Metatitan
Smash Master
So recently A LOT of yoshi mains have either decided to take a break from him to improve better other characters, or have just left him entirely. Not to mention a lot of people don't know exactly why yoshi is bad and therefore pin him down as bad for the wrong reasons. He's bad, we know that, but he's bad for specific reasons. Yoshi NEEDS a strong secondary for him to be tourny viable, and even then the secondary has a way of becoming the main (as in me with peach). Here are the reasons that I think yoshi is a bad character:
1. Priority Issues
Yoshi has pretty bad priority, but so what so does Olimar. However, yoshi doesn't have nearly as much range as olimar, and olimar has other attributes that make simply make him a good character.
2. A lot of bad moves
One thing I noticed about yoshi that high (and even middle) tiered characters don't have are a ton of bad moves. With peach I can only think of two bad moves, down tilt and toad, and even then those moves aren't terrible. Yoshi has A LOT of bad moves, including Fair, Dair, down smash, egg roll, dash attack and others. And even then, yoshi's "good" moves are only considered decent when comparing to other characters. The only move I can think of that he has that's outright fantastic is egg lay. Bad moves limit yoshi's options.
3, Killing Issues
Yoshi has HUGE issues with landing the KO move. People usually live to around 150% before yoshi lands in the needed Uair or Usmash. And the problem is is that this problem isn't going to go away. Yoshi doesn't have an extremely powerful KO move that's hard to land, f smash isn't that strong. Peach has KOing issues, but with all the research going into her up smash currently, her metagame is advancing and she may start killing a lot earlier. Yoshi simply doesn't have that type of killing potential.
4. Lack of OoS
Jumping out of shield really isn't the issue, yoshi's shield is nice in the fact that it's hard to pierce. But the main issue is the amount of frames it takes to drop. Therefore we have to fake OoS, and even then it's a game of Russian Roulette depending if we time it right or not.
5. Lackluster Camp Game
At the start of brawl, yoshi had a fantastic camp game. And on wifi it's still fantastic because people can't get around it. But offline, yoshi's camp game is getting easier and easier to get around. For a game based so heavily on camping, that isn't good.
These are just reasons that I think yoshi is a low tier character, for any who disagree PLEASE speak up, I'd love to hear points I missed or points I made that are false.
1. Priority Issues
Yoshi has pretty bad priority, but so what so does Olimar. However, yoshi doesn't have nearly as much range as olimar, and olimar has other attributes that make simply make him a good character.
2. A lot of bad moves
One thing I noticed about yoshi that high (and even middle) tiered characters don't have are a ton of bad moves. With peach I can only think of two bad moves, down tilt and toad, and even then those moves aren't terrible. Yoshi has A LOT of bad moves, including Fair, Dair, down smash, egg roll, dash attack and others. And even then, yoshi's "good" moves are only considered decent when comparing to other characters. The only move I can think of that he has that's outright fantastic is egg lay. Bad moves limit yoshi's options.
3, Killing Issues
Yoshi has HUGE issues with landing the KO move. People usually live to around 150% before yoshi lands in the needed Uair or Usmash. And the problem is is that this problem isn't going to go away. Yoshi doesn't have an extremely powerful KO move that's hard to land, f smash isn't that strong. Peach has KOing issues, but with all the research going into her up smash currently, her metagame is advancing and she may start killing a lot earlier. Yoshi simply doesn't have that type of killing potential.
4. Lack of OoS
Jumping out of shield really isn't the issue, yoshi's shield is nice in the fact that it's hard to pierce. But the main issue is the amount of frames it takes to drop. Therefore we have to fake OoS, and even then it's a game of Russian Roulette depending if we time it right or not.
5. Lackluster Camp Game
At the start of brawl, yoshi had a fantastic camp game. And on wifi it's still fantastic because people can't get around it. But offline, yoshi's camp game is getting easier and easier to get around. For a game based so heavily on camping, that isn't good.
These are just reasons that I think yoshi is a low tier character, for any who disagree PLEASE speak up, I'd love to hear points I missed or points I made that are false.