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[SpiralGalaxies]

Roastedluma was not touched

there is a god

Robin's d-throw sets up nicely into some aerials and true combos into u-air at certain percetnages. There were some other changes but I don't think they did anything to Robin's major issues

This is pretty cool. It's a start and i'll take what I can get. Any Lucas buffs?

Check the Zelda "official" patch thread OP for details! Jab does 8% and connects better, Dtilt does 5.5% now, and Phantom has almost no blind spot now!

i shall do so!

 

[ZombieBran]

I SAW THE TITLE CHANGE WHAT HAPPENED WHAT HAPPENED

also did robin get buffed? did rosalina get nerfed? these are things i need to know thanks.

Robin got the dthrow buff of the GODS. Check the Robin boards for full details.
Also some damage to Thunder, Elthunder, and both Fairs!

Biggest thing for Zelda is that Phantom has a windbox now. Leads into the hit at low charges and pushes foes away at higher charges if the hit itself whiffs.

Ike got another buff lmao. And Sheik's Fair was nerfed again???
Super pleased with this patch =)

 

[LancerStaff]

Dark Pit's page is blank. Pit's page has something but I don't understand what it says

That doesn't make any sense at all... Dspecial was definitely changed. Before the default and one of it's customs had precisely the same startup, now the default looks like a hasty fast-forward job. Unless Dark Pit's data is somehow working off of Pit's now, which makes even less sense...

 

[ZombieBran]

That doesn't make any sense at all... Dspecial was definitely changed. Before the default and one of it's customs had precisely the same startup, now the default looks like a hasty fast-forward job. Unless Dark Pit's data is somehow working off of Pit's now, which makes even less sense...

Changes to projectile and non-conventional specials seem to all be missing from the data dumps.
I know Zelda's Phantom buff isn't listed, for example.

 

[r_greening1]

@ BJN39 when is that solar storm happening again?

 

[BJN39]

@ BJN39 when is that solar storm happening again?

LOL I MIXED UP A STORY ON A STUDY WITH ACTUAL DOOMSDAY. MY BAD GORL. (It's noodle all over again smh.) There won't be a solar storm for now. :^)

Also, we got that @KuroganeHammer confirmeT gold! Utilt FAF brought forward from 33 to 30! 3F earlier!

 

[Soul.]

so just asking, has Zelda always been able to autocancel her NAir?

 

[LancerStaff]

Changes to projectile and non-conventional specials seem to all be missing from the data dumps.
I know Zelda's Phantom buff isn't listed, for example.

And Dspecial sure is non-conventional.

So that confirms no startup or endlag changes? Or just startup like before?

 

[BJN39]

so just asking, has Zelda always been able to autocancel her NAir?

SH AC? Yeah.

 

[SpiralGalaxies]

[tournament mode is filled with customs and ugh.

Still fun though.

 

[Shrokatii]

LOL I MIXED UP A STORY ON A STUDY WITH ACTUAL DOOMSDAY. MY BAD GORL. (It's noodle all over again smh.) There won't be a solar storm for now. :^)

Also, we got that @KuroganeHammer confirmeT gold! Utilt FAF brought forward from 33 to 30! 3F earlier!

Wait, doomsday is coming at 4:00 am? Oh crap I barely had time to do utilt>fw

 

[Baskerville]

Roastedluma was not touched

Meanwhile Falco...

 

[McKnightlíght]

I'm pretty sad.

My favorite singing puff ball got nothing and the booty gawdess got nerfed :[

This is a very glum time for me. I'm glad Lucina and Zelda got buffed though!

And @ BJN39 I'm sorry, I was fashionably late All the gorls here need a Max Caulfield avatar!

BAN•MAX

I SAW THE TITLE CHANGE WHAT HAPPENED WHAT HAPPENED

also did robin get buffed? did rosalina get nerfed? these are things i need to know thanks.

BAN•MAX? Speak for yourself!!

REPENT SINNER

Roastedluma was not touched

Robin's d-throw sets up nicely into some aerials and true combos into u-air at certain percetnages. There were some other changes but I don't think they did anything to Robin's major issues

Check the Zelda "official" patch thread OP for details! Jab does 8% and connects better, Dtilt does 5.5% now, and Phantom has almost no blind spot now!

Wow, SpiralGalaxies with that Max Combo Breaker

Better luck next time gorls.

 

[Rickster]

One thing I really like about the new DLC is that we finally have another Omega LoZ stage that doesn't screw Farore's up.

 

[McKnightlíght]

Does anyone know a good screen capture?

Like one that is simple to use?

Edit: Because I am dinosaur when technology.

 

[Suicidal_Donuts]

How I feel about the patch when I look at 2 of my mains who got buffed, & :

Spoiler

How I feel about the patch when I look at my other main, , in comparison:

Spoiler

 

[Cress!]

Found the match where Bill Trinnen played as Zelda and he's really good! The only thing bad about his play was he went for dash attacks when he should've grabbed, and he should've used back/up throw instead of down when DDD was at like 120%

 

[Rickster]

Found the match where Bill Trinnen played as Zelda and he's really good! The only thing bad about his play was he went for dash attacks when he should've grabbed, and he should've used back/up throw instead of down when DDD was at like 120%

Wow, that actually wasn't that bad. He has a bad rolling habit though, and his Farore's got predictable.

 

[RedCap-BlueSpikes]

I'm happy about the confirmed Palutena buffs. Extra damage on F-air, larger hitboxes on N-air/D-tilt/F-tilt, F-tilt's hitboxes link better, and I think a slightly better airdodge(????????????). Just waiting to see if the grab buffs I keep hearing about are real. Someone in the Palutena Skype Group said her 3 grabs are "way faster" and he was testing both versions side-by-side but idk, I don't wanna believe it until I see undeniable proof.

Nice to see Zelda's been buffed too. It was always so sad how Phantom whiffed point blank. Hopefully, by the end of the patch cycle for this game, all of the low-tiers will be formidable enough to do at least decently in-tournament.

 

[Berserker.]

I'm just glad Back Slash isn't Ganon-tier bad

There's a major tournament tomorrow but idk if I'm going. I'm definitely going Shulk but I wanna try out Robin and Palutena

 

[Soul.]

I still find it funny that Pika received no changes... though I've been hearing that Thunder Wave's infinite is no longer possible.
Will try to check later. I'm tired as ****. lol

 

[EODM07]

Morning girls. How's everyone doing?

Just having my breakfast and had a mess around with the YouTube integration on Smash 4. I'm liking it so far, uploaded a test video and that one Roy combo I found which is situational and not very reliable. :V
Situational and unreliable because of the following:
- Opponent can jump/DI away before you can chain into first FAir

Spoiler: Yuri pic of the day~

And I'll be checking my University stuff right now.

 

[Baskerville]

Just testing it out to see how it looks. Looks pretty nice.
No 60fps option and 3 minute limit kinda sucks tho.

 

[Leinacx]

All hail Sakurai for hearing our prayers! our princess is now getting the buffs she deserves! I'm very happy with the buff Zelda got and Uptilt feels faster? YESSSS

 

[Berserker.]

Oh yeah. I forgot. It was my brother's (@berserker00) birthday yesterday and I was suppose to post that here. Whoops

So yeah. Have a minor buff as a present

 

[Nammy12]

Does anyone know a good screen capture?

Like one that is simple to use?

Edit: Because I am dinosaur when technology.

For pc?
OBS is nice.

 

[kenniky]

Can you have a look at? Dspecial got buffed in startup, would like to know exactly how much and if there's anything else. Rapid jab finisher seems suspect.

Dunno if been answered before, but Dspecial is probably an article, so it's not in the files; Pit's rapid jab finisher got bigger. Dark Pit is unchanged apart from possibly articles.

 

[Trieste SP]

Morning girls. How's everyone doing?

Evening~

Aside from the usual things I do on a daily basis, I'm rehearsing a couple songs for a special occasion in a couple weeks. One's going to be in Japanese, another Korean and the last one in my native language. Personally, I didn't want to perform because my Korean has gotten a little rusty because I really don't have anyone here that speaks Korean or Japanese. I've kept up my Japanese by usually watching anime without the subtitles.

Anyways, I'll tell you the Japanese song I'm going to be performing. It's called オレンジ or Orange. It's performed by 7!!. I believe it's most well known from an anime called 四月は君の嘘 or Your Lie in April.

 

[EODM07]

Evening~

Aside from the usual things I do on a daily basis, I'm rehearsing a couple songs for a special occasion in a couple weeks. One's going to be in Japanese, another Korean and the last one in my native language. Personally, I didn't want to perform because my Korean has gotten a little rusty because I really don't have anyone here that speaks Korean or Japanese. I've kept up my Japanese by usually watching anime without the subtitles.

Anyways, I'll tell you the Japanese song I'm going to be performing. It's called オレンジ or Orange. It's performed by 7!!. I believe it's most well known from an anime called 四月は君の嘘 or Your Lie in April.

Didn't know you were a musician. That's pretty cool.

 

[Trieste SP]

Didn't know you were a musician. That's pretty cool.

Ehh.. I'm not really a musician. It's just that I perform from time to time for special occasions... usually not by my desires.

 

[Phenomiracle]

Lol @ Sheiks upset of Fair "nerf."

Happy belated, @berserker00!

 

[Ffamran]

Someone posted this in the patch thread. The Pits also have lower end lag with their arrows... And Robin too...

Seriously? Why? Aside from Robin who had decent, but now better projectiles or Zelda who had a stupid Phantom Slash, why Fox, the Pits, and Greninja? What about Falco who still has 59 frames of end lag for reward that's probably worse than Greninja's uncharged Water Shuriken? Or even Samus who has a good projectile, but when it's the only thing she does while Missiles are meh, why not buff hers? Once again, might as remove Falco's Blaster since it's such a pathetic projectile slowly becoming more pathetic.

 

[Macchiato]

PRAISE THE WIIFIT AND ZELDA BUFFS

I'll list the confirmed while we discuss below.

data dump by dantarion is HERE
char data by thinkama is HERE
human anatomy by indigo jeans is HERE
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Utilt - damaged increased from 8 to 10

Fsmash - hitbox sizes increased

Usmash - hitbox size increased, KBG increased, KBG increased by 2 on all hitboxes

Dsmash - damage increased from 10/8 →12/10, KBG increased 107→110

Nair - 1st hit hitbox size increased, 2nd hit knockback growth increased, KGB increased by 2 on all hitboxes

Fair - KBG increased by 2 on all hitboxes

Bair - KBG increased by 2 on all hitboxes

Uair- KBG increased by 2 on all hitboxes

Dair - knockback growth increased by 2, late hit base knockback increased

Standing grab, Dash Grab, Pivot Grab - hitbox lowered

Header - KBG increased by 1 on all hitboxes and custom variations

Header Cancel recovery drastically reduced

Header(ball) health increased

Default and Sweeping Sun healing buffed by 1%

Deep Breathing buffed (something around an additional .30%)

 

[Trieste SP]

Someone posted this in the patch thread. The Pits also have lower end lag with their arrows... And Robin too...

Seriously? Why? Aside from Robin who had decent, but now better projectiles or Zelda who had a stupid Phantom Slash, why Fox, the Pits, and Greninja? What about Falco who still has 59 frames of end lag for reward that's probably worse than Greninja's uncharged Water Shuriken? Or even Samus who has a good projectile, but when it's the only thing she does while Missiles are meh, why not buff hers? Once again, might as remove Falco's Blaster since it's such a pathetic projectile slowly becoming more pathetic.

They could at the very least increase the hitstun of the lazers if they're not going to lower the end lag of the move. Did Falco get any changes in this patch?

 

[Antonykun]

Someone posted this in the patch thread. The Pits also have lower end lag with their arrows... And Robin too...

Seriously? Why? Aside from Robin who had decent, but now better projectiles or Zelda who had a stupid Phantom Slash, why Fox, the Pits, and Greninja? What about Falco who still has 59 frames of end lag for reward that's probably worse than Greninja's uncharged Water Shuriken? Or even Samus who has a good projectile, but when it's the only thing she does while Missiles are meh, why not buff hers? Once again, might as remove Falco's Blaster since it's such a pathetic projectile slowly becoming more pathetic.

Glad to see you saints row 3 session is over

 

[Berserker.]

Robin's projectiles are still on the slow side when it comes to travel speed. The damage buffs are nice though and the d-throw buffs are pretty good. I'm still suspicious about some possible changes for Shulk (someone please spare me from the placebo) ;-;

 

[Ffamran]

They could at the very least increase the hitstun of the lazers if they're not going to lower the end lag of the move. Did Falco get any changes in this patch?

Nope and nobody knows if he has any end lag, animation, or special effects changes. For all we know, Falco has a Jojo pose during his idle animation now. Well, someone said his Bair has electricity effects on the Wii U... I'm sorry for your loss, Zelda.

Glad to see you saints row 3 session is over

Nah, I just woke up... People still believe Falco has a windbox on his Nair and attribute that to Yoshi's Bair change. It's autolink angle! That's what's making them act weird and better!

 

[Dee-SmashinBoss]

so....what changes did Zelda get??
And if anyone knows, what Changes did Peach get? I swear those boards are not active.

 

[kenniky]

They could at the very least increase the hitstun of the lazers if they're not going to lower the end lag of the move. Did Falco get any changes in this patch?

No changes to any melee moves. Reflector/Blaster shots have yet to be mined.

 

[EODM07]

so....what changes did Zelda get??
And if anyone knows, what Changes did Peach get? I swear those boards are not active.

Zelda's DTilt and Jab got damage buffs (DTilt 4% > 5.5%. Jab 6% >8%), her Phantom Slash also no longer has a blindspot and it pushes your opponent (However, those who are shielding will ignore the pushing/windbox)