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Women Are Confusing

.Marik

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Okay, so I have a story to tell.

As some of you know, I live in a foster home. All of my biological family members are deceased, with the exception of my mother. Anyways, I currently live in a foster home, and we went camping up in North Bay.

So, me, my foster brother, and a girl we "borrowed" for the weekend went to the cottage owned by my "foster mom's" parents, and they had their own two foster kids there with them, and two biological children belonging to my actual foster mother and father.

Anyways, we'll call the girl Rachel. That's not her real name, but that's beside the point. She's a cute little thing, half Spanish and half Philipino. We are both hard of hearing and wear hearing aids, and we both have heart conditions.

Later that night, we hugged. Sweet right? Well, the drama starts the next day, when we took a walk to the beach.

We were walking, and the girl and my foster brother started to beef and talk mad sh*t. She's a little girl with a big mouth, and he's the type of girl that would snuff a girl, no questions asked. So naturally, it didn't end well.

They started pushing, and he shoved her so hard, she went flying down the road (am exaggeration, but you get the point) when she started to tear up and stormed off.

This chick didn't know the area, and I wanted to make you feel better, let it be known I had a crush on her, but so did my foster brother. Only difference is, he didn't make it blatantly obvious.

We started walking, and I found out some pretty disturbing things about her. For starters, her dad "sold" her to a "family friend" for some cocaine and weed. She had since been declining downhill in terms of emotional well-being, and I personally can't blame her. She's 14, and drinks and smokes heavily. This behaviour started to reflect as were talking, and anger poured out from her.

She eventually calmed down, and I told her my brothers had all died. That they were all six feet in the ground, and I hoped there was a heaven for them, even though I am agnostic. I was pretty astonished at the coversation we were having, but they (my other foster brothers) had walked back, and we returned to the cottage campsite and went swimming in the lake they have on the property.

I told her to try to cool down the beef, before it got worse because I can't stand when men beat women, and it would've triggered my... angry personality. They talked, and the fight was done, and they were cool again.

Allright, fast forward to after dinner. They went for a walk with my foster's mom's mother's foster kid's younger brother, and I remained on the property and went swimming with the older brother, he's a cool dude to chill with.

They were gone for 3 hours. We started to freak out, and he was worried about his younger brother, so we biked out. Along the trail, we saw them. They had the excuse of "getting lost" and me and the older foster brother knew it was bullsh*t. We guessed the my foster brother and Rachel made out and/or had sex. We didn't say anything, I had a feeling men can't help but gloat, and how correct was I.

Later on, near bedtime, my older foster brother told me what happened, as predicted. He kissed her, she rubbed his d*ck up, whatever. I'm not interested in that, I figured the Rachel chick liked me in a different way, not sexually, but sort of a big brother who she can cry to. (She later told me this) and I was immediately thrown into a rage. I don't know, it wasn't really jealousy, but more or less due to the fact the nice guy got pissed on, and the asswipe got the p*ussy. I couldn't believe how incredibly vain and stupid she was being, and was negative towards her the next time we saw each other, which was at breakfast. She had noticed the hostile attitide I held towards her, and asked me what my problem was. "Nothing", I replied in a collective manner.

So, I had began to reveal my feelings towards my other foster brothers, and they shared my thoughts... with the exception of the one Rachel made out with. Durrrr.

ZooOoOoOOm. Fast forward to when we got home, the morning after. By then, being the typical teenager most females are, she had other priorities and forgot the beef we had at the cottage. Again, we started to have a serious discussion, and we started to talk again, with how she was *****...

But here's what happened. Rachel told me she might've been impregnated by the assailant, who's currently locked up for murder. Then she revealed she coughed up "white, clumpy" stuff after she took a pregnancy test which came back positive.

She said the incident happened back in December. "LOLWUT. 8 months?" I asked, looking at her small tummy. A horrible realization sunk in.

She miscarriaged, and had coughed the fetus's spinal fluid and/or remains up. Rachel told me the man was going to harm her if the baby died. I comforted her, and we sat in silence.

I then asked her "why did you piss on the nice guy, and the asswipe got you?" She later told me she was confused, and wanted no further intimate moments with him.

She went back to her foster house, and we hugged once again before she departed. Later on, I told my foster brother what she revealed, and he simply said "she's lying, we made out WAY more times, you honestly think we just kissed?"

Godd*mnit. Women are confusing creatures. Also, I got my hair cut. First time in three years. Hate it and I'm in a very negative mood right now ffff.

So. There's my story. Who the hell should I believe?

Oh right. She might be moving in with us, for a long-term stay.

Great.
 

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That's too much drama to contend with dude. Heavy drinker, smoker, helluva lot of emotional baggage, ****ed your foster brother. I don't know much else I can say to this. Like, I don't know how strongly you feel for this girl or is it jest a fleeting thing. These are things you're gonna have to think about.

Also, about the haircut. I hate it when mine gets cut but end up liking it. Plus, hair always grows.

EDIT @ Noob: It's not that nice guys finish last, it's just a different type of thing. While it is true that nice guys get screwed over a lot. I'm gonna have to say when females finally know what they want, it lasts a lot longer. The teen age girl age group never know what they want, and constantly flip flop emotions and are about as deep as puddles. Girls who know what they want in that age group are a raaaare find.
 

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Well, I'm not really sure how to respond to the rest of the story, but I have a small idea of how women work.

If she really can't pick the nice guy over the asswipe, she doesn't deserve the nice guy. =/
 

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She miscarriaged, and had coughed the fetus's spinal fluid and/or remains up.
o.0 I was tempted to stop reading there. Anyway, you can't trust someone like that...like Chaco said, the drugs, the sex, and she's flippin 14. There's no way for me to know how strongly you like her or whatever, but man, slow down and just think about it.

And yes, they are confusing. I find it better not to try to understand them.
 

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In the end, is it really worth it to even care anymore? People have diffrent ways of coping with emotional trauma. Some girls can only deal with it in certain ways. They'll vent to anyone who'll listen and seek any type of consolation.
In this case, you were willing to lend an ear where she let out emotionally. But she also wanted to be comforted. In this case, your bro stepped in and she figured the only way she'll be comforted by someone is by going sexual. He just got lucky that she expressed that towards him. She'll probably still see you as only a friend and your bro as someone who'll make her feel loved.

tl:dr version:
You gotta question if it's your crush or pity that makes you even care what happens with her. She's confused and probably depressed from the trauma she's faced and the only way to forget it is by giving herself away just to feel loved.
 

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Dude, at least you got a haircut.

Jokes aside, some times someone's emotional well being is brought down by themselves. Some times you can't stop how they react or how they act. Perhaps if she moves in with you you can start a good relationship by telling her how you feel. How your taking this. That perhaps you care for her more than a brother.
 

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Rel, the tl;dr version of that I do not like at all. Human compassion is very logical and I would'n't cast aside his emotion as pity. When you spend time with a girl it is very easy to start to feel things towards her. It is very likely through their talks and such he developed his crush. However I do agree with the last line of that tl;dr. It seems that she's just in it for the "ride", if ya catch my drift.
 

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All women (some more than others) are a bit confusing at times, but you have an extreme case on your hands with all that junk in her life. This chick can either be nuts or very confused which are two very different things.

edit: lemon chiffon
 

RyuReiatsu

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Noobicidal said:
"Nice guys finish last."
Indeed, women are strange creatures.
And it's exactly this. But in your case, bro... It's much better.


Dude, at least you got a haircut.

Jokes aside, some times someone's emotional well being is brought down by themselves. Some times you can't stop how they react or how they act. Perhaps if she moves in with you you can start a good relationship by telling her how you feel. How your taking this. That perhaps you care for her more than a brother.
Don't. DON'T :urg:.
Just read Rel's and Chaco's post over and over again.
This girl would be too much for you to handle anyways... You know, your foster brother might not be lying. I'm pretty sure. I don't know if you guys consider each others are bros. But there's that saying: Bros Before Hoes.

I've already liked a girl out of pity (I didn't know it was pity though) , having a really bad life. Her parents being ex-pushers, her father getting arrested, moving all the time, her mom developping multiple diseases... Etc. Things have gotten better for her and my 'feelings' went poof. Don't take that risk dude, that girl's unhealthy. She could be ****ed up or simply confused. But you're the one who's going to suffer in this case. I say: back off for a while and think about the cons and pros. Not like it's really the way to do it when you've got a crush on somebody. But you do know you'll have extremely hard time handling her and the things she'll make you feel. And she chose to **** your foster brother, the asswipe who pushed her hard. What else is there to ask? She's that kinda dumb girl who likes tough bad guys. Because she need to feel secured. I knew a girl that was like that, despite the fact that she would always rant about how she'd like to have a boyfriend like me. I didn't go for her though, as she was too ****ed up/confused for me to handle.

Rel, the tl;dr version of that I do not like at all. Human compassion is very logical and I would'n't cast aside his emotion as pity. When you spend time with a girl it is very easy to start to feel things towards her. It is very likely through their talks and such he developed his crush. However I do agree with the last line of that tl;dr. It seems that she's just in it for the "ride", if ya catch my drift.
I'm pretty sure pity can make you develop feelings for somebody. And depending on how it develops, it can go beyond that :urg:.
 

.Marik

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"Nice guys finish last."

Indeed, women are strange creatures.
Indeed.

That's too much drama to contend with dude. Heavy drinker, smoker, helluva lot of emotional baggage, ****ed your foster brother. I don't know much else I can say to this. Like, I don't know how strongly you feel for this girl or is it jest a fleeting thing. These are things you're gonna have to think about.

Also, about the haircut. I hate it when mine gets cut but end up liking it. Plus, hair always grows.

EDIT @ Noob: It's not that nice guys finish last, it's just a different type of thing. While it is true that nice guys get screwed over a lot. I'm gonna have to say when females finally know what they want, it lasts a lot longer. The teen age girl age group never know what they want, and constantly flip flop emotions and are about as deep as puddles. Girls who know what they want in that age group are a raaaare find.
Entire post quoted for truth.

I'm starting to really like User Blogs.

And I don't know how much I like her, to be honest. I get the picture she doesn't like me sexually because she was never intimate in that manner. But then again, I don't really know what the f*ck to think anymore.

Yep, drama occurs in my life everyday. Same sh*t, different day.

Frown read the d*mn OP. :(

And RyuReiastsu, I agree with you. She still went with him, even when the differences between how much of an asswipe he was, and how I stuck up for Rachel were evident and glaring, and I still got **** on basically. That's the TL;DR part that infuriated me.
 

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Indeed.



Entire post quoted for truth.

I'm starting to really like User Blogs.

And I don't know how much I like her, to be honest. I get the picture she doesn't like me sexually because she was never intimate in that manner. But then again, I don't really know what the f*ck to think anymore.

Yep, drama occurs in my life everyday. Same sh*t, different day.
That has hurt you already, despite the fact that you don't even knoow how much you like her. Don't go any further... You're gonna eat the equivalent of 10 beatings if you're willing to try some more.
You don't need more drama in your life, bro. Go for healthy things, so your drama won't get any bigger.
 

.Marik

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That has hurt you already, despite the fact that you don't even knoow how much you like her. Don't go any further... You're gonna eat the equivalent of 10 beatings if you're willing to try some more.
You don't need more drama in your life, bro. Go for healthy things, so your drama won't get any bigger.
I never intended to manifest myself in this drama fest, and intend not to in the future.

It's not the "she doesn't want to f*ck me" thing that pissed me off, it was more or less the lines of "she is f*cking the guy that shoved her and treated her like a rag doll, and the nice guy finishes last and gets cold soup" that made me resent her for the day and made me want to type this non-fictional story up.

Either way, the thread title remains true. :\
 

RyuReiatsu

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I never intended to manifest myself in this drama fest, and intend not to in the future.

It's not the "she doesn't want to f*ck me" thing that pissed me off, it was more or less the lines of "she is f*cking the guy that shoved her and treated her like a rag doll, and the nice guy finishes last and gets cold soup" that made me resent her for the day and made me want to type this non-fictional story up.

Either way, the thread title remains true. :\
I've highlighted the part where you've said that she didn't want you sexually-speaking just to point out the thing with your foster brother. Sorry for being unclear.
Well anyways, I'm not good in those things... Good luck bro.
 

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"Women Are Confusing"
Welcome to women.

As tough as this might sound, the better choice here is for you to not get too invested with this girl. I know, you like her and it seems like you'd be able to help her out. And that might be ok for a while... but at the end of this story, you're only going to end up worse off.

She's a damaged girl obviously, and no matter how much you like her and no matter how much it seems like you could be the good guy and all would be alright with the world, don't do it. You won't be helping her much and you'll only end up hurting yourself. You've already fallen into the role of the comforting friend, and that's likely all she'll ever see you as for the time being. Nice guys usually aren't appreciated until girls are older and have already been with plenty of *******s. Not all girls are like this, but that's usually the way it goes.

Get over her as best as you can. There's plenty of healthy girls out there who do want the nice guy, or who at least will give you the chance.
 

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I've chased some crazy girls but ****. Marik, do yourself a favor and listen to what these guys said and take the time to think why/how much you actually care about this girl. And women only get more confusing, just fyi. If anything I would just try to get her some help for these problems, because you have your own stuff to deal with, and carrying her burdens isn't going to help.
 

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It's not the "she doesn't want to f*ck me" thing that pissed me off, it was more or less the lines of "she is f*cking the guy that shoved her and treated her like a rag doll, and the nice guy finishes last and gets cold soup" that made me resent her for the day and made me want to type this non-fictional story up.
That's probably a conditioned response due to her history of sexual trauma. I've seen this happen more than once. People who survive sexual abuse often tend to go one of two ways, either by shunning all romantic relationships for a long time, or by going the other way and getting involved with people who bear traits similar to their previous abusers--repeatedly. I've seen examples of both. The first is understandable, and the second is frustrating to watch because, to an outsider, it makes no sense. But it makes sense to them. Somehow. Because, I suppose, sex means something different to someone who's been abused.

If anything I would just try to get her some help for these problems, because you have your own stuff to deal with, and carrying her burdens isn't going to help.
I agree with the above. All you can really do is listen, and beyond that, she's going to need professional help.
 

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Actually, looking at the list of issues this girl has, her actions are not at all surprising.

Secondly, zero/minimal romantic connection or sexual chemistry exists between you two. Which is why you are not "together". Very simple, not confusing at all. Females, hell, people in general, don't want to date/have sex with every single person that is nice or accomodating to them.

Additionally, the only thing confusing here, is why you would want to date someone with so many glaring flaws. You like her looks and you pity her. Does she really possess the qualities of someone you would really want to date? Have some standards. Males in general need to have better standards, that don't involve looks.
 

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Man...that is one troubled woman. I feel so bad for her. :urg:

But you should know if you date a female like that with so much emotional baggage, it's not going to be easy at all.
 

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Actually, looking at the list of issues this girl has, her actions are not at all surprising.

Secondly, zero/minimal romantic connection or sexual chemistry exists between you two. Which is why you are not "together". Very simple, not confusing at all. Females, hell, people in general, don't want to date/have sex with every single person that is nice or accomodating to them.

Additionally, the only thing confusing here, is why you would want to date someone with so many glaring flaws. You like her looks and you pity her. Does she really possess the qualities of someone you would really want to date? Have some standards. Males in general need to have better standards, that don't involve looks.
I'm still wondering.
Is it pity or the feeling of similarities?
We are both hard of hearing and wear hearing aids, and we both have heart conditions.
In any case, unlhealthy. You've got enough problems like that, get a good girl that won't cause you too much trouble.
 

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Wow, that's a lot of drama. I'm going to have to just chime in here and join with what everyone else has said, which is to not go any further with the girl. IT wouldn't be good for you, and everything else has already been stated.

The whole nice guys finish last thing can, indeed, be true most of the time. A woman's mind can work in strange ways. You got the roll of the big brother, so you just get to listen to the problems and everything. Not much to do.

Try to stay away from as much drama as possible. It's very fatiguing, and it's not good for you in any way.
 

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You misspelled Filipino :/


but aside from that crap, dude don't bother with someone that disturbed anymore. like all the others have said, you don't NEED her do you? someone who's ****ing 14 and already had sex multiple times is pretty messed up. Just stay and watch from afar. if needed get Professional help like what someone here said. Don't bother with people like this. you will get dragged down yourself.
 

.Marik

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Yeah, I'm going to take everyone's advice and steer clear of this girl.

Sorry Aurasmash, the Google database suggested both spellings were either correct/incorrect.

Anyways, thanks for the input everybody. I've come to the conclusion I no longer want to be in a relationship, even though that wasn't my intended goal in the first place.
 
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