gallax
Smash Hero
Yoshi
General Discussion
Yoshi...the little green monster. Bigger than pika and much harder to kill. Although yoshi's best recovery move is his egg toss, his two jumps more than make up for it. With SA frames his jumps can be hard to punish. And being a fairlyheavy character it can be had to kill. But, if you don't know it, yoshi has a blind spot and if get into it you will have gained the adv in the matchup.
Pika's Advantages
1. Small
2. Speedy
3. Has lots of stamina
4. Girls love us more than yoshi
5. Thunder
Pika's Disadvantages
1. Cg'able
2. Easy to kill
3. Egg>tjolt
Strategy for Winning
From the Eyes of Yoshi
The very first thing to do is read the post below this Character Matchup. It is very detailed and informative. From there I would read the rest of the posts in this thread. They are all very informative. What I am going to do in this matchup is point out some of the most important facts that you may not eem to be important and that you need to know.
Yoshi's Blind Spot
The first and very most important thing to remember in this matchup is that yoshi can outcamp us. Do not get into camp wars with yoshi. His jab cancels out our tjolt and the egg comes out faster and can be angled anywhere above yoshi, except for one spot. This one spot is commonly referred to as his blind spot. This is where you need to attack yoshi.
This spot is at a 45 degree angle above yoshi's eyes. Get there and use your tjolt. You are going to need to jup to get into position, but it shouldn't matter. No matter what yoshi you are playing, you should be attacking from this angle. (This isn't to say you can't try other means of approach. What im saying is that if you want to camp yoshi in any way or force an approach from yoshi or just even pressure yoshi this is one of your best options.)
If you want to camp yoshi then this is the spot you need to get in and abuse. If the yoshi gets under you then DI away and/or qac away and start it over again. You want to watch the yoshi carefully since they can surprise you by doing a hitting you with a running usmash or getting a nair off when you are coming down from the tjolt. You want to make sure that by the time you are falling you have ample time to manuever around justin case the tjolt misses.
Anotherwards tjolt+run away, repeat.
Yoshi's Combo Breaker
Yoshi may seem to be a character in which it would be easy to combo but this is not the case. Yoshi's jab and nair comes out faster than anything we have and with more priority so it will win. When you are close to yoshi on the ground and there is a lot of prussure to get the first move off you can expect a jab from yoshi. If you get a ff fair on yoshi a jab can ruin it for you so that you cannot get a grab or dsmash in.
The same applies to yoshi's nair. If we dthrow and try to combo with an uair or nair we will get hit by a nair. Best thing to do is either bait it or, MY FAVORITE wAY, to usmash and then chase yoshi. Always trying to stay under yoshi to punish with a bair or predict where they are going to land to get a grab when they airdodge into the ground.
Yoshi's Killing Potential
Yoshi has 3 main kill moves. You can't really count the fair as a kill move, but it can spike you if you are not careful. These 3 moves are his fsmash/usmash/uair. The one that will probably be used to kill you the most is his uair. most of the time the fsmash is staled and the usmash also. But, sometimes they will be fresh. This happens when you kill the yoshiand they have a new life with fresh attacks. With the usmash i would be wary when when you get around 115%. The fsmash is used often and it's gonna be staled. But, yoshi's will use it when you are near the edge and still try to kill you. Heck, they will use it no matter what. Haha.
The uair is what you need to worry about the most. I would worry about it killing at around 85% just in case you are caught making a button input and it leading to bad DI. Do not let yoshi catch you with an uair at these percents. If hit, uair>ff immediately. There is a setup to cath you though for the uair. If you et eaten and you are in the egg and creak it while in the air, more than likely the yoshi will be right there next to waiting to uair you. My advice, stay in the egg a little longer if yoshi isn't following you. If he is, smash out and then predict what the yoshi is going to do. If the yoshi is using his bair while you are in the egg break out and DI where yoshi ISN'T FACING.
The other kill move that yoshi has that can be surprising at time is his nair. I forgot to mention it earlier, but I feel that it is an important section that needed to be added. This can kill us ~130% if near the edge. If you are at a high percentage, do not get into yoshi's jump>nair range. I recommend using yoshi for a few minutes and practice jump>nair against your opponents to feel his range. (This means do not try and combo yoshi too when at high percentages).
If you are killed at a low percent thatn either you have done something wrong or you have just been mindgamzed. His kill moves are easy to predict and see coming, other than his nair. The uair is coming whenever you are in the air. So keep this in mind and you will make yoshi's life so hard when he is trying to kill you.
Helpful Video's
Currenty Looking for some
Overall Matchup
55:45 in favor of pikachu
General Discussion
Yoshi...the little green monster. Bigger than pika and much harder to kill. Although yoshi's best recovery move is his egg toss, his two jumps more than make up for it. With SA frames his jumps can be hard to punish. And being a fairlyheavy character it can be had to kill. But, if you don't know it, yoshi has a blind spot and if get into it you will have gained the adv in the matchup.
Pika's Advantages
1. Small
2. Speedy
3. Has lots of stamina
4. Girls love us more than yoshi
5. Thunder
Pika's Disadvantages
1. Cg'able
2. Easy to kill
3. Egg>tjolt
Strategy for Winning
From the Eyes of Yoshi
The very first thing to do is read the post below this Character Matchup. It is very detailed and informative. From there I would read the rest of the posts in this thread. They are all very informative. What I am going to do in this matchup is point out some of the most important facts that you may not eem to be important and that you need to know.
Yoshi's Blind Spot
The first and very most important thing to remember in this matchup is that yoshi can outcamp us. Do not get into camp wars with yoshi. His jab cancels out our tjolt and the egg comes out faster and can be angled anywhere above yoshi, except for one spot. This one spot is commonly referred to as his blind spot. This is where you need to attack yoshi.
This spot is at a 45 degree angle above yoshi's eyes. Get there and use your tjolt. You are going to need to jup to get into position, but it shouldn't matter. No matter what yoshi you are playing, you should be attacking from this angle. (This isn't to say you can't try other means of approach. What im saying is that if you want to camp yoshi in any way or force an approach from yoshi or just even pressure yoshi this is one of your best options.)
If you want to camp yoshi then this is the spot you need to get in and abuse. If the yoshi gets under you then DI away and/or qac away and start it over again. You want to watch the yoshi carefully since they can surprise you by doing a hitting you with a running usmash or getting a nair off when you are coming down from the tjolt. You want to make sure that by the time you are falling you have ample time to manuever around justin case the tjolt misses.
Anotherwards tjolt+run away, repeat.
Yoshi's Combo Breaker
Yoshi may seem to be a character in which it would be easy to combo but this is not the case. Yoshi's jab and nair comes out faster than anything we have and with more priority so it will win. When you are close to yoshi on the ground and there is a lot of prussure to get the first move off you can expect a jab from yoshi. If you get a ff fair on yoshi a jab can ruin it for you so that you cannot get a grab or dsmash in.
The same applies to yoshi's nair. If we dthrow and try to combo with an uair or nair we will get hit by a nair. Best thing to do is either bait it or, MY FAVORITE wAY, to usmash and then chase yoshi. Always trying to stay under yoshi to punish with a bair or predict where they are going to land to get a grab when they airdodge into the ground.
Yoshi's Killing Potential
Yoshi has 3 main kill moves. You can't really count the fair as a kill move, but it can spike you if you are not careful. These 3 moves are his fsmash/usmash/uair. The one that will probably be used to kill you the most is his uair. most of the time the fsmash is staled and the usmash also. But, sometimes they will be fresh. This happens when you kill the yoshiand they have a new life with fresh attacks. With the usmash i would be wary when when you get around 115%. The fsmash is used often and it's gonna be staled. But, yoshi's will use it when you are near the edge and still try to kill you. Heck, they will use it no matter what. Haha.
The uair is what you need to worry about the most. I would worry about it killing at around 85% just in case you are caught making a button input and it leading to bad DI. Do not let yoshi catch you with an uair at these percents. If hit, uair>ff immediately. There is a setup to cath you though for the uair. If you et eaten and you are in the egg and creak it while in the air, more than likely the yoshi will be right there next to waiting to uair you. My advice, stay in the egg a little longer if yoshi isn't following you. If he is, smash out and then predict what the yoshi is going to do. If the yoshi is using his bair while you are in the egg break out and DI where yoshi ISN'T FACING.
The other kill move that yoshi has that can be surprising at time is his nair. I forgot to mention it earlier, but I feel that it is an important section that needed to be added. This can kill us ~130% if near the edge. If you are at a high percentage, do not get into yoshi's jump>nair range. I recommend using yoshi for a few minutes and practice jump>nair against your opponents to feel his range. (This means do not try and combo yoshi too when at high percentages).
If you are killed at a low percent thatn either you have done something wrong or you have just been mindgamzed. His kill moves are easy to predict and see coming, other than his nair. The uair is coming whenever you are in the air. So keep this in mind and you will make yoshi's life so hard when he is trying to kill you.
Helpful Video's
Currenty Looking for some
Overall Matchup
55:45 in favor of pikachu