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I use d-tilt for kills. The setup I use is bomb Z-Drop -> d-tilt for edge guards if they are coming from underneath. The bomb pops them up for a d-tilt. Most people won't see it coming the first time so its hard to react to at first. Makes for easy surrpise kills if they are unfamiliar with YL.
Okay, so I know you use YL for the Jiggs/Peach matchup... Do you use it for IC's as well? Because if so how on earth do you do that? Also I probably shouldn't grab against a jiggs cause I will get ****ed if I whiff it correct? Not that I am trying to copy you, I just think using YL instead of Fox for these matchups is way more badass than Fox could ever be. Haha.
Hahaha, I know I was just kidding about the Mario mains... A Rookie is too sick though.
There is no shame in copying Axe, copying top players until you develope your own style is how you get good.
Seriously? But IC's could run circles around Link I thought.... How so?
My set with stro from awhile back sums it up pretty well
Trust me. No one in those threads probably have no idea what their talking about when it comes to Young Link. The things you've read on there are probably not applicable/doesn't matter.
No offense, but I feel like you just had no matchup knowledge in the match.... You were like a deer in headlights in some instances. Don't get me wrong Stro is a great Link so idk.
I have more recent matches with him, but this is the only recorded set. trust me, its not a good mu.
This is a tough one. Bigger stages mean more room to run around and take advantage of his speed, but it also means killing them is a lot harder. Personally, I like running around so I would probably ban FoD against Peach because of how well she can control space there and the ceiling is higher compared to Yoshi's. I'm not sure what I'd ban against a Puff though.
Not trying to deter you away from an awesome character but using Fox would probably be way easier.
Ban Yoshi's, try to go to FD (Ganon's worst stage by far). I think Dreamland is also good because you're most likely going to be killing off the sides and ledgeguarding Ganon's bad recovery and you get to live longer. The matchup seems doable, Ganon, can't really handle projectiles if you have enough space.
No. Any good Falco completely runs over YL. The matchup is terrible. Just because Falco's recovery sucks means nothing. His recovery sucks against Sheik and Marth yet Falco still beats them. YL isn't as good as either of those at edge guarding and his neutral game vs Falco is waaaaay worse than marth or sheiks neutral. Hell, even Pikachu does way better against Falco than YL, which is sad because Pikachu gets bopped.
I don't think you understand how bad Ganon is on FD. Ganon on FD is way worse than YL on FD. YS is actually a good stage for Ganon too.
I do, contact me if interested.
I honestly think Young Link counters Peach fairly hard (or I just have a really bad Peach in my friendcircle) Anyhow, as for habits, avoid becoming predictable with your spam game, mixing it up is really important.
Will look out for that.
I still stand by the matchup being bad. It's close to 30-70 for YL. At best it's 40-60. I can't really take you seriously when you say YL has a better neutral game than Falco. Falco/Fox have the best neutrals in the game.
I usually only do it if I accidently air dodge and the opponent thinks it's a free punish then I pull out the hookshot lol.
I was being pretty generous when I said 40-60. It's definitely closer to 30-70. Regardless, you shouldn't really consider 40-60 or 30-70 to be an amazing match-up even if one character is drastically lower on the tier list than the other. A bad match-up is still a bad match-up.
Really just sounds like you don't know how to play the match up personally. I wouldn't put Falco as one of YL's top 3 worst. When my opponent chooses Falco, you'll see the biggest grin come across my face cause I'm about to have some fun.
Not sure how you concluded that I don't know how to play the match-up. Just because I said Falco is a bad match-up does not mean I don't know how to play it. You're trying to shut down my argument by spontaneously concluding I don't know the match-up, which is a fallacy.
Yeah Marth is tough but you definitely have more tools against him than Falco. I personally understand how to fight Marth well because I consistently play the best Marth in my area. I feel like Marth doesn't have as many answers for projectiles like Falco does. And Falco's punish game on YL is way more devastating. When I play Marth, I tend to play as projectile heavy as possible during early percents and when he gets to like 40% or so that's when you can start going in and actually start comboing Marth. I really like Marth's weight for Young Link as well and edge-guarding him is fun for me lol.
The Falcon Young Link match-up is like the most straight forward match-up IMO for people who never play against YL (besides Sheik). I can beat some people who main Fox and then they just switch to Falcon and beat me. One reason has to do with what downbfordays said. Axe, you're really good at understanding what's safe on shield and what's not; every time I get in a close range tussle with a Falcon I end up getting grabbed and punished. Also Falcon stays on top of YL really well. Generally I lack Falcon experience as well because there are no great Falcon mains in my immediate area.
