Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

[Virtue]

Meanwhile Jigglypuff has went through 4 character updates without a single buff. Smh

 

[Zylach]

Massive Jab edits. Hitboxes removed from bones and set in specific locations, smaller ones are bigger, angle and KB edits.

Jab
    all looping hitboxes
        bone 14/17/0 –> all 0
        damage 2.0 –> 2.5
        angle 361/361/80 –> 361/140/140
        wkb 40/30/7 –> 40/40/30
        size 2.5/3.0/4.0 –> 3.2/3.2/4.0
        z 3.0/0.0/0.0 –> 0.0/0.0/0.0
        y 0.0/0.0/12.5 –> all 12.5
        x 0.0/0.0/0.0 –> 5.5/9.5/13.0
    all final hitboxes
        bone 14/17/0 –> all 0
        damage 2.0 –> 3.0
        bkb 24 –> 35
        kbg 150 –> 130
        size 6.0/3.0/2.5 –> 6.0/3.6/3.6
        z 3.0/0.0/0.0 –> 0.0/0.0/0.0
        y 0.0/0.0/12.5 –> all 12.5
        x 0.0/0.0/0.0 –> 5.5/9.5/13.0

Dtilt
        damage 4.5 –> 5.5

Frame data for FAFs are currently un checked.

Also missing obvious Phantom Slash buffs. Wtf it causes ACTUALLY HITSTUN on the wind boxes.

Pretending like I can read this: So, it looks like the hitbox starts closer to her body now. The WKB changes make it so it's harder to fall out but the values aren't incredible changes. The hitbox is bigger as well by a smidge.

 

[Deleted member]

Real talk tho, I'm pretty bummed Jiggly wasn't changed. Every other character seems to have gotten something ;-;

I haven't heard about Peach though. Any of you gorls know if she got anything?

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I think the angle change on jab slightly affects jab > Farore's reappear (idek if anyone uses that but...) Instead of angling Farore's diagonally down, now you have to hold straight horizontally to hit since at high percents your opponent is now higher in the air instead of nearly touching the ground

 

[Macchiato]

Real talk tho, I'm pretty bummed Jiggly wasn't changed. Every other character seems to have gotten something ;-;

I haven't heard about Peach though. Any of you gorls know if she got anything?

A parasol endlag nerf. YAY something

 

[NekoJubei]

The Phantom's windbox having knockback scares me lolz

 

[Berserker.]

Eeeeh. I still feel like they didn't alleviate Robin's issues at all, but the buff is nice

 

[Ffamran]

How is windows 10?

The same as Windows 95, 98, ME, XP, Vista, 7, and 8.1; OSX, Android's silly OS names, and Linux. I am dead serious; I've used all of these before. It's an OS. What else is supposed to be "extraordinary" about it? OSes are both annoying and useful. I don't care what it is or what it's called; you use it and that's it.

Anyway, Windows 10 failed the first installation, worked for the second, got screwed over by Lenovo, Microsoft, and AMD if you have a Y40-70 that requires you to either be quick right-clicking the start button, clicking device manager, and disabling AMD under graphics adapter or whatever it's called or booting in safe mode and doing the same thing there or reverting back to Windows 8.1. If you don't do this, you'll deal with a looping restart where your laptop has an "internal power error". Once you've fixed that, you have Windows 10 and that's that. No tiles, but the system boots slower, well, relative to newer machines since old machines... yeah... I still remember the PS2's booting... Oh wait, that's because I still own one. Also, there's no "external", loads like **** start menu since there's an actual start menu.

 

[BJN39]

Pardon me while I still am not evening over Zorldo buffs.

lol at WiiFit getting KBG increases of 2 on just about every move.

ALSO HER DSMASH MUST DELETE PEOPLE NOW. DAMAGE AND KB INCREASE?!

 

[kenniky]

Robin changelog:

Dthrow combos into stuff

Fair is stronger

Elthunder is stronger


Btw, can someone test falcon's jab finisher's range? I have a feeling it was nerfed.

 

[「 Derk 」]

Jab seems to link hits a lot better now. Even at 999% I am getting all 3 hits at max distance to connect. Also something about Nayru's Love feels different.

 

[Deleted member]

A parasol endlag nerf. YAY something

I will walk over to Sakurai's house and shove a parasol up his rear.

How could he do this ;-;

 

[Ffamran]

...

Hahahahaha!!! Windows 10 "fixed" Sacred Gold, an old as **** game that Windows 8(.1) was incapable of playing without screen fearing, poor framerate, and other BS that makes a modern machine look pathetic! Now, I can finally play an old game... after I finish Saints Row 3.

lol at WiiFit getting KBG increases of 2 on just about every move.

ALSO HER DSMASH MUST DELETE PEOPLE NOW. DAMAGE AND KB INCREASE?!

As a frame 18 move, I expect it to do more than send people horizontally. Finally, WFT's Down Smash actually does something.

 

[r_greening1]

W-we got...... buffed?

inb4 Din's fire nerf

 

[FullMoon]

I think Greninja was the biggest winner in this patch.

Those shurikens man lol.

 

[Berserker.]

N-air > Back Slash is possible

LOL

 

[Rickster]

Omg the Shuriken buff is gonna make fighting that campy Greninja player at my local EVEN MORE FRUSTRATING.

EDIT: New LoZ Medley track is amazing.

 

[「 Derk 」]

I will never be able to shoot a phantom from behind a villager to pocket again. What a cruel world this has become.

Spoiler

jk, blindspot wont be missed.

 

[Soul.]

I'm glad we mouse mains got no changes at all lmao.
http://opensa.dantarion.com/s4/raw/diff-128-144/pikachu.html
thats all there is to it gg

 

[FullMoon]

Greninja will zone people out forever with shurikens now. It's Falco lasers on one of the most mobile characters in the game. He can play campy to his heart content now lol.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Sonic got knockback nerfs...

 

[Deleted member]

I can't wait to get a job. I currently have no DLC besides Mewtwo (got him for free) and Lucas (got him by winning a tourney). It sucks not having money

 

[Rizen]

Link got minor 1 frame faster buffs on his dash/pivot grabs.

 

[kenniky]

If anyone knows how to actually read frame data cares, can you crosscheck my work here

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3f8hvn/the_v110_patch_changelist/

With the dantarion data

ty <3

 

[Berserker.]

@ kenniky

To be exact, Back Slash's start up was frame 31 at the older version. Now, it's frame 25.

 

[BJN39]

So, raw testing of Zelda's Utilt seems to agree that its end lag is lower. :3 I'll have to ask Aero to test it for me.

So like, I LITERALLY, called all of Zelda's known A-move changes as possible buffs. (Jab, Dtilt, Utilt?) I'm unable to even.

 

[FullMoon]

Samus confirmed worst character in the game because lol no changes.

 

[「 Derk 」]

Check Nayru's Love if you can. Something feels different about it. The outer hits at the end seem to act different and it seems the angles it sends were changed maybe. It is throwing people behind me way more often than I remember it doing before the update.

Edit: Then again, I have been playing mainly Splatoon for the past month so my memory may be a little off lol

 

[Soul.]

I wish Jigglypuff received changes.

 

[Berserker.]

Samus confirmed worst character in the game because lol no changes.

She was the worst character even before the patch imo

 

[Cress!]

Read on Twitter that Bill Trinnen was playing Zelda on a Twitch stream. I NEED to see that.

 

[Rickster]

Check Nayru's Love if you can. Something feels different about it. The outer hits at the end seem to act different and it seems the angles it sends were changed maybe. It is throwing people behind me way more often than I remember it doing before the update.

Edit: Then again, I have been playing mainly Splatoon for the past month so my memory may be a little off lol

I agree. Something is...different. I tried hitting Mario with the bottom of it after short hopping and he got hit by the first hit and the last hit. Hitbox changes?

EDIT: I'm also getting that thing where they're thrown behind you when it looks like they should be thrown forward.

 

[「 Derk 」]

Oh, it seems Din's Fire got the same change that removed Love boosting last update. You can't slide off the edge anymore which is a nice anti-SD change.

 

[BJN39]

So you gorls are about to flip out when you see Phantom Breaker.

• Pseudo-spike/smack down and low hit angles
• Damage on par with standard at mid/max charge OMG.
• Windbox fixes like standard.


Edit : Wait, I need to check something...

Edit 2 : Crap, testing error on the damage. It's unchanged.

 

[Burgundy]

I wanna hear the Zelda Medley so badly

 

[McKnightlíght]

Sonic got knockback nerfs...

*sigh*

 

[SBphiloz4]

So apparently Captain Falcon trades 1% for his Bair in exchange that the sweetspot can actually TRIP the opponent. So much for getting nerfs.

Also Tourney Mode is REALLY stupid. You can ONLY host FREE FOR ALL tourneys even though you can set the stock count and items and all that stuff. The only 1v1 tourneys that can be hosted must be from Nintendo themselves. Also everything is BO1 and stuff too.

WHY SAKURAI

 

[FullMoon]

So apparently Captain Falcon trades 1% for his Bair in exchange that the sweetspot can actually TRIP the opponent. So much for getting nerfs.

Also Tourney Mode is REALLY stupid. You can ONLY host FREE FOR ALL tourneys even though you can set the stock count and items and all that stuff. The only 1v1 tourneys that can be hosted must be from Nintendo themselves. Also everything is BO1 and stuff too.

WHY SAKURAI

The youtube feature only allows you to upload 3 minute matches too.

 

[☆Jazz☆]

Samus confirmed worst character in the game because lol no changes.

She was the worst character even before the patch imo

Deh Samus hate is too stronk.

We talk trash about Samus daily here. I mean, even Sakurai hates her.

She's literally a human punching bag, that gets blows landed hard on her due to being absolute trash in this iteration of Smash. Zelda be like "Hey, Sanus, Substitute for me in bottom tier for Sm4sh gorl."
And Heyyyyyyy

 

[Kofu]

She was the worst character even before the patch imo

I probably have a slightly higher opinion of Samus compared to most people.

Anyway since I still can't play I can't test Game & Watch changes but there are alterations to jab, DTilt, FSmash, NAir, BAir, UAir, and... subaction 1AB (dunno what it is, possibly a taunt or a dodge). The change is "universal" for these attacks, changing a line of code from 0x10000085 to 0x10000086 in the beginning of each action (the 0x10000085 itself was changed from 1.0.4's 0x10000080). I'm not real hopeful lol. Though I've been hearing about possible landing lag buffs.