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[Berserker.]

Whoa, how is Ness creeping up your top 5 list?

I think I have it bracketed. My top 10 looks like this

1. Pikachu
2-3. Fox and Sheik
4-7. ZSS, Diddy, Sonic and Ness
8-9. Rosalina and Luigi
10. Falcon

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Hearing all this talk of all the top tiers having clear visible weaknesses makes me happy at how balanced this game is. <3

 

[Antonykun]

News from the Rosa MU: Villager wins very slightly (I think its a 50:50) btw
It's @ warionumbah2 's turn

 

[TTTTTsd]

All I know is from more experimentation I think Mewtwo is pretty alright. Def better than Doc, probably not solo main worthy though (well, no probably about that) but he's really fun. Probably finds himself in the center and that's such a cop out answer but I really can't put him elsewhere cause it just doesn't fit in my head. He's not AWFUL or bad but he's not like, GREAT or AMAZING either. He's just alright. But a LOT of fun.

 

[Shrokatii]

Apparently m2k said Ness is the best in a recent stream, but don't take my word for it

My top three is:

 

[HeroMystic]

I think I have it bracketed. My top 10 looks like this

1. Pikachu
2-3. Fox and Sheik
4-7. ZSS, Diddy, Sonic and Ness
8-9. Rosalina and Luigi
10. Falcon

This is fair. I think Rosie is higher on the list though.

Also, check back to my last post.

 

[Berserker.]

Whoa, how is Ness creeping up your top 5 list?

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@ Berserker. http://smashboards.com/threads/hous...ster-online-now.344694/page-266#post-19018437

Whoa. He's going Mewtwo. I wanna see this :O

Oh and noted.

 

[HeroMystic]

Apparently m2k said Ness is the best in a recent stream, but don't take my word for it

He thinks Ness is the best because he sucks vs Ness.

Whoa. He's going Mewtwo. I wanna see this :O

Oh and noted.

Yep, and now and I really hope I don't have to fight him in bracket because I'm gonna get caught off guard by a lot of stuff if I do. Trela is an amazing player.

 

[SBphiloz4]

My top 10 in this game after the patch:



(and are in the same tier as the former 3 but are not top 10 IMO)

 

[Macchiato]

News from the Rosa MU: Villager wins very slightly (I think its a 50:50) btw
It's @ warionumbah2 's turn

His fast nair is a problem for her.

I think I have it bracketed. My top 10 looks like this

1. Pikachu
2-3. Fox and Sheik
4-7. ZSS, Diddy, Sonic and Ness
8-9. Rosalina and Luigi
10. Falcon

 

[Berserker.]

He thinks Ness is the best because he sucks vs Ness.

This is why I love ya bro

Yep, and now and I really hope I don't have to fight him in bracket because I'm gonna get caught off guard by a lot of stuff if I do. Trela is an amazing player.

Can't wait to be proven wrong again. I won't be surprised if he can make Mewtwo work.

I should also tell you. The name search will happen (although it's fine :3 anyway)

 

[SBphiloz4]

I saw this list and I was starting to agree with all of it.

But then--

 

[Macchiato]

I saw this list and I was starting to agree with all of it.

But then--

I think her range it's a problem and she has good MUs against sheik, fox, and captain. She has great projectiles, a good recovery, a great damage output, combos, mobility, and kill power. She's EXTREMELY underrated.

 

[HeroMystic]

This is why I love ya bro

I aim to please.

I should also tell you. The name search will happen (although it's fine :3 anyway)

lol, I don't mind if he namesearches and just finds out I complimented him. His crew and mine had dinner at IHOP twice.

 

[Berserker.]

All this talk about mains remind me of something I actually remembered

Weren't you a Rosalina main before @ HeroMystic ?I remember seeing you make a comment about the mod making 999 match up threads in one day. I think you maimed her before but idk. Not sure if you mentioned this to us but I'm usually one to forget.

 

[HeroMystic]

All this talk about mains remind me of something I actually remembered

Weren't you a Rosalina main before @ HeroMystic ?I remember seeing you make a comment about the mod making 999 match up threads in one day. I think you maimed her before but idk. Not sure if you mentioned this to us but I'm usually one to forget.

I mained Rosalina during the 3DS days until my loyalty to Mario crept back up. That was basically right when the Wii U version came out.

 

[Trieste SP]

I think her range it's a problem and she has good MUs against sheik, fox, and captain. She has great projectiles, a good recovery, a great damage output, combos, mobility, and kill power. She's EXTREMELY underrated.

Yep, Wii Fit is a really good character and customs only make her better.

 

[berserker00]

Hmm... all these tier list posts are making me think of making my own. If you ask me, my tier list goes like this:

1-2 []
3-4 []
5-7 []
8-9 []
10 []

 

[Berserker.]

Hmm... all these tier list posts are making me think of making my own. If you ask me, my tier list goes like this:

1-2 []
3-4 []
5-7 []
8-9 []
10 []

There are 10 things wrong with this list. Hmmmmmmm.....

 

[Macchiato]

Lemme try bottom 10

 

[SpiralGalaxies]

Hello friends! How is everyone today?

 

[Trieste SP]

Ehh... I'll avoid from making a tier list especially this early and even after the recent patch. Need more tournament data.

I could make one for pre-patch but it will be useless.

I can tell you this though Diddy and Shiek definitely a lot closer when it comes to being #1. Perhaps they're both even. Dunno.

 

[Antonykun]

Lemme try bottom 10

IKE?! EXPAND DONG?!
NO SWORDSPIDER?!

 

[Trieste SP]

Lemme try bottom 10

Why isn't swordfighter here ?

The character is clearly bottom 10.

 

[HeroMystic]

Oh god we're doing this again.

Let me get my Lindsay gif ready.

Spoiler

 

[Macchiato]

Why isn't swordfighter here ?

The character is clearly bottom 10.

I don't count miis

IKE?! EXPAND DONG?!
NO SWORDSPIDER?!

ike is bad, DK is bad but less than Ike.

 

[warionumbah2]

Top tiers can eat a cactus, Sonic and Diddy are no longer obstacles although they still have the advantage against MK.

Sheik was never a threat to me(keyword is ME, since other MKs besides Katakiri think Sheik bodies MK), but the bair nerf was nice. Default tournaments looks like a dream but its a shame customs is a thing so Sonic is still a ***** as well as others.

I think her range it's a problem and she has good MUs against sheik, fox, and captain. She has great projectiles, a good recovery, a great damage output, combos, mobility, and kill power. She's EXTREMELY underrated.

I don't think WFT is good outside customs, but i do think you should embrace the lack of attention she gets. Not many people wiill know the MU so you have the upperhand already, sometimes i ignore advice on how to fight MK because im a jerk.

Smash players won't learn MUs that they consider pointless. Like who the **** uses Pikachu despite being top tier????

Ike is the best FE character...not a big accomplishment but hey.

 

[Berserker.]

Lindsay

Aw god. Why her of all the women you pick? T_T

Here's my flat tire list of pain:

S tier
1 []
2-3 []
4-8 []
9 []
10 []

A tier
11-15 []
16-19 []
20-23 []
24-25 []

B tier
26-28 []
29-33 []
34-38 []

C tier
39-43 []
44-48 []

D tier
49-52 []

All bracketed and stuff. Only Pikachu, Luigi, and Falcon are at their own spot. So if you're like, "PEACH OVER MEGA MAN!?" then no. It's not like that. It means they're probably somewhere around that spot. It's up to you to jumble it up.

 

[SpiralGalaxies]

Why is Pikachu god again?

 

[Baskerville]

Beowulf looks amazing, and I don't even play Skullgirls.

 

[Macchiato]

Top tiers can eat a cactus, Sonic and Diddy are no longer obstacles although they still have the advantage against MK.

Sheik was never a threat to me(keyword is ME, since other MKs besides Katakiri think Sheik bodies MK), but the bair nerf was nice. Default tournaments looks like a dream but its a shame customs is a thing so Sonic is still a ***** as well as others.



I don't think WFT is good outside customs, but i do think you should embrace the lack of attention she gets. Not many people wiill know the MU so you have the upperhand already, sometimes i ignore advice on how to fight MK because im a jerk.

Smash players won't learn MUs that they consider pointless. Like who the **** uses Pikachu despite being top tier????

Ike is the best FE character...not a big accomplishment but hey.

Honestly the only way to limit Wii fit is to have Kirby jiggs or GnW's crouch. The only problem she has is short people. Against top tiers she does really well and before shiek Wii fit was 55-45 WFT and now sheik is nerfed. I really think that default she has lots of potential. Her movement is great. She can slide really far after a RTAC. She can use momentum from her crawl to do like a reverse DACUS. I think the reason people think Wii fit is bad because no one ****ing uses her like how people now think that MK is good just because of one match. Her range isn't a problem at all. It's just learning all her hitboxes and adapting to them.

 

[HeroMystic]

Why is Pikachu god again?

Super short, QA being a god-tier special, good aerials, strong footsies (D-tilt), great mobility and excellent burst movement.

Only weaknesses are his light weight and trouble getting kills, and having no kill throws so shielding at kill percents is a good option.

Pikachu was also nerfed this patch though.

 

[warionumbah2]

like how people now think that MK is good just because of one match. .

That pissed me off i gotta admit, it took MK to fight supreme lord ZeRo, Grand Finals and take a game for people to look at his direction. But then back to the shadows he goes, typical batman stuff(typical Smash player stuff actually).

 

[Baskerville]

Super short, QA being a god-tier special, good aerials, strong footsies (D-tilt), great mobility and excellent burst movement.

Only weaknesses are his light weight and trouble getting kills, and having no kill throws so shielding at kill percents is a good option.

Pikachu was also nerfed this patch though.

Pikachu was nerfed? What did they change with him?

 

[Nu~]

Pac-Man #20

Seems alright. But please explain to me why wario is that high.

 

[Antonykun]

You know I actually made a Spider Mii and made the mii into a Swordfighter :3

 

[SpiralGalaxies]

@ HeroMystic I see. But wouldn't S-tier mean broken Diddy esqe? I'm not really seeing Pika as broken.

But if he is really that good than I'm okay with it. Better Pika over Diddy.

 

[HeroMystic]

Pikachu was nerfed? What did they change with him?

Pre-patch, Pikachu had the best ledge trumping in the game. He was only stuck on the ledge for 6 frames (that's half of what it usually is), so not only could he guarantee B-air hits that could potentially kill, but he was also extremely safe on the ledge because no one could punish him.

Post-patch, Pikachu's ledgesnapping was normalized and now he can be pressured on the ledge and no longer has a guaranteed B-air hits.

@ HeroMystic I see. But wouldn't S-tier mean broken Diddy esqe? I'm not really seeing Pika as broken.

But if he is really that good than I'm okay with it. Better Pika over Diddy.

Berserker has the top 10 in S-tier. That said, I don't agree with Pikachu having his own row.

 

[evmaxy54]

Record Store Day was today so I got on my shopping spree mood & got all this:

Spoiler

Shame I couldn't get Biffy Clyro - Puzzle but aww well :3

 

[Macchiato]

That pissed me off i gotta admit, it took MK to fight supreme lord ZeRo, Grand Finals and take a game for people to look at his direction. But then back to the shadows he goes, typical batman stuff.

Like we do have an amazing rep and its chrisspy but I think he's taking a break maybe because of a family problem or something. He needs exposure. I think MK is somewhere from 15-25.
https://youtu.be/GIAwv67Kxhc

Aw god. Why her of all the women you pick? T_T

Here's my flat tire list of pain:

S tier
1 []
2-3 []
4-8 []
9 []
10 []

A tier
11-15 []
16-19 []
20-23 []
24-25 []

B tier
26-28 []
29-33 []
34-38 []

C tier
39-43 []
44-48 []

D tier
49-52 []

S tier
1 []
2-3 []
4-8 []
9 []
10 []

A tier
11-15 []
16-19 []
20-23 []
24-25 []

B tier
26-28 []
29-33 []
34-38 []

C tier
39-43 []
44-48 []

D tier
49 []