Working on ideas for a Sonic fighting game. “Sonic Clash”

[Wademan94]

So I’ve had this idea in mind for a while for a 2D arcade-style Sonic the Hedgehog fighting game called “Sonic Clash” and I wanted to share and discuss what I had.

Spoiler: Potential story synopsis

Sometime after the events of Sonic Forces, Sonic and his friends (as well as a few familiar faces) participate in a fighting tournament. While the heroes are distracted (either set up or just seizing an existing opportunity), Dr. Eggman, taking note of the Phantom Ruby almost leading him to victory, completes a massive machine that taps into the power of the Warp/Special Zone to connect to other dimensions and timelines in hopes of finding more outside forces that could take down Sonic.

Sonic, Tails, Amy and Knuckles catch wind of Eggman’s plans thanks to Tails picking up strange readings within the zone as well as a frazzled Sticks who was teleported to their dimension to warn them. After a heated battle with two Metal Sonic, the four drop out of the tournament and fly on the Tornado to take down Eggman. One of the rings open up the apparently separate classic universe where Classic Eggman goes through and confronts his counterpart about the whereabouts of the Phantom Ruby, Classic believes he squandered its potential and demands the Ruby returned, attacking his current counterpart over it.

The machine gets damaged when Sonic intervenes and the Zone’s energy becomes unstable, shattering the Warp Rings, causing them to mix with one another and splicing the areas within them. Characters and eras from all over the Sonic series are brought in and tensions rise among the cast as the unstable energy will cause multiple dimensions to collapse as they fights to get back into the Warp Zone to fix the machine and return the dimensions back to normal.

Spoiler: Character roster

Characters I want to mainly focus on:
Sonic the Hedgehog (Irish the Hedgehog as an alt. character)
Miles “Tails” Prowler
Amy Rose
Knuckles the Echidna (Metal Knuckles as an alt. character)
Dr. Eggman (Eggman Nega as an alt. character)
Metal Sonic
Cream the Rabbit
Shadow the Hedgehog
Rouge the Bat
E-123 Omega
Vector the Crocodile & Charmy the Bee
Espio the Chameleon
Blaze the Cat
Silver the Hedgehog
Classic Sonic
Sticks the Badger
Big the Cat
Honey the Cat
E-102 Gamma
Chaos
Emerl (Gemerl as an alt. character)
Mephiles the Dark
Erazor Djinn
Sonic the Werehog
Merlina
Zavok (assisted by the rest of the Deadly Six)
Heavy King (assisted by the rest of the Hard-Boiled Heavies)
Infinite
Sage
Fang the Hunter
Bean the Dynamite
Bark the Polar Bear
Mighty the Armadillo/Ray the Flying Squirrel
Trip the Sungazer
Tangle the Lemur
Whisper the Wolf
Surge the Tenrec/Kit the Fennec
Agent Stone

Potential Guests
NiGHTS
Alex Kidd
Segata Sanshiro
Aigis
Arle Carbuncle
Mega Man
Korone Inugami

Spoiler: Potential Stages

So the stages would be spliced together through story reasons, and I'm trying to figure out which combinations would be visually/musically interesting...

(Sonic 1) Green Hill, Star Light
(Sonic 2) Chemical Plant, Casino Night, Metropolis, Death Egg
(Sonic CD) Stardust Speedway, Metallic Madness, Collision Chaos
(Sonic 3) Angel Island, Hydrocity, Ice Cap
(Sonic & Knuckles) Mushroom Hill, Flying Battery, Sandopolis, Sky Sanctuary, Lava Reef
(Sonic the Fighters) Aurora Icefield, Dynamite Plant
(Sonic Adventure) Station Square, Emerald Coast, Windy Valley, Speed Highway, Sand Hill
(Sonic Advance series) Chaos Angel, Sky Canyon
(Sonic Adventure 2) City Escape, Radical Highway, Metal Harbor, Pyramid Cave, Green Forest, Pumpkin Hill, ARK
(Sonic Heroes) Seaside Hill, Casino Park, Grand Metropolis, Mystic Mansion
(Sonic Battle) Emerald Coast
(Sonic Rush series) Water Palace, Dead Line, Blizzard Peaks
(Sonic 06) Crisis City, Kingdom Valley, Aquatic Base
(Sonic and the Secret Rings) Night Palace, Evil Foundry
(Sonic Unleashed) Rooftop Run, Windmill Isle, Cool Edge, Dragon Road, Eggmanland
(Sonic and the Black Knight) Misty Lake, Shrouded Forest
(Sonic 4 series) Lost Labyrinth
(Sonic Colors) Sweet Mountain, Starlight Carnival, Aquarium Park, Planet Wisp
(Sonic Lost World) Windy Hill, Honeycomb Highway, Sky Road
(Sonic Boom series) Bygone Island
(Sonic Mania) Studiopolis, Mirage Saloon, Press Garden
(Sonic Forces) Sunset Heights, Capital City, Mystic Jungle

I’ve been brainstorming ideas for potential character arcs as well...

Feel free to ask any questions and share your thoughts.

 

[Luigifan18]

I'd be interested in making a TV Tropes page about this once it's fleshed out more.

 

[Wademan94]

I'd be interested in making a TV Tropes page about this once it's fleshed out more.

I didn’t realize that could be done with fan ideas like this, how would you go about doing this?

 

[MainJPW]

I made a very similar roster a couple years ago for a Fighters 2 after I got the idea from an old Deviantart artwork I had seen 12 years ago. Another user made a roster for a Sonic Fighting game too, I’ll probably tag them when I find their post.

Spoiler: Potential story synopsis

Sometime after the events of Sonic Forces, Sonic and his friends (as well as a few familiar faces) participate in a fighting tournament. While the heroes are distracted (either set up or just seizing an existing opportunity), Dr. Eggman, taking note of the Phantom Ruby almost leading him to victory, completes a massive machine that taps into the power of the Warp/Special Zone to connect to other dimensions and timelines in hopes of finding more outside forces that could take down Sonic.

Sonic, Tails, Amy and Knuckles catch wind of Eggman’s plans thanks to Tails picking up strange readings within the zone and drop out of the tournament to take down Eggman. One of the rings open up the apparently separate classic universe where Classic Eggman goes through and confronts his counterpart about the whereabouts of the Phantom Ruby, Classic believes he squandered its potential and demands the Ruby returned, attacking his current counterpart over it.

The machine gets damaged when Sonic intervenes and the Zone’s energy becomes unstable, shattering the Warp Rings, causing them to mix with one another and splicing the areas within them. Characters and eras from all over the Sonic series are brought in and tensions rise among the cast as the unstable energy will cause multiple dimensions to collapse as they fights to get back into the Warp Zone to fix the machine and return the dimensions back to normal.

Spoiler: Character roster

Characters I want to mainly focus on:
Sonic the Hedgehog
Miles “Tails” Prowler
Amy Rose
Knuckles the Echidna
Dr. Eggman/ Eggman Nega (alt. character)
Metal Sonic
Cream the Rabbit & Tikal the Echidna potentially as an assist for story reasons
Shadow the Hedgehog
Rouge the Bat
E-123 Omega
Vector the Crocodile & Charmy the Bee
Espio the Chameleon
Blaze the Cat
Silver the Hedgehog
Classic Sonic
Sticks the Badger
Big the Cat
Honey the Cat
E-102 Gamma
Chaos
Emerl
Mephiles the Dark
Erazor Djinn
Sonic the Werehog
Merlina
Zavok
Heavy King
Infinite
Classic Eggman
Fang the Sniper/Nack the Weasel
Bean the Dynamite
Bark the Polar Bear

Other potential characters
Ray the Armadillo/Ray the Flying Squirrel
Captain Whisker/Johnny
D-Fekt
Dark Chao Walker
Void
Tangle the Lemur

Potential Guests
NiGHTS
Akira Yuki
Segata Sanshiro
Joker
Mega Man

Spoiler: Potential Stages

So the stages would be spliced together through story reasons, and I'm trying to figure out which combinations would be visually/musically interesting...

(Sonic 1) Green Hill, Star Light
(Sonic 2) Chemical Plant, Casino Night, Metropolis, Death Egg
(Sonic CD) Stardust Speedway, Metallic Madness, Collision Chaos
(Sonic 3) Angel Island, Hydrocity, Ice Cap
(Sonic & Knuckles) Mushroom Hill, Flying Battery, Sandopolis, Sky Sanctuary, Lava Reef
(Sonic the Fighters) Aurora Icefield, Dynamite Plant
(Sonic Adventure) Station Square, Emerald Coast, Windy Valley, Speed Highway, Sand Hill
(Sonic Advance series) Chaos Angel, Sky Canyon
(Sonic Adventure 2) City Escape, Radical Highway, Pyramid Cave, Green Forest
(Sonic Heroes) Seaside Hill, Casino Park, Grand Metropolis, Mystic Mansion
(Sonic Battle) Emerald Coast
(Sonic Rush series) Water Palace, Dead Line, Blizzard Peaks
(Sonic 06) Crisis City, Kingdom Valley, Aquatic Base
(Sonic and the Secret Rings) Night Palace, Evil Foundry
(Sonic Unleashed) Rooftop Run, Windmill Isle, Cool Edge, Dragon Road
(Sonic and the Black Knight) Misty Lake, Shrouded Forest
(Sonic 4 series) Lost Labyrinth
(Sonic Colors) Sweet Mountain, Starlight Carnival, Aquarium Park, Planet Wisp
(Sonic Lost World) Windy Hill, Honeycomb Highway, Sky Road
(Sonic Boom series) Bygone Island
(Sonic Mania) Studiopolis, Mirage Saloon, Press Garden
(Sonic Forces) Sunset Heights, Capital City, Mystic Jungle

I’ve been brainstorming ideas for potential character arcs as well...

Feel free to ask any questions and share your thoughts.

Everyone’s in for story purposes? So by having Sticks in the game are you establishing that Boom is a separate dimension? There’s nothing really stopping her from showing up in a main series title as a new character since she does have Sonic Channel artwork and makes appearances in the Sonic Channel official comics literally as just one of Amy’s friends.

If Merlina (Dark Queen form?) and Erazor Jinn are in then Mighty and Ray should 100% be in. I barely even remember Erazor. Void would be an interesting choice. If you had included Lumina Flowlight as well you could have made NiGHTS an alt like in Sonic Shuffle.

Vector & Charmy? You mean together like a tag team?

Spoiler: About Mephiles

Including Mephiles kinda muddy’s things a bit based on Iizuka’s comment at Sonic Boom 2012. He was asked about whether Blaze was from the future like in 06 or the Soul Dimension in an interview and answers Silver and Eggman Nega are from the future, and Blaze is from an alternate dimension.

https://www.sonicstadium.org/2012/07/sonic-boom-live-blog/

06 already reset itself by the end of the story but Iizuka’s comment just seems to like... erase its existence. She also clearly doesn’t know Sonic in 06, doesn’t even interact with him. Is 06 a separate timeline here or is Mephiles just a pseudo new character (canon first appearance) like Silver was for Sonic Rivals?

Would Emerl be G-merl or just regular Emerl? He was G-merl the last time we saw him. He also lives at Cream and Vanilla’s.

Spoiler

Does he switch between the two designs via alt costumes? Also, Tangle? I’m guessing she’s like a new character. Throw in Whisper too. The cool thing about these two is that Uekawa’s made artwork with them. He’s never done that for an Archie character.

Spoiler

Also would there be elements from Battle and Fighters worked in? What are the mechanics like?

 

[Wademan94]

Pretty good roster on your end.

Everyone’s in for story purposes? So by having Sticks in the game are you establishing that Boom is a separate dimension? There’s nothing really stopping her from showing up in a main series title as a new character since she does have Sonic Channel artwork and makes appearances in the Sonic Channel official comics literally as just one of Amy’s friends.

I think at least for this story they’d remain separate universes for consistency reasons and I did want to make mention of the main characters Boom counterparts within the story, Also it would show the extent of the damage Eggman’s machine has started causing to dimensions close to the main continuity.

Spoiler

Another story beat I had in mind at the beginning is Eggman testing out his machine by traveling to the Boom dimension in an attempt to recruit their Eggman, but doesn’t consider him helpful and ends up either stealing or copying the technology on his wrist which combined with a mini Eggmobile at the end of his hand would be utilized as the main mechanic in Eggman’s moveset as it summons attacks from his Eggmobile as well has parts from his mechs (For the record Classic Eggman would be fighting in a mech)

If Merlina (Dark Queen form?) and Erazor Jinn are in then Mighty and Ray should 100% be in. I barely even remember Erazor. Void would be an interesting choice. If you had included Lumina Flowlight as well you could have made NiGHTS an alt like in Sonic Shuffle.

The only thing that was keeping me from putting Mighty and Ray was I was unsure if they’d have enough between them for an interesting moveset but I think they’d work pretty well now that I think about it.

Yeah a Lumina costume/alt. character would work if both Void and NiGHTS make the cut.

Vector & Charmy? You mean together like a tag team?

Yes, even though I don’t have a full moveset for each character I want to at least have a good idea of how they’d play and I’m having trouble seeing how they’d work on their own (well more so Charmy) And maybe the two could represent some of the combo moves performed in Heroes.

Spoiler: About Mephiles

Including Mephiles kinda muddy’s things a bit based on Iizuka’s comment at Sonic Boom 2012. He was asked about whether Blaze was from the future like in 06 or the Soul Dimension in an interview and answers Silver and Eggman Nega are from the future, and Blaze is from an alternate dimension.

https://www.sonicstadium.org/2012/07/sonic-boom-live-blog/

06 already reset itself by the end of the story but Iizuka’s comment just seems to like... erase its existence. She also clearly doesn’t know Sonic in 06, doesn’t even interact with him. Is 06 a separate timeline here or is Mephiles just a pseudo new character (canon first appearance) like Silver was for Sonic Rivals?

I’m imagining Mephiles existing as some sort of anomaly between time and space, brought back to the main continuity through the destabilization of the dimensional rifts and either the Sonic cast would not know who he is yet have a sense of familiarity or the rift breaking down would cause those memories to surface, potentially disappearing once the rift is fixed.

Would Emerl be G-merl or just regular Emerl? He was G-merl the last time we saw him. He also lives at Cream and Vanilla’s.

Spoiler

Does he switch between the two designs via alt costumes? Also, Tangle? I’m guessing she’s like a new character. Throw in Whisper too. The cool thing about these two is that Uekawa’s made artwork with them. He’s never done that for an Archie character.

Yes, I’m thinking default Emerl with Gemerl as a costume or alt. character. Maybe Eggman would summon him and other robots like Gamma at the beginning to keep Sonic and his friends busy while they’re in the Warp Zone.

I mean I don’t know the possibility of a non video game Sonic character getting into a game like this but if they’d be open to it, I think they could take that opportunity. And yeah I think I’ll put in Whisper as well alongside Tangle as I now see her potential as well with her weapon.

Also would there be elements from Battle and Fighters worked in? What are the mechanics like?

I’m still trying to figure out what exact mechanics would be present but at the very least the movesets of the characters would have moves pulled/inspired from those games like Classic Sonic using Fighters moves and Modern Sonic using Battle moves.

 

[Deleted member]

What type of game engine do you have in mind, or is this just a concept?

 

[Wademan94]

Just a concept for now, I’m thinking about this is if it were an official game.

 

[Deleted member]

Just a concept for now, I’m thinking about this is if it were an official game.

If you’re going for 2D, I reccomend Clickteam. It’s easy to learn, and does cost dough, but there’s a demo ver.

 

[Wademan94]

If you’re going for 2D, I reccomend Clickteam. It’s easy to learn, and does cost dough, but there’s a demo ver.

Thank you, I appreciate the thought. I unfortunately do not have the ability nor the intention of making a fan game out of this.

 

[Lamperouge]

Great stuff.

Your character roster and stage list are solid enough as is, so I really don't have much to add there...besides maybe the inclusion of Eggmanland from Unleashed due to its significance in being a prominent goal of Eggman across many games. Besides that, the basic synopsis is a pretty safe and effective means of bringing together so many characters from different time periods and dimensions without it feeling too off putting. I'd definitely be interested in how certain characters react to the situation and if they have any personal goals of their own.

That being said, are there any particular character relationships that you wanted to explore more heavily? Would certain team combinations have their own personal interactions during battle, and if so, what examples have you already come up with?

 

[Wademan94]

Great stuff.

Your character roster and stage list are solid enough as is, so I really don't have much to add there...besides maybe the inclusion of Eggmanland from Unleashed due to its significance in being a prominent goal of Eggman across many games. Besides that, the basic synopsis is a pretty safe and effective means of bringing together so many characters from different time periods and dimensions without it feeling too off putting. I'd definitely be interested in how certain characters react to the situation and if they have any personal goals of their own.

That being said, are there any particular character relationships that you wanted to explore more heavily? Would certain team combinations have their own personal interactions during battle, and if so, what examples have you already come up with?

Thank you! I would like to explore some of the personal goals of the characters in the arcade mode if not story. I’ve had a few general ideas but if you have any potential ideas, feel free to let me know.

So I wanted to have Netherrealm style opening banter for this game, though I don’t know if there’s any way to make it team based but I’m sure there could be something done there. I do have a ton of ideas for individual character banter like that.

I would like to explore any tension between Sonic and Knuckles caused by these events, but aside from that I don’t have any set relationships I have to focus on in the story yet, though obviously having some resurrected characters would cause some interesting interactions.

I also wanted to fix some issues I’ve had with some of the recent characterization of some of the cast. A couple examples off the top of my head.
-Tails recognizing and lamenting how dependent he and the rest of the world has become on Sonic and working on becoming better at defending himself and others again. This will be something he discusses with Sonic as well as Amy and Knuckles so this will have an impact on the relationships between then in the story.
-applying and building off Infinite’s backstory from the tie in comic, working illusions of the Jackal Squad into his moveset as a result as well, he’d be the secondary antagonist of the game working alongside Classic Eggman and learns of more of the cast through Eggman’s secret files including fears, so he becomes something like Injustice 2’s Scarecrow using his illusions to put some of the cast through their fears in the story.

 

[Janx_uwu]

I really like your ideas. There's really only a few things I would add:
There's quite a few forest levels, so I would take out Green Forest and replace it with Pumpkin Hill or the Space Colony ARK (the room where Tails and Eggman fought). I also just think those levels are a bit more iconic and memorable. Sonic Adventure's Egg Carrier might also be a worthwhile inclusion.
In terms of fighters, I would really only add Honey the Cat, since she was in Fighters. Oh, and since Orbot and Cubot have been in just about every game since Colors/Colours, they might also be worth including as a joined character.
So, who would the main villain be? I would assume someone like Mephelis who's goals lie beyond getting back to his dimension. Maybe a potential story beat could have Mephelis learn that Sonic, Shadow, and Silver would eventually kill him in the past (or his future), and he would want to exact his revenge on them. Infinite could maybe serve as an adversary to him, since they both have beef with Sonic and Silver and especially Shadow.
Yeah, that's about all I wanted to say. Great work on this!

 

[Wademan94]

There's quite a few forest levels, so I would take out Green Forest and replace it with Pumpkin Hill or the Space Colony ARK (the room where Tails and Eggman fought). I also just think those levels are a bit more iconic and memorable. Sonic Adventure's Egg Carrier might also be a worthwhile inclusion.

The thing with the levels is that I’m listing potential options to be spliced together because the story has caused reality to start falling apart:

The machine gets damaged when Sonic intervenes and the Zone’s energy becomes unstable, shattering the Warp Rings, causing them to mix with one another and splicing the areas within them.

I’ll put Pumpkin Hill as an option regardless. I’m trying to figure out what combination of levels would be interesting visually and musically.

In terms of fighters, I would really only add Honey the Cat, since she was in Fighters. Oh, and since Orbot and Cubot have been in just about every game since Colors/Colours, they might also be worth including as a joined character.

Honey the Cat is in my roster. They will appear in the story but I’m not sure how Orbot and Cubot would work as a fighter. If you have any ideas on that let me know.

So, who would the main villain be? I would assume someone like Mephelis who's goals lie beyond getting back to his dimension. Maybe a potential story beat could have Mephelis learn that Sonic, Shadow, and Silver would eventually kill him in the past (or his future), and he would want to exact his revenge on them. Infinite could maybe serve as an adversary to him, since they both have beef with Sonic and Silver and especially Shadow.

So the main villains of the story are Classic Eggman and Infinite with CE being the final boss. Classic Eggman is furious with his modern counterpart with how he believed he wasted the Phantom Ruby’s power. After the incident with the machine, Eggman is forced to retreat to a secret base with Orbit and Cubot and CE manages to infiltrate his modern counterpart’s main base of operations. After discovering all the mechs and creatures ME tried and failed to control (aka all the final bosses) CE plans to use repair the machine and take control of these forces for himself and allies himself with Infinite after seeing what he can do with the Ruby.

Mephiles would be a major antagonist too, I imagine he’d be an anomaly in space and time after the events of 06 but is brought back through reality collapsing and would try to prevent the machine being repaired as a result. I do imagine some similar stuff to what you listed too

I’m glad you like what I have so far! If you wanna help me work on this or throw in any more thoughts, let me know!

 

[Janx_uwu]

The thing with the levels is that I’m listing potential options to be spliced together because the story has caused reality to start falling apart:

Ah, that makes more sense. That would look really cool for stages.

Honey the Cat is in my roster. They will appear in the story

My bad, I must've skipped over her.

but I’m not sure how Orbot and Cubot would work as a fighter. If you have any ideas on that let me know.

I'm not sure either, I just mentioned them since they've been in a lot of games. I assume it would consist of them using each other as weapons and receiving help from Eggman's badniks. Maybe they should just remain as a story character and not as a fighter. I'll give it some thought.

So the main villains of the story are Classic Eggman and Infinite with CE being the final boss. Classic Eggman is furious with his modern counterpart with how he believed he wasted the Phantom Ruby’s power. After the incident with the machine, Eggman is forced to retreat to a secret base with Orbit and Cubot and CE manages to infiltrate his modern counterpart’s main base of operations. After discovering all the mechs and creatures ME tried and failed to control (aka all the final bosses) CE plans to use repair the machine and take control of these forces for himself and allies himself with Infinite after seeing what he can do with the Ruby.

I see. Not who I expected as the main villain, but it's a treat to see none the less! Has me wondering if Infinite enjoys working under the Eggmen or not. Maybe there's something to be explored there.

Mephiles would be a major antagonist too, I imagine he’d be an anomaly in space and time after the events of 06 but is brought back through reality collapsing and would try to prevent the machine being repaired as a result. I do imagine some similar stuff to what you listed too

Cool.

I’m glad you like what I have so far! If you wanna help me work on this or throw in any more thoughts, let me know!

Of course! I'll keep this thread in mind and throw in my own two cents whenever. I don't have any coding knowledge, so I'm not the right guy to speak to for bringing this to life. But I will help in the future with like story and stuff. I also have the Fighters 2 thread in case you're curious to look at it-as of now no one's responded to it.
Last thing: Have you played Sonic Smackdown? It's a traditional fighting Sonic fangame. You should look into it if you haven't already.

 

[Wademan94]

Of course! I'll keep this thread in mind and throw in my own two cents whenever. I don't have any coding knowledge, so I'm not the right guy to speak to for bringing this to life. But I will help in the future with like story and stuff. I also have the Fighters 2 thread in case you're curious to look at it-as of now no one's responded to it.
Last thing: Have you played Sonic Smackdown? It's a traditional fighting Sonic fangame. You should look into it if you haven't already.

Glad to hear! If there’s any way I could approach SEGA/Sonic Team to get a project like this officially made, I’d take that opportunity. But for now I’m just gathering ideas and approaching this as if it were official, might even write out some of the story.

I haven’t played it but I have seen it and it does look interesting to say the least

 

[Janx_uwu]

If there’s any way I could approach SEGA/Sonic Team to get a project like this officially made, I’d take that opportunity.

So would I. Might have to work your way through the ranks-after all, Christian Whitehead was already making the mobile Sonic ports before proposing Mania-but that would be awesome to see it get off the ground. Sega's been super sporadic with Sonic spinoffs, and this is one that could definitely work.

might even write out some of the story.

Maybe I will too. I love to write, and recently I've been fresh out of ideas.

 

[Wademan94]

I altered my roster to the characters I would like to focus on, but I also wanted to list out a few other characters that came to mind that I think would be interesting candidates:

-Captain Whisker/Johnny
-D-Fekt
-Excalibur Sonic
-Reaper Metal Sonic

-Pac-Man
-Lilac (Freedom Planet)
-Sans
-Ruby Rose (RWBY)

Personally I didn’t wanna go for any console exclusive characters like Mario or Banjo, but if you have any other suggestions be it from the Sonic series, SEGA character or a third party that's fitting no matter how off the wall they may be, please let me know

 

[Wademan94]

So I wanted to try a different writing project atm, I decided to start writing out part of what I had in mind for the beginning of the story mode. I wanted to try a script like format as well as seeing how I would work with established characters. Let me know what you guys think:

 

[Rangez]

Have you ever considered what the main gameplay would be like?

 

[Wademan94]

Have you ever considered what the main gameplay would be like?

Yeah, I imagine it being mechanically similar to the Capcom Vs. series/Arc System Works library of fighters.

 

[Wademan94]

Gonna work on the story writing again soon, but I just wanted to throw out a stupid name I came up with for the machine Eggman’s using in the story.

The Timeline, Otherworld And Space Teleportation Engine.

Yes folks. The TOASTE.

 

[KillerCage]

Potential Guests
NiGHTS
Alex Kidd
Segata Sanshiro
Joker
Mega Man

Can I suggest Sash Lilac and Lord Brevon from Freedom Planet as guest characters or even an extra story that's unlocked after the main story?

 

[Wademan94]

Can I suggest Sash Lilac and Lord Brevon from Freedom Planet as guest characters or even an extra story that's unlocked after the main story?

I did have Lilac in mind as a guest character, I’ll put her down with some of the other ideas I’m debating

 

[Oracle Link]

So I’ve had this idea in mind for a while for a 2D arcade-style Sonic the Hedgehog fighting game called “Sonic Clash” and I wanted to share and discuss what I had.

Spoiler: Potential story synopsis

Sometime after the events of Sonic Forces, Sonic and his friends (as well as a few familiar faces) participate in a fighting tournament. While the heroes are distracted (either set up or just seizing an existing opportunity), Dr. Eggman, taking note of the Phantom Ruby almost leading him to victory, completes a massive machine that taps into the power of the Warp/Special Zone to connect to other dimensions and timelines in hopes of finding more outside forces that could take down Sonic.

Sonic, Tails, Amy and Knuckles catch wind of Eggman’s plans thanks to Tails picking up strange readings within the zone as well as a frazzled Sticks who was teleported to their dimension to warn them. After a heated battle with two Metal Sonic, the four drop out of the tournament and fly on the Tornado to take down Eggman. One of the rings open up the apparently separate classic universe where Classic Eggman goes through and confronts his counterpart about the whereabouts of the Phantom Ruby, Classic believes he squandered its potential and demands the Ruby returned, attacking his current counterpart over it.

The machine gets damaged when Sonic intervenes and the Zone’s energy becomes unstable, shattering the Warp Rings, causing them to mix with one another and splicing the areas within them. Characters and eras from all over the Sonic series are brought in and tensions rise among the cast as the unstable energy will cause multiple dimensions to collapse as they fights to get back into the Warp Zone to fix the machine and return the dimensions back to normal.

Spoiler: Character roster

Characters I want to mainly focus on:
Sonic the Hedgehog
Miles “Tails” Prowler
Amy Rose
Knuckles the Echidna
Dr. Eggman (Eggman Nega as an alt. character)
Metal Sonic
Cream the Rabbit (Tikal the Echidna as a potential assist for story reasons)
Shadow the Hedgehog
Rouge the Bat
E-123 Omega
Vector the Crocodile & Charmy the Bee
Espio the Chameleon
Blaze the Cat
Silver the Hedgehog
Classic Sonic
Sticks the Badger
Big the Cat
Honey the Cat
E-102 Gamma
Chaos
Emerl (Gemerl as an alt. character)
Mephiles the Dark
Erazor Djinn
Sonic the Werehog
Merlina
Zavok (assisted by the rest of the Deadly Six)
Heavy King (assisted by the rest of the Hard-Boiled Heavies)
Infinite
Classic Eggman
Fang the Sniper/Nack the Weasel
Bean the Dynamite
Bark the Polar Bear
Mighty the Armadillo/Ray the Flying Squirrel
Tangle the Lemur
Whisper the Wolf

Potential Guests
NiGHTS
Alex Kidd
Segata Sanshiro
Joker
Mega Man

Spoiler: Potential Stages

So the stages would be spliced together through story reasons, and I'm trying to figure out which combinations would be visually/musically interesting...

(Sonic 1) Green Hill, Star Light
(Sonic 2) Chemical Plant, Casino Night, Metropolis, Death Egg
(Sonic CD) Stardust Speedway, Metallic Madness, Collision Chaos
(Sonic 3) Angel Island, Hydrocity, Ice Cap
(Sonic & Knuckles) Mushroom Hill, Flying Battery, Sandopolis, Sky Sanctuary, Lava Reef
(Sonic the Fighters) Aurora Icefield, Dynamite Plant
(Sonic Adventure) Station Square, Emerald Coast, Windy Valley, Speed Highway, Sand Hill
(Sonic Advance series) Chaos Angel, Sky Canyon
(Sonic Adventure 2) City Escape, Radical Highway, Metal Harbor, Pyramid Cave, Green Forest, Pumpkin Hill, ARK
(Sonic Heroes) Seaside Hill, Casino Park, Grand Metropolis, Mystic Mansion
(Sonic Battle) Emerald Coast
(Sonic Rush series) Water Palace, Dead Line, Blizzard Peaks
(Sonic 06) Crisis City, Kingdom Valley, Aquatic Base
(Sonic and the Secret Rings) Night Palace, Evil Foundry
(Sonic Unleashed) Rooftop Run, Windmill Isle, Cool Edge, Dragon Road, Eggmanland
(Sonic and the Black Knight) Misty Lake, Shrouded Forest
(Sonic 4 series) Lost Labyrinth
(Sonic Colors) Sweet Mountain, Starlight Carnival, Aquarium Park, Planet Wisp
(Sonic Lost World) Windy Hill, Honeycomb Highway, Sky Road
(Sonic Boom series) Bygone Island
(Sonic Mania) Studiopolis, Mirage Saloon, Press Garden
(Sonic Forces) Sunset Heights, Capital City, Mystic Jungle

I’ve been brainstorming ideas for potential character arcs as well...

Feel free to ask any questions and share your thoughts.

What about Sally i dont really know or care about her but considering you feature Multiple Universes she could be in
A lot of Fans (not me) love her

 

[Wademan94]

What about Sally i dont really know or care about her but considering you feature Multiple Universes she could be in
A lot of Fans (not me) love her

I don’t know how her rights as well as the rights of the SATAM/Archie characters are currently handled but I don’t realistically see SEGA/Sonic Team too willing to go out of their way to acknowledge her, especially now that they’re pushing the IDW comics, though I have nothing against her and if she has an opportunity then I’d gladly add her in

 

[Oracle Link]

I don’t know how her rights as well as the rights of the SATAM/Archie characters are currently handled but I don’t realistically see SEGA/Sonic Team too willing to go out of their way to acknowledge her, especially now that they’re pushing the IDW comics, though I have nothing against her and if she has an opportunity then I’d gladly add her in

Sega has the Rights but yeah youre right on the Rest!

 

[Wademan94]

Sega has the Rights but yeah youre right on the Rest!

Yeah I’m not entirely sure why SEGA has been unwilling to acknowledge her in media outside the comics (maybe they consider her a package deal with the other Freedom Fighters and many of the others have too similar roles to the main cast like Tails and Rotor as mechanics, Knuckles and Bunnie as brawlers, etc.), though I’d be willing to get her in if she does get acknowledged on future media.

Speaking of I did find a cool fan design of her that I think would be perfect if she made it in:

 

[Oracle Link]

Yeah I’m not entirely sure why SEGA has been unwilling to acknowledge her in media outside the comics (maybe they consider her a package deal with the other Freedom Fighters and many of the others have too similar roles to the main cast like Tails and Rotor as mechanics, Knuckles and Bunnie as brawlers, etc.), though I’d be willing to get her in if she does get acknowledged on future media.

Speaking of I did find a cool fan design of her that I think would be perfect if she made it in:

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Weird how Sonic Guys are naked but the Girls wear Full Clothing

I mean i maybe Get that they would wear Shirts but Pants??? This seems weird!

 

[Wademan94]

Weird how Sonic Guys are naked but the Girls wear Full Clothing

I mean i maybe Get that they would wear Shirts but Pants??? This seems weird!

Guess they have different policies in their world than ours concerning those matters.

Regardless I still love this Sally design.

 

[Oracle Link]

Guess they have different policies in their world than ours concerning those matters.

Regardless I still love this Sally design.

Its good but i think the heels should be smaller or removed

I think having them be amy Sized would be a good idea

 

[Wademan94]

Its good but i think the heels should be smaller or removed

I think having them be amy Sized would be a good idea

Fair enough, I wonder what her moveset would be like for a game like this

 

[Wademan94]

Been working on some Netherrealm style intro banter between the cast, here’s all the ones I’ve made so far:

Spoiler

Sonic: Aren’t you the one that shot me in the back with a laser?
Mephilies: I did what I needed to release the flames of Iblis.
Sonic: So you’re a fake AND a coward.

Amy: So I guess Sonic wasn’t lying about that knight stuff.
Merlina: He would’ve made a worthy King Arthur.
Amy: Which means YOU’RE the reason he missed our date!

Sonic: Hey Erazor, can I borrow that blade for a second?
Erazor: You‘re not capable of wielding a weapon like this, rat.
Sonic: I just need it to shave this huge mustache I know.

Amy: So, loser buys the other dinner?
Sonic: Amy, I know that means a date with you either way.
Amy: It was worth a shot.

Alex: Wanna settle this with a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors?
Knux: Okay, but I can only do paper and rock...
Alex: Oh I’m sure you’ll do just fine.

Spoiler

Sonic: If you’re looking for a date Rouge, afraid to say I’m not on the market.
Rouge: Don’t worry Blue, I know you’re more into the princess type.
Sonic: Can we uh...heh heh...not go there?

Sonic: Have no fear, Sonic the Hedgehog is here!
Amy: Did you just steal my favorite catchphrase?
Sonic: Sure did, you want it back?

Sticks: Don’t worry, I’ll save you from those aliens!
Whisper: You misunderstand, these Wisps are my friends.
Sticks: That’s exactly what they want you to think.

Sonic: Is it hot in here or is it just you?
Blaze: Is that just a pun or are you flirting with me?
Sonic: Depends on which option will leave me less barbecued.

Shadow: You think you know how to take me down?
Eggman: Don’t forget who’s grandfather created you!
Shadow: He only had one of his plans foiled by Sonic.

Spoiler

: You know, I think I fought alongside someone to save the world wearing that same outfit .
: Perhaps this is the style of freedom fighters across different worlds.
: Don’t think he had those sweet red gloves though.

: So this world is full of talking animals like Morgana?
: Yeah your little cat buddy would fit right in this world. (Morgana: Not a cat! in the background)
: Don’t think I can say the same for you in my world.

: So, you ready to get smashed?
: Prepare for the ultimate all-out beatdown!
: Nothing like a good old-fashioned brawl.

Spoiler

Infinite: I’m afraid the illusion I created of you proved inadequate.
Zavok: What did you expect when you had me ride atop a giant bee?
Infinite: You couldn’t have stopped Sonic with an army of mechanical dragons.

Shadow: “You’re a lot more quiet than the Sonic in this world.”
Classic Sonic: (pantomimes some gestures)
Shadow: “Think I like you better already.”

Rouge: “Don’t cry too much if I end up ruining your outfit.”
Honey: “My fashion line can handle anything you dish out at it.”
Rouge: “Even military grade explosives?”

Knuckles: “We could’ve used your help with the Resistance a while back.”
Blaze: “I wish I could’ve been there, I had matters in my world to attend to.”
Knuckles: “Weren’t too busy to go kart racing with Vector.”

Sonic: “You won’t be able to see these kicks coming, Knuckles!”
Knuckles: “Like you didn’t see my uppercut back on Angel Island coming?”
Sonic: “That was a cheap shot and you know it!”

Spoiler

Amy: “Whatever happened to you after the Egg Carrier?”
Gamma: “I must rescue my E-Series friends.”
Amy: “After this, we’ll rescue them all together!”

Sonic: “Are you ready to start training, Cream?”
Cream: “You don’t have to hold back, Mr. Sonic!”
Sonic: “Your mom would kill me if I didn’t.”

Cream: “I wish you were my brother, Mr. Sonic.”
Sonic: “You’re already like a sister to me, Cream.”
Cream: “Aww! I think it’d be cool if you were a rabbit too.”

Tangle: “No fair Sonic! Stretchy limbs are MY thing!”
Werehog: “This happened to me way before you came along”
Tangle: “Lousy nighttime Gaia powers.”

Honey: “Oh Sonic! You’re so cute and fluffy!”
Werehog: “You better not be pulling out any cameras!”
Honey: “But I wanna make you into a plushie!”

Spoiler

Mephiles: “When you extinguished Solaris’s flame, I became an anomaly between timelines.”
Sonic: “It’s a shame you’re only half the god you used to be.”
Mephiles: “I’ll end this world even without Iblis.”

Shadow: “How’s the back of your head, Silver?”
Silver: “I still need to get you back for that.”
Shadow: “Let’s see you put those psychic powers to use.”

Sonic: “If you throw me against the wall ONE MORE TIME...”
Silver: “It seems your speed might be no use against my powers.”
Sonic: “That’s it, I’m kicking you back to your own time period.”

Knuckles: “I’ve been itching to take you down for a while.”
Zavok: “You cannot hope to match my strength.”
Knuckles: “I’ve plowed through stone walls stronger than you.”

Blaze: “So you must be Infinite.”
Infinite: “Indeed, another one of the blue buffoon’s friends I assume?”
Blaze: “You’ll pay for what you did to Sonic and Silver!”

Spoiler

Knuckles: “We are NOT calling outselves the “Sonic Squad”!”
Sonic: “Oh come on Knux, I think it sounds cool!”
Knuckles: “Do it and I’ll rejoin the Chaotix.”

Vector: “Hey Sonic, the boys and I are thinking about starting a band, you want in?”
Sonic: “Only if I get lead guitar.”
Charmy: “You’ll have to take that up with Espio.”

Amy: “I think I like this version of yours Sonic.”
Werehog: “But why? I’m not nearly as fast in this form!”
Amy: “Hehe, exactly.”

Blaze: “You’re suggesting the two of us form a team with Big?”
Honey: “Yep! We’ll call ourselves “Team Meow”! I can even make us matching outfits!”
Blaze: “I um...think I’ll get back to you on that.”

Gamma: “If I fall here, will you free my brothers for me?”
Omega: “I WILL DESTROY ALL EGGMAN ROBOTS AND PROVE MYSELF SUPERIOR!”
Gamma: “It appears you accept my request.”

Gamma: “Has Robotnik created you as my replacement?
Omega: “MY OBJECTIVE IS TO TAKE EGGMAN’S AKA ROBOTNIK’S FORCES DOWN.”
Gamma: “It seems loyalty is difficult to program for our creator.”