SvartWolf
Smash Champion
Hey there, this thread is basically to speculate and number things you would love to see in smash switch if it ends being a port of the wiiu game. The wiiu game is an excellent mulltiplayer experience and a very solid competitive game, but it does have its flaws if you stop playing it that way.
for starter, playing singleplayer can be pretty boring, and there is a lot of features like mii fighters, stage maker and 8 players smash that feel like an afterthough.
Feel free to say which characters you would like seeing and stuff, but please, try to not only talk about characters and avoid post that is only "I want to see x character in smash" because there is a lot of other threads to discuss just that.
Also please note that the fact that smash switch will be a port is PURE speculation, as the fact that it will have a lot of new content. So don't put your hopes on it and just have fun :3
so for starting, here is my top 10 list!
10!
More characters (duhhhh)
lets start with the obvious, more character, nothing ore to say here franklly.
Imo the more solid nintendo picks would be ice climbers and inklings, old and new. niche and mainstream, appeals both hardcore smash fans(Iceclimbers) and newcomers (Inklings), and both can potential offer stuff no other characters can.
as for third parties, i would go with shovel knight and bomberman. both of them seem to be doing fine in the switch, at this point shovel knight have started feeling like the indie posterboy and bomberman is a timeless classic.
as for personal dreampicks, i would go with Ridley and simon belmont. very unlikely, but thats is why they are dreams. duh.
And bring another namco rep. they have make a great job developing the game, let's throw them some love.
so now that we talked about characters, lets move to other more juicy stuff.
9!
smash 3ds content in HD!
I mean, stages, trophies and stuff. let the worlds collide, (I mostly want gerudo valley in hd though
) which brings us to the next point.
8!
Smash Run Redux in HD.
Smash tour was a mistake, but smash run seems to still have some potential to be a cool alternative way to play smash.
7!
more consistency between DLC characters and the rest of the cast. even if giving them customs at this point would be
mere a formality. but stuff like new mii gear from some of this franchises, more content (Final Fantasy) or assist trophies could be cool. not 100% dependant on nintendo though. (I mean, that final fantasy music selection..)
6!
Now that i mentioned 8 and 7, who is for a melee like adventure mode? with NPC, plataforming, enemies and stuff? with themed worlds such as mario, zelda, DKC, final fantasy or megaman :o we don't need a complicated story and lots of cutscenes...but a great designed levels would be very welcome.
5!
Mii fighters redux. this whole idea was way too underdeveloped for casual/singleplayer game, and too unbalanced and counterintuitive for competitive. Mii fighters are already either banned or confined to sub optimal and boring characters everywhere, so i don't think that altering the balance of the game too much with a new mii fighters creation method. more probably it wouldn't be allowed on the normal meta, much like items arent, and nothing wouldve changed for the worse..
That being said, the ability to choose between heights in the game would be very welcome. also a decent color edit mode for the parts of the costumes.
But more importantly, first the chance to choose between at least 3 different body proportions. this woudl help inmensily at the moment of recreating characters. the proportions would be a mario/actual miis proportion, a mega man's zero kinda anime proportion, and a realistic proportion. and if you need to go even further, add a donkey kong esque hulking proportions, and a kirby/blob/super chibi proportions. the proportions shouldn't be tied with height.
the biggest problem is that every proportion should have its own anymations, even if the attack looks the same. but the plus is that they could be more creative with the mii's skin they make, and certainly they would become wsaaaay more tempting to buy using real money if they go for dlc. considering that now if you purchase a chrom skin, you can choose not to make it look like an abomination of nature.
The second part of this point is being able to have more customs moves, and even at least an alternate set of normals and grabs you can choose, this obiously have the potential to be very broken on competitive, but since way less customization is already banned in competitive, its clear it would be more a casual/for fun addition.
4!
New game modes! some interesting gamemodes could be tag team battes, and a real crew battle mode that doesnt have TOs kinda improvising one. another easy mode to implement could be a king of the hill esque mode with a plataform that spawns in certain places of the map and gives point to whoever is standing on it. this could also help make teh bigger maps more playable, since running away is no longer a strategy.
3!
Improved 8 players smash! a mode with so much potential, but right now seems to be a mess, even if a lot of people have attempted to make it viable. some of what it held it back is technical dificulties which the switch being at least more powerful than the wiiu should have an easier time with it. And a lack of structure. team deathmatch doesn't work too well in 4v4 scenarios, and anything outside teams is pure chaos.
IMO less killing oriented mechanichs and more objective oriented mechanics could help more with the bigger teams meta. Both money smash (currently unavaiable in 8 smash, probably due to technical constraints) and king of the hill smash could see the potential of teams attempting to fill different roles, like a cash speedester that attempts to grab all the money while staying alive, another one to hunt the money grabber a good cqc interrupter that attempts to set up a heavy hitter for big cash production, or stuff like that.
Plus king of the hill would help a lot bigger stages with stuff like circle camping, running away, camping walkoffs, making them more viable IMO.
It would also be a great way to promote the switch 8 console LAN parties.
2!
Improvments to the stage builder! From brawl to wiiu we certainly saw a big improvment to the stage builder, but that doesn't means that it can imprve a lot still. from returning features from brawl such as conveyors belts and circle platforms, to the ability to make 8 players stages or deciding where to put spawn platforms, and some kind of CTRL Z when you are drawing complex forms, there are a lot of quiality of life improvments to be made.
now add the chance to be able to not make them ugly as hell withouth making a deal with the devil to bend reality in the more creative ways, and we can certainly have something very exciting.
maybe add the chance of different styled platforms, decorative stuff on back layers, and the ability to alter the main platform in 3 dimensions (even though the stage would still be 2 dimensional. being able to put decirative stuff on other layers beside gameplay layer, and who knows, maybe add more themes, some of them franchise related, such as mario textures with questionmark blocks, stuff like that. aaaand that meks us reach to number one (which coincidentally uses a lot of the bases of the previous numbers)
1!
Being able to create adventure like themed platforming stages a la mario maker. we now have the neutral enemies from the smash run, amd adventure mode ike melee, and even access to a lot of custom miis, a even better stage builder and more resources and stages resources, sooo, how cool would it be to be able to design platforming stages in smash? and use teh game resources to replicate the success of mario maker? plus, while there is a limit how much dlc characters you can make without throwing balance through a window, stuff like mii costumes, or stages resources and themes are more easy to keep producing them withouth worrying of breaking balance, making the game potentially profitable in the long run.
Please note that this is a total dream wishlist and i'm not expecting for smash switch to be this. but sometimes speculating of what could be is fun (i mean.. look at this part of the forum)
sooo, your thoughs? what you would love to see a potential smash switch add to the table? besides... the obvious new characters :o
for starter, playing singleplayer can be pretty boring, and there is a lot of features like mii fighters, stage maker and 8 players smash that feel like an afterthough.
Feel free to say which characters you would like seeing and stuff, but please, try to not only talk about characters and avoid post that is only "I want to see x character in smash" because there is a lot of other threads to discuss just that.
Also please note that the fact that smash switch will be a port is PURE speculation, as the fact that it will have a lot of new content. So don't put your hopes on it and just have fun :3
so for starting, here is my top 10 list!
10!
More characters (duhhhh)
lets start with the obvious, more character, nothing ore to say here franklly.
Imo the more solid nintendo picks would be ice climbers and inklings, old and new. niche and mainstream, appeals both hardcore smash fans(Iceclimbers) and newcomers (Inklings), and both can potential offer stuff no other characters can.
as for third parties, i would go with shovel knight and bomberman. both of them seem to be doing fine in the switch, at this point shovel knight have started feeling like the indie posterboy and bomberman is a timeless classic.
as for personal dreampicks, i would go with Ridley and simon belmont. very unlikely, but thats is why they are dreams. duh.
And bring another namco rep. they have make a great job developing the game, let's throw them some love.
so now that we talked about characters, lets move to other more juicy stuff.
9!
smash 3ds content in HD!
I mean, stages, trophies and stuff. let the worlds collide, (I mostly want gerudo valley in hd though
) which brings us to the next point.8!
Smash Run Redux in HD.
Smash tour was a mistake, but smash run seems to still have some potential to be a cool alternative way to play smash.
7!
more consistency between DLC characters and the rest of the cast. even if giving them customs at this point would be
mere a formality. but stuff like new mii gear from some of this franchises, more content (Final Fantasy) or assist trophies could be cool. not 100% dependant on nintendo though. (I mean, that final fantasy music selection..)
6!
Now that i mentioned 8 and 7, who is for a melee like adventure mode? with NPC, plataforming, enemies and stuff? with themed worlds such as mario, zelda, DKC, final fantasy or megaman :o we don't need a complicated story and lots of cutscenes...but a great designed levels would be very welcome.
5!
Mii fighters redux. this whole idea was way too underdeveloped for casual/singleplayer game, and too unbalanced and counterintuitive for competitive. Mii fighters are already either banned or confined to sub optimal and boring characters everywhere, so i don't think that altering the balance of the game too much with a new mii fighters creation method. more probably it wouldn't be allowed on the normal meta, much like items arent, and nothing wouldve changed for the worse..
That being said, the ability to choose between heights in the game would be very welcome. also a decent color edit mode for the parts of the costumes.
But more importantly, first the chance to choose between at least 3 different body proportions. this woudl help inmensily at the moment of recreating characters. the proportions would be a mario/actual miis proportion, a mega man's zero kinda anime proportion, and a realistic proportion. and if you need to go even further, add a donkey kong esque hulking proportions, and a kirby/blob/super chibi proportions. the proportions shouldn't be tied with height.
the biggest problem is that every proportion should have its own anymations, even if the attack looks the same. but the plus is that they could be more creative with the mii's skin they make, and certainly they would become wsaaaay more tempting to buy using real money if they go for dlc. considering that now if you purchase a chrom skin, you can choose not to make it look like an abomination of nature.
The second part of this point is being able to have more customs moves, and even at least an alternate set of normals and grabs you can choose, this obiously have the potential to be very broken on competitive, but since way less customization is already banned in competitive, its clear it would be more a casual/for fun addition.
4!
New game modes! some interesting gamemodes could be tag team battes, and a real crew battle mode that doesnt have TOs kinda improvising one. another easy mode to implement could be a king of the hill esque mode with a plataform that spawns in certain places of the map and gives point to whoever is standing on it. this could also help make teh bigger maps more playable, since running away is no longer a strategy.
3!
Improved 8 players smash! a mode with so much potential, but right now seems to be a mess, even if a lot of people have attempted to make it viable. some of what it held it back is technical dificulties which the switch being at least more powerful than the wiiu should have an easier time with it. And a lack of structure. team deathmatch doesn't work too well in 4v4 scenarios, and anything outside teams is pure chaos.
IMO less killing oriented mechanichs and more objective oriented mechanics could help more with the bigger teams meta. Both money smash (currently unavaiable in 8 smash, probably due to technical constraints) and king of the hill smash could see the potential of teams attempting to fill different roles, like a cash speedester that attempts to grab all the money while staying alive, another one to hunt the money grabber a good cqc interrupter that attempts to set up a heavy hitter for big cash production, or stuff like that.
Plus king of the hill would help a lot bigger stages with stuff like circle camping, running away, camping walkoffs, making them more viable IMO.
It would also be a great way to promote the switch 8 console LAN parties.
2!
Improvments to the stage builder! From brawl to wiiu we certainly saw a big improvment to the stage builder, but that doesn't means that it can imprve a lot still. from returning features from brawl such as conveyors belts and circle platforms, to the ability to make 8 players stages or deciding where to put spawn platforms, and some kind of CTRL Z when you are drawing complex forms, there are a lot of quiality of life improvments to be made.
now add the chance to be able to not make them ugly as hell withouth making a deal with the devil to bend reality in the more creative ways, and we can certainly have something very exciting.
maybe add the chance of different styled platforms, decorative stuff on back layers, and the ability to alter the main platform in 3 dimensions (even though the stage would still be 2 dimensional. being able to put decirative stuff on other layers beside gameplay layer, and who knows, maybe add more themes, some of them franchise related, such as mario textures with questionmark blocks, stuff like that. aaaand that meks us reach to number one (which coincidentally uses a lot of the bases of the previous numbers)
1!
Being able to create adventure like themed platforming stages a la mario maker. we now have the neutral enemies from the smash run, amd adventure mode ike melee, and even access to a lot of custom miis, a even better stage builder and more resources and stages resources, sooo, how cool would it be to be able to design platforming stages in smash? and use teh game resources to replicate the success of mario maker? plus, while there is a limit how much dlc characters you can make without throwing balance through a window, stuff like mii costumes, or stages resources and themes are more easy to keep producing them withouth worrying of breaking balance, making the game potentially profitable in the long run.
Please note that this is a total dream wishlist and i'm not expecting for smash switch to be this. but sometimes speculating of what could be is fun (i mean.. look at this part of the forum)
sooo, your thoughs? what you would love to see a potential smash switch add to the table? besides... the obvious new characters :o
