Your Hopes and Dreams DLC

[ralph458]

Ice climbers can't come back till the next smash cause 3DS. Sorry

Under the time constraints, yes. But all the ice climbers need (im guessing as i haven't played melee or brawl) is the same move delayed. They could do it for Rosalina and Luma, and whilst Luma is a puppet, they do need different animations and properties, and Nana is just a delayed Popo. Besides, Sakurai has a very long time to implement characters.

 

[The Jiggernaut]

Characters:
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia)
Paper Mario (Paper Mario)
Ice Climbers (Ice Climbers)
Krystal (Star Fox Adventures)
Mecha Fiora (Xenoblade)
Waddle Dee (Kirby)

Returning Stages:
Saffron City
Mushroom Kingdom II
Fourside
Pirate Ship
Frigate Orpheon
Summit

New Stages:
Urchin Underpass (Splatoon)
Rougeport/Flipside (Paper Mario)
Beach of the Fallen Arm (Xenoblade)
Planet Sauria (Star Fox Adventures)
Tower of Salvation (Tales of Symphonia)

Mii Costumes:
Micaiah
Elincia
Colette Brunel
Fiora (Normal)
Pokemon Trainer(various)
Bomberman
Aeron (Pandora's Tower)
Zael (The Last Story)

Assist:
Lana (Hyrule Warriors)
Vivian (Paper Mario Thousand Year Door)
Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
Cap'n Cuttlefish (Splatoon)
Medii (Wind Waker)
Melia (Xenoblade)
Lanky Kong (Donkey Kong 64)
Territorial Oak (Earthbound)

 

[Troykv]

Characters:
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia)
Paper Mario (Paper Mario)
Ice Climbers (Ice Climbers)
Krystal (Star Fox Adventures)
Mecha Fiora (Xenoblade)

Returning Stages:
Saffron City
Mushroom Kingdom II
Fourside
Pirate Ship
Frigate Orpheon
Summit

New Stages:
Urchin Underpass (Splatoon)
Rougeport/Flipside (Paper Mario)
Beach of the Fallen Arm (Xenoblade)
Planet Sauria (Star Fox Adventures)
Tower of Salvation (Tales of Symphonia)

Mii Costumes:
Micaiah
Elincia
Colette Brunel
Fiora (Normal)
Pokemon Trainer(various)
Bomberman

Assist:
Lana (Hyrule Warriors)
Vivian (Paper Mario Thousand Year Door)
Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
Cap'n Cuttlefish (Splatoon)
Medii (Wind Waker)
Melia (Xenoblade)
Lanky Kong (Donkey Kong 64)

You're the only person in this thread that mentions Micaiah in some way owo...

PD: I find a little bit curious that you have a Bandana Dee Avatar but doesn't appears in anyway in your dreams.

 

[ralph458]

Characters

• Rayman
• Cackletta/Fawful (Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga)
• Lana/Impa/Cia (Hyrule Warriors)
• All Veterans (Even Pichu)
• NiGHTS
• King K. Rool/Dixie Kong/Cranky Kong
• Waluigi
• King Of Hyrule, Zelda and Link (CDi) (I'll explain this one in the end)
• Bandanna Dee/Adeline
• A Rivals of Aether Rep (If Nintendo puts it on the Wii U/3DS
• Bowser's Troops (An explanation with a lot of detail here http://smashboards.com/threads/dlc-character-discussion-thread.410811/page-131#post-20186494)

Stages

• Valley Of Seers (Hyrule Warriors)
• Bean Bean Kingdom (Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga)
• Any Rayman Legends Level
• Any NiGHTS Level
• A Stage Based on Mario 64 similar to castle siege
• A Rivals of Aether Stage
• K. Rool's Ship (DKC2)
• Aqua Star (Kirby 64)
• Shadow Moses Island
• Pirate Ship

Time to explain the "character". The King, Zelda and Link. All their attacks will be terribly edited YouTube Poops. Their Specials will use the "abilities" of the three in very ******** ways. Their Taunts will be some of their "greatest lines" (Mah Boy, I could eat an octorok, I'm dying good) Their Final Smash will be The king Holding open the Victims Eyes while Link and Zelda put on a random YouTube poop, like the Robot Chicken opening. No I don't actually want this, but it would be hilarious.

 

[ErenJager]

Modes

• A Real Classic Mode
• Adventure Mode (Melee Style)
• Break The Targets
• Board The Platforms
• Online Stock Matches

Characters

• Wolf
• Ice Climbers
• Klonoa (Namco's Second Rep)
• NiGHTS or Tails (Sega's Second Rep)

Alternative Costumes

• Armored Mewtwo
• Masked Lucina
• Shiny Pokemon
• White Yoshi
• Orange Yoshi
• Super Kong Donkey Kong
• Super Kong Diddy Kong
• Villager slot dedicated to resemble your villager's appearance from save data on your 3DS. (Cross platform functionality)
• Robin slot dedicated to resemble your avatar's appearance from save data on your 3DS. (Cross platform functionality)

Alph Treatment

• Dark Link
• Daisy
• Blood Falcon

Assist Trophies

• Isaac
• Ray MK
• Proto Man
• Knuckles
• Ms. Pacman
• Blanka
• Guntz

Stages

• Sector Z or Corneria
• Saffron City
• Mushroom Kingdom (N64)
• Rainbow Cruise
• Pokemon Stadium (Melee)
• Jungle Japes
• Kongo Jungle
• Great Bay
• Poke Float
• Big Blue
• Mute City

Mii Costumes

• Tharja
• Felicia
• Morrigan

 

[The Jiggernaut]

You're the only person in this thread that mentions Micaiah in some way owo...

PD: I find a little bit curious that you have a Bandana Dee Avatar but doesn't appears in anyway in your dreams.

I didn't even notice that he wasn't there! Changing that now D: Also I appreciate Micaiah's character, I do enjoy that fire emblem is represented character wise but I don't feel it is in other aspects. I wish that it had more variety in its stages/assist trophies/mii costumes. Though I must say I was extraordinarily happy to see a Black Knight costume.

 

[DOY1980]

Some more characters:

Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club part 2)
Another Punch Out rep (Super Macho Man, King Hippo, Great Tiger, Vodka Drunkenski, just to name a few)
Shanoa (Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia)
Sypha (Castlevania 3)
Simon Belmont
Dante (Devil May Cry. He appeared in Project X Zone, so he's got history with Nintendo now)
Another Street Fighter rep (like Chun Li, Cammy or Zangief)
Morrigan (DarkStalkers)
Arthur (Ghosts'n Goblins)
King K Rool
Dixie Kong
Kos-Mos (Xenosaga)
Toad
Annie (Custom Robo 2)

 

[Sünta]

Phoenix Wright because that would be hype

 

[Mario123311]

Giana and Inkling pretty much. Slime too considering he's the ONLY Square Enix rep I find not boring or generic.

 

[Danny of AD 1]

Roy Lucas and ryu confirmed
Ice climbers
Pichu
Young link
Pokemon trainer
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Snake
Wolf
Banjo kazooie
3d mr game and watch
Earthbound beginnings protagonist ninten
Soul caliber 2 link
Roy's father
Waluigi
Knuckle Joe
Knuckles
The game developer
Aoe2 soldier
Frogger
Erwin from pacman world 3

 

[GonzaGears]

Characters:

Most wanted:

Dark Matter (Kirby Series)
Geno (Mario Series)
Isaac (Golden Sun)

Maybe:

Porky Minch (Mother Series)
Fawful (Mario Series)

Please don't get in:

Shrek
Any DBZ character
Any FNAF character
Steve (Minecraft)
Anyone else that has nothing to do with Nintendo

Music:

A good Zero Two remix
Beware the Forest Mushrooms (Maybe only for Geno reveal music)
More Mother series music

 

[TGT | Ghosty]

Squirtle....

 

[Geno Boost]

Characters:
Geno
Isaac
Wolf
King k. Rool
Ninten
Alex Kidd (next SEGA rep)
Ice climbers

Stages:

Forest maze
Golden sun stage
Alex Kidd stage (the streets of shinobi or miracle world stage)
Mother 2 final boss stage (too much spoilers lol)
Kruiser helicopter (or whatever it's called)
Summit
Pokefloats
R.O.B. Stage
Mario bros stage
Dr. Mario stage
Mario paint stage
Any Virtual boy game stage

Mii costumes:
Alex Kidd brawler (if not playable)
Anyone from warioware
Anyone from Pokemon
Shovel knight swordmen (since he got amiibo)
Anyone from Sonic
Etika

 

[RyuIsDio]

Roy Lucas and ryu confirmed
Ice climbers
Pichu
Young link
Pokemon trainer
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Snake
Wolf
Banjo kazooie
3d mr game and watch
Earthbound beginnings protagonist ninten
Soul caliber 2 link
Roy's father
Waluigi
Knuckle Joe
Knuckles
The game developer
Aoe2 soldier
Frogger
Erwin from pacman world 3

Let's see..No, no, no, no, no, never, no no no no nonononnonononono

 

[Gimmick]

Characters...

• Sub-Zero
• Issac
• Shovel Knight
• Rayman
• Jill Valentine

 

[JamietheAuraUser]

Characters...

• Sub-Zero
• Issac
• Shovel Knight
• Rayman
• Jill Valentine

I don't think I've ever met anyone named Isaac who actually has their name spelled with two "S"s instead of two "A"s, so why does everyone spell Isaac's name wrong?

 

[Gimmick]

I don't think I've ever met anyone named Isaac who actually has their name spelled with two "S"s instead of two "A"s, so why does everyone spell Isaac's name wrong?

My cousins is like that.

 

[JamietheAuraUser]

My cousins is like that.

Well. Learn something new every day I guess. I apologize for my outburst, then.

 

[SpiritofSpeed]

Characters:
Wolf
Snake
Banjo & Kazooie
Shantae
Tails
Inklings
Rayman
King K. Rool
Spyro

Stages:
Spear Pillar
Poke Floats
Shadow Moses Island
Mushroom Kingdom (Melee)
New Pork City
Rainbow Cruise
Pokemon Stadium (Melee)
WarioWare Inc.

 

[Sage of Ice]

Characters:

• Krystal
• Wolf
• Tetra
• Ravio
• Classic Ridley (Hey, you said dreams)
• Agumon
• Amaterasu

Stages:

• Fourside
• Moonside
• Castelia City
• Krazoa Palace

(all for the wii u version 'cause i could give a frick about the 3DS one)

Music:

• Hyrule Castle (for Hyrule Castle 64)
• Lorule Castle (for Hyrule Castle 64)
• Vs. Dragon Boss (Ocarina of Time) (for Hyrule Castle 64)
• Dancing Dragon Dungeon (for Temple)
• Stone Tower Temple (for Temple)
• Miniboss (Wind Waker) (for Pirate Ship)
• Vs. Ancient Pokemon (for Castelia City)
• Gen. 5 Gym Leader battle (work in the part where they're down to their last Pokemon because that song is incredible) (for Castelia City)
• Stargazer Colosseum (for Castelia City)
• Fourside (for Fourside obviously)
• Fourside (original version) (for Fourside)
• Porky Means Business (for Moonside)
• Splatoon Final Boss (Squid Sisters) (for Final Destination)
• Vs. Ganondorf (Wind Waker) (for Final Destination)
• Vs. Mysterial (Pokemon Battle Revolution) (for Final Destination)
• Vs. Bowser (Super Mario 64) (for Final Destination)

Costumes/Colors

• Dry Bowser
• Skyward Sword Zelda
• Shiny Charizard
• Lucario's white color from Brawl
• Adventures and Assault versions of Krystal
• Young Link for Toon Link
• Raichu for Pikachu

thought up some new stuff 'cause i couldn't sleep. also clarified what stages all the new music would go to. it's all in bold

 

[praline]

Bomberman and Isaac as playable characters would be boss af

 

[MrGame&Rock]

With Pirate ship now being in Smash Wii U, it makes me really, really, REALLY want Yoshi's Island from Brawl and SSB3DS to be in SSB for Wii U

 

[flushinrush]

I want the characters to stop being soo bland and make it a combination of the mario franchise mixed with a bundle of anime like japanese themed characters (also from nintendo franchise of course) like how about the classic mischief maker?

 

[Rexcalibr]

The Inkling Boy and Girl (as pallet swaps) with a Splatoon themed stage. It's going to be years until we get another Smash game and Splatoon is hot now, so it would be best for them to be DLC in the next release.

 

[AfroGamerNinja]

The Inklings and Guile. Why for the latter? Because his theme goes with everything.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

I really, really want to see Knuckles the Echidna.

 

[Arcturian]

There's already a ton of Mario reps, but I'd love to see E. Gadd.

 

[splat]

Characters:
BOTH Wolf O'Donnell
BOTH Dixie Kong
BOTH Bomberman

Stages:
BOTH Bowser's Castle
BOTH Pokefloats 2
WIIU Jungle Japes Melee
WIIU Yoshi's Island Brawl
WIIU Green Greens Melee
WIIU Corneria Melee
3DS Norfair Brawl
3DS Pirate Ship Brawl

Mii costumes:
BOTH Red (Pokémon)
BOTH Isaac (Golden Sun)
BOTH Andy (Advance Wars)
BOTH Impa (Legend of Zelda)

 

[Dagon97]

Wolf
Krystal
Sora
ICs (with Smash 4 grab mechanics = not as broken ICs)
Squirtle
Bomberman
Akuma

 

[CometX-ing]

Hearing the results for the Smash Ballot.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

Modes
All 3 Mode: Stock, Time and Coin Match Combined: It's just a standard Coin Match with an added Stock limit.
Stage Hazards On/Off Button (Already programmed into the Wii U with 8-Player Smash )
Special Smash on the 3DS (Already programmed into the 3DS with Smash Run)
Break the Targets on both the 3DS and Wii U. (Already programmed into of Smash Run)
Adventure Mode on the Wii U
Difficulty Settings Option for Smash Run (90% of what makes Smash Run unfun is the unfairly balanced enemies)
Stage Builder on the 3DS (even if it's just Brawl's)

Returning Characters
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Wolf
Ice Climbers (Whether it be both or just one)
Snake (once Konami finds the mind it's lost)
(then out of Fairness)
Young Link (with Fierce Deity Link as his Final Smash)
Pichu

Newcomers
Chorus Kids (Rhythm Heaven)
Isaac from Golden Sun
Inkling from Splatoon
King K Rool from Donkey Kong Country
Dixie Kong also from Donkey Kong Country
Sceptile from Pokemon (if Squirtle and Ivysaur can't come back (We're still missing a Grass Type starter)
Wonder Red
Jill from Drill Dozer
Ray from Custom Robo
Tempo from HarmoKnight
Ridley (I just want Sakurai to do it so everyone can shut up about him)
Shantae (I'm satisfied with 3rd party characters after Sonic, Mega Man, PacMan and Ryu, but if I had to choose, Add your hopes and dreams characters here. (I don't mind as long as the non-clone vets come back as well somehow)

Mii Costumes
Plumber Overalls
Princess Dress
Pokemon Trainer Outfits for all 6 Gens
E Gadd Labcoat for Gunner
Warrior Armor from Kid Icarus Uprising's multiplayer

Returning Stages
Fountain of Dreams
Shadow Moses Island (returning with Snake)
Great Bay (in honor of Majoras Mask 3D)

New Stages Wii U
Infinite Glacier (Ice Climber stage with mechanics of Icicle Mountain and aesthetic of The Summit)
Inkopolis (or any Splatoon battle field)

New Stages 3DS
Ice Climber (a recreation of the 8-bit game similar in authenticity to Balloon Fight and Duck Hunt)
Golden Sun Dark Dawn stage

Trophies
Doctor Hector from Stack Up and Gyromite
Mr. A.R. from the 3DS' AR games

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

Let's see..No, no, no, no, no, never, no no no no nonononnonononono

Dude don't squash the kid's hopes and dreams like that, this isn't that kind of thread.

 

[Astorgh]

I hope Snake makes it back. But well, maybe Bomberman deserves an opportunity.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

I hope Snake makes it back. But well, maybe Bomberman deserves an opportunity.

Konami has lost it's mind, I'm 200% sure Konami's the reason Snake wasn't Already in the retail version.
Bomberman. Gosh, he was the 3rd fan candidate for Brawl after Pac Man and Mega Man.
Now with the ballot I hear everyone say King K Rool, Inklings, Isaac, Shantae and Shovel Knight consistently,
I was expecting Ray Man and Bomberman at the top of everyone's lists behind Ridley.

 

[MrGame&Rock]

Modes
Stage Hazards On/Off Button (Already programmed into the Wii U with 8-Player Smash )

Yes but I think it should go further than what's already available in 8-player smash. Let's call these modes for stages "Alpha Mode" and assume that all the 8-player stages assume their 8-player form. Then we'll add...
FD: Keeps its background from when the match starts and doesn't change it
Port Town Aero Drive: Remove all racers, add edges to the traveling portion, remove all other hitboxes except for the track while the stage is moving
Mushroom Kingdom U: Remove Nabbit, the spiky urchin, and the icicles
Halberd: Remove the claw
Skyloft: Remove the building hitboxes
Wii Fit Studio and Colosseum: Remove the walkoffs. They can just be ledges or there can be lava to keep the bottom boundary off-limits, just remove the walk-offs
Super Mario Maker: Only have one, competitive-friendly layout
Jungle Hijinks: Remove the Background

If we do all of that plus fix the boundaries on some stages (delfino while transitioning, revert DL back to its Melee boundaries) then I will be a happy boy

 

[JamietheAuraUser]

Yes but I think it should go further than what's already available in 8-player smash. Let's call these modes for stages "Alpha Mode" and assume that all the 8-player stages assume their 8-player form. Then we'll add...
FD: Keeps its background from when the match starts and doesn't change it
Port Town Aero Drive: Remove all racers, add edges to the traveling portion, remove all other hitboxes except for the track while the stage is moving
Mushroom Kingdom U: Remove Nabbit, the spiky urchin, and the icicles
Halberd: Remove the claw
Skyloft: Remove the building hitboxes
Wii Fit Studio and Colosseum: Remove the walkoffs. They can just be ledges or there can be lava to keep the bottom boundary off-limits, just remove the walk-offs
Super Mario Maker: Only have one, competitive-friendly layout
Jungle Hijinks: Remove the Background

If we do all of that plus fix the boundaries on some stages (delfino while transitioning, revert DL back to its Melee boundaries) then I will be a happy boy

I don't care about the icicles on Mushroom Kingdom U, but Nabbit has got to go. And the spiky urchin needs some kind of tell for where it's going to pop up, I feel.

Also, you missed one. There's a hitbox on the mountainside during part of Pilotwings lol. That said, i don't think hitboxes like those are actually abusive as they aren't likely to affect normal gameplay and if a player gets hit by them in competitive play, it's on them for not knowing about those hitboxes or a good play on their opponent's part for launching/juggling them into a location where they get hit by those hitboxes.

 

[MrGame&Rock]

I don't care about the icicles on Mushroom Kingdom U, but Nabbit has got to go. And the spiky urchin needs some kind of tell for where it's going to pop up, I feel.

Also, you missed one. There's a hitbox on the mountainside during part of Pilotwings lol. That said, i don't think hitboxes like those are actually abusive as they aren't likely to affect normal gameplay and if a player gets hit by them in competitive play, it's on them for not knowing about those hitboxes or a good play on their opponent's part for launching/juggling them into a location where they get hit by those hitboxes.

The Icicles are a bit annoying to me, and I'm relatively lenient about stages. I want MKU to be a tournament stage, and for that I think it would have the best chances if the icicles left. That's just my rationale.

FORGOT PILOTWINGS! I'd actually just remove the red biplane and make the stage just the yellow monoplane, or a tilting FD kinda stage. The red biplane really annoys me because of its campable areas, and yes, the mountainside hitbox needs to go. The idea is to maximize the amount of potentially legal competitive stages, while keeping the originals for more friendly play.

 

[ArcanaXIII]

I just wanna see Isaac and Saki Amamiya(RIP the dream).

 

[Mobes]

Hearing the results for the Smash Ballot.

I wonder if we'll actually know about these characters, and therefore the Ballot results, before long.. or if we'll have to wait until they're just about ready?

 

[JamietheAuraUser]

The Icicles are a bit annoying to me, and I'm relatively lenient about stages. I want MKU to be a tournament stage, and for that I think it would have the best chances if the icicles left. That's just my rationale.

FORGOT PILOTWINGS! I'd actually just remove the red biplane and make the stage just the yellow monoplane, or a tilting FD kinda stage. The red biplane really annoys me because of its campable areas, and yes, the mountainside hitbox needs to go. The idea is to maximize the amount of potentially legal competitive stages, while keeping the originals for more friendly play.

Remember when Mute City was tournament-legal in Melee? Or when Rainbow Cruise and Luigi's Mansion were tournament-legal in Brawl? Yeah, that was a thing. I seriously think that all Mushroom Kingdom U needs is for Nabbit to disappear and for other hazards to have more obvious tells when and where they're going to hit. Of course, that would require the Smash community to stop being so ridiculously conservative about stage lists.

Edit: I think the Mute City ban in Melee happened when Armada's Peach destroyed Mang0's Fox on that stage, or something equally silly. Two things: One, if you're playing a space animal, don't let your opponent take you to Mute City; two, if your opponent is playing Peach, don't let them take you to Mute City. And if both of those things are true, then for the love of Arceus don't let your opponent take you to Mute City! That's one of those stages that you should really just strike right away in such a scenario.