwo means you should probably know what da HAYULL you talkin bout before you say it :V

My personal perspective is that he's right outside Bottom 10, at like, 12th-15th, for anyone curious. I've put like, infinite time into this character so I can consider myself someone who would know this.

Sorry about that. I wasn't thinking at the time. D:
I would say Swordfighter is down there, but honestly, I'll get the butter knife from @ Antonykun coming my way. I don't really know anymore, I can only say wholeheartedly that Samus, Mac, Mewtwo and Palutena are bottom 5.

Also, if you would like some weed. TOO BAD.
I used some weed killer, last of it is gone.

 

[Rickster]

My bottom 5 in no real order
,oror
I'll go hide now

 

[Antonykun]

Sorry about that. I wasn't thinking at the time. D:
I would say Swordfighter is down there, but honestly, I'll get the butter knife from @ Antonykun coming my way. I don't really know anymore, I can only say wholeheartedly that Samus, Mac, Mewtwo and Palutena are bottom 5.

Also, if you would like some weed. TOO BAD.
I used some weed killer, last of it is gone.

Call Swordspider bottom 10 if you want I'll be bathing in the buffs over there

Kill throw here I come