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[r_greening1]

Do you mean like use Farore's so they have to airdodge and then teleport straight down to where they'd land? If so, you can't do that in this game because new FW mechanics make it so that when you teleport down you go either diagonally left/right >_> Oh and the dair thing is percent dependent? That's really helpful to know, thanks for telling me!

I think I misunderstood you lol I thought they would land from the footstool and you would be able to fastfall onto them. And yeah, the dair can't be to the point where they are launched by the sour spot.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I think I misunderstood you lol I thought they would land from the footstool and you would be able to fastfall onto them. And yeah, the dair can't be to the point where they are launched by the sour spot.

Oh that's weird...I'm doing it at the percent where it doesn't launch them but it still sometimes doesn't force a getup

 

[FullMoon]

He's really good. Back in TGC1, he made it sooooo far in loser's to the point where he even landed 5th place.

Wow, I didn't know. I never managed to beat him in the ladder but I did get pretty close to it a few times.

Considering I have the disadvantage in that case, I'll consider that a good result.

He's a really cool guy too, he and a certain Peach player in the ladder (Maleficent) are two players I kinda look up to in a way.

 

[Ffamran]

I don't post anything in that thread, because I find it pointless. It not going to help me get better with my main so what the point of it?

To debunk theories and destroy misinformation which is my main goal with Falco and anyone else. Which is why I argue against frame data being everything, characters being judged way too harshly or praised way too high, etc. It's just the vague posts that are stupid and aren't allowed, but people post them anyway.

 

[Soul.]

Pretty sure a world without chaingrabs would make it a better place

Nah, as long as the cancer known as the Ice Climbers doesn't exist, it will be fine.
edit: P A G E S T E A L B O Y S , A G A I N

 

[UkeNicky]

What's all this talk of footstooling Dair with Zelda for free Lightning Kick o.o ?
This sounds like one of those "as seen on TV" things like it's just too good to be true but also fishy.

 

[r_greening1]

Oh that's weird...I'm doing it at the percent where it doesn't launch them but it still sometimes doesn't force a getup

Hmm... Well they first have to be on the ground from missing a tech from some move, then you have 25 frames to smack them with a sourspot dair, then it should work.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Hmm... Well they first have to be on the ground from missing a tech from some move, then you have 25 frames to smack them with a sourspot dair, then it should work.

Hmm... let me go make a gif showing you it not forcing a getup

 

[SBphiloz4]

Remember that I posted this long ago that potentially dwells into Zelda's footstool metagame.

Dthrow -> HARD READ THE AIR DODGE -> footstool -> FW

If someone could pull that off I'll be their bottom to their top for a day. :^)

 

[Antonykun]

... Really? I deleted the personal stuff, bolded the really "interesting" ones, and the rest... they're vague as ****. Why the hell would you post something so vague and why the hell are half of these characters even on there if you have no idea about their MU. Seriously, look at Falco, Mario, and Fox's description. THERE'S A QUESTION MARK FOR FOX'S! That literally questions your credibility. First post, tier lists, MU lists, and coming from no credibility at all made worse by how the entire post is vague. Yay, CCI... The place to lose brain cells and rage.

wow now I wanna say something in character competitive have no fun and scream interenally thread

 

[Alacion]

Brb convincing VSB to host Brawl tourneys.

The game is still young, so results won't be able to tell the whole story so far. I mean, a Mii Sword won a tourney before, so anything can happen. I will admit that Peach has no results to back her up as of now, but I really hope that with time, people will realize that she does have some hidden potential in her.

Haha, good idea. I'm still retired though! May go to that local Melee thing tomorrow or just give up. Feeling the latter.

 

[UkeNicky]

If someone could pull that off I'll be their bottom to their top for a day. :^)

No offense but we need more top than bottom tiers Imo there's already so many bottoms.
It's nothing personal *footstools off of you*

 

[Ffamran]

wow now I wanna say something in character competitive have no fun and scream interenally thread

This is how the CCI should be viewed.

 

[Rizen]

This is how the CCI should be viewed.

More like this:

 

[Kofu]

Man, I love playing FG when players have tags like "PATHETIC" and after I (barely) beat their ROB with Ness they counterpick Rosalina just to screw my recovery. Not helping matters is my general inexperience with Ness and with fighting Rosalina, so I get two-stocked. Then he leaves.

Anyone up for a few matches?

 

[r_greening1]

Man, I love playing FG when players have tags like "PATHETIC" and after I (barely) beat their ROB with Ness they counterpick Rosalina just to screw my recovery. Not helping matters is my general inexperience with Ness and with fighting Rosalina, so I get two-stocked. Then he leaves.

Anyone up for a few matches?

I'm up for it! The NNID: Topherster (Wii-U right?)

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

@ r_greening1 So it seems to force the getup a lot more often on floaty characters...not sure if it's coincidental but I'll test it tomorrow

Anyways, here it is forcing the getup:

And not forcing the getup for unknown reasons:

 

[Antonykun]

Man, I love playing FG when players have tags like "PATHETIC" and after I (barely) beat their ROB with Ness they counterpick Rosalina just to screw my recovery. Not helping matters is my general inexperience with Ness and with fighting Rosalina, so I get two-stocked. Then he leaves.

Anyone up for a few matches?

wow, that's what Rosalinda will do to a guy corrupt them into a helpless jerk

 

[Lavani]

And not forcing the getup for unknown reasons:

You're too late with the dair.

 

[r_greening1]

@ r_greening1 So it seems to force the getup a lot more often on floaty characters...not sure if it's coincidental but I'll test it tomorrow

Anyways, here it is forcing the getup:

And not forcing the getup for unknown reasons:

HMMMMMMMMMMMMM......... GG sir. The reason is beyond me lol
Maybe the Dair isn't coming out fast enough?

 

[Antonykun]

here's @ Ffamran rebutting that vague ash post with out sounding like a jerk
http://smashboards.com/threads/character-competitive-impressions.367669/page-645#post-19177357

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

So if I really am too late with the dair...now I finally have something to test tomorrow (I feel like I've said tomorrow 20 thousand times lol) Thanks Lavani.

 

[Soul.]

The competitive boards are hilarious.
Hilarious in the sense that I'm still feeling the salt of deleting a post for clarifying something about autocancels on the Mewtwo Patch thread.

 

[UkeNicky]

@ r_greening1 So it seems to force the getup a lot more often on floaty characters...not sure if it's coincidental but I'll test it tomorrow

Anyways, here it is forcing the getup:

And not forcing the getup for unknown reasons:

;-; Peach.. Why couldn't you test it on someone we all don't care about like oh Idunno Diddy

Lol Lavani, myth busted xD

 

[r_greening1]

So if I really am too late with the dair...now I finally have something to test tomorrow (I feel like I've said tomorrow 20 thousand times lol) Thanks Lavani.

That would be my guess, 25 frames is pretty strict timing for our aerials

 

[Antonykun]

;-; Peach.. Why couldn't you test it on someone we all don't care about like oh Idunno Diddy

because zoroldo is the superior princess waifu

 

[FullMoon]

Man the ladder is being hard now. I can barely get into top 25 and I'm always shoved right back at 26th almost immediatelly after it.

 

[SBphiloz4]

@ r_greening1 So it seems to force the getup a lot more often on floaty characters...not sure if it's coincidental but I'll test it tomorrow

Anyways, here it is forcing the getup:

And not forcing the getup for unknown reasons:

There's a certain time frame where the opponent will be forced into jab lock, any earlier or later would result in a non-jab lock situation.

Sourspot Fair and Dair also works for this.

 

[Antonykun]

Man the ladder is being hard now. I can barely get into top 25 and I'm always shoved right back at 26th almost immediatelly after it.

I believe in you!

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

;-; Peach.. Why couldn't you test it on someone we all don't care about like oh Idunno Diddy

LOL I'M SRY NICKY I was looking at the character select screen for someone floaty and I was like OH YEAH PEACH. FOOTSTOOL PRINCESS SHOWDOWN KK

 

[r_greening1]

There's a certain time frame where the opponent will be forced into jab lock, any earlier or later would result in a non-jab lock situation.

Sourspot Fair and Dair also works for this.

@ S.F.L.R_9 I KNEW F-AIR AND B-AIR WORKED!!! :D

 

[UkeNicky]

LOL I'M SRY NICKY I was looking at the character select screen for someone floaty and I was like OH YEAH PEACH. FOOTSTOOL PRINCESS SHOWDOWN KK

Your punishment will be quite severe!

Spoiler: Not for the faint of heart

Ouch, Neverending cycle

 

[r_greening1]

I"M REALLY FEELING A PAGE STEAL!!

Edit : I'll go cry now
Edit #2 : @ Soul. (Tell me your page-stealing secrets!!)

 

[2004Zilla]

I"M REALLY FEELING A PAGE STEAL!!

???

 

[Trieste SP]

I"M REALLY FEELING A PAGE STEAL!!

Edit : I'll go cry now

Page steal. Wat

 

[Ffamran]

here's @ Ffamran rebutting that vague ash post with out sounding like a jerk
http://smashboards.com/threads/character-competitive-impressions.367669/page-645#post-19177357

Aww... I need to channel my inner Daffy and be more of an *** to people.

 

[Soul.]

I"M REALLY FEELING A PAGE STEAL!!

Edit : I'll go cry now
Edit #2 : @ Soul. (Tell me your page-stealing secrets!!)

1. Go back to previous page
2. Scroll down
3. See the number of messages on the bottom right corner
4. gg

 

[UkeNicky]

1. Go back to previous page
2. Scroll down
3. See the number of messages on the bottom right corner
4. gg

That's not always foolproof though.

 

[Trieste SP]

Remember that I posted this long ago that potentially dwells into Zelda's footstool metagame.

Dthrow -> HARD READ THE AIR DODGE -> footstool -> FW

If someone could pull that off I'll be their bottom to their top for a day. :^)

I remember this from the 3DS days. I've tried it out but it's just too unreliable. I did however managed to pull it off in loser quarters against a DK a couple months ago.

 

[Soul.]

That's not always foolproof though.

Either that or you just get lucky.