Wind Waker Link's moves

[Fawriel]

I didn't do anything yet. I still trust that one of you will make a complete moveset to get in along with mine.
Or do you want to vote on one of the, if I recall correctly, incomplete movesets we got recently?
If so, I vote for twilight_hero's.

 

[Dynamism]

Well...it's good, but I disagree...pretty much everywhere. Sorry...

Here's mine.

Nuetral B: Ice Bow
I got this idea from YL's Fire Bow. It briefly freezes an opponent, like the Freezie (like...I dunno, a second). At higher percentages, they stay frozen for longer. Actually can be an effective KO tool.

Over-B: Deku Leaf
Shoots a gust of air from the Deku Leaf. Acts kinda like the star Kirby shoots if you spit an enemy. But you can control it (to some degree) by tilting the Control Stick up or down as it releases (just like the boomerang!). If you use it in midair, it propels you backwards, like Mewtwo's Shadow Ball.

Down-B: Remote Bomb
Pull it out and hold it for as long as you like. Throw it with A. Press Down B again to blow it up.

Up-B: Hurricane Spin
Normally, it's just a Spin Attack. But if you charge it up, it lasts a lot longer and you can control your movement--use the Control Stick to move left or right. Fantastic for recovery when fully charged, as it basically gives him flying powers.

Grab: Grappling Hook
DUH. And of course, it's a tether recovery too.

That's my CSL MS.

yeah that's good and



BOUNCY HAHAHAHA!!! Somebody saw something on bouncy Link I'm guessing? Glad it's catching on. Good job for keeping that going Fawriel. But rabbit seems to be lost in the pages. Oh well, 50% stickied term



Page 514 Confirmed Character Thread
08/25/07

yey

1. Link's Dair was a large part of his moveset. It was a significant factor both in advanced tourney's in terms of bouncing off of heads and back on while edge-guarding or for plain old n00bs for spamming. Link's Dair is now a fall through. Much like G&W's "key to victory" and more true to Link's "actual final blow" This however would take away a large part of the game. It was a unique move confined solely to the Links! Link is a heavier weight than his counter part so the fall through fits well. But who are they gonna give the bounce to? Marth? Maybe IC's? NO! This move was a part of Link since ssb64 so unless the bounce is another sweet spot gimmick to complicate the game...then it will go to a "bouncy" character, such as a lighter Link.

2. Young Link, (not essentially called young in many cases) has been in more games than actual Link. More than CSLink as well, which would be the other (t_heroknows I love this term) rabbit Link. But considering Young Link is more common and already has a smash fanbase because he is already in Smash, he is the best bet. The only thing going for CSL is the CSded-ness (it would add a new type of animation to Brawl). Young Link is a larger part of the Zelda franchise than the most recent Link (the Link we know as Link) and he is a completely different style of Smasher.

3. He is a variation of LINK! THE LINK! FREAKIN LINK! You could make twenty Links in smash and NEVER repeat a SM because his history is so stretched! YL could even borrow CSL grapple because the cross-over wouldn't be hard. "his diverse arsenal of equipment.." in the Link Profile doesn't even cover an 8th of his arsennal! Deku Nuts, Bomb arrows would be a nice addition, Skull Hammer and much more! His STICK even did more damage than his sword in most games!

4. Young Link hasn't been replaced yet, there aren't many candidates that still can. (a small speedster with a sword). Who are they gonna put? Wolf carrying a knife? Why don't they add blood to Brawl? YL is a bouncy agile swrodsman with fire-power, you might as well take out Samus! Who needs a char with a chargeble blast and missles? We have M2 and Megaman might be a 3rd Party entree! Plus...he's a LINK! Zelda is a bigger franchise than Metroid (not by much but still) and considering there are 2 (maybe 1 and 1/2) Samus's, and there were already 2 Links in a Smash game prior to...They're not just going to "remove" a Link! Especially not the "older" one (in terms of history, and Smash is about the "history" of N).

That's the just of it, I made a rant on it in the LINK DISCUSS THREAD at like my 100th post or so...cause some ***** didn't want a second Link. but yeah,

Young Link Confirmed!

 

[Fawriel]

yeah that's good and



BOUNCY HAHAHAHA!!! Somebody saw something on bouncy Link I'm guessing? Glad it's catching on. Good job for keeping that going Fawriel. But rabbit seems to be lost in the pages. Oh well, 50% stickied term



Page 514 Confirmed Character Thread
08/25/07

yey

Oo, nice defense for our green-clad hero there. Seems like good material for the first post of the new thread.

Honestly, though, I never saw that you posted that. I already had the "bounciness" in the moveset before I updated it, I think.. which was.... here! 7-10-2007. I win.

 

[Fawriel]

A double post... ah well, it's been long enough.

I asked Venus of the Desert Bloom whether I'm allowed to use her(?) moveset for WW Link as an example of a "non-clone" moveset.
It's in her thread, at the bottom of the original post: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=116501

If you are okay with that, I'll go ahead and PM a mod about closing this and collect all the necessary stuff and... stuff.
WW Link needs a decent thread for when he's confirmed! *shakes fist*

 

[Young_Link808]

nice work well here'z mine

----------------------
WW Link:

Defualt - Master Sword
longer then da kokiri sword

Defualt - Mirror Sheild:
instead of holdin da hyrule shield he holds da mirror shield he got in WW an it doesnt only sop items an projectiles it also reflects projectiles and items lyke fox's reflecter?

Taunt - Wind Waker
Link Playes Sarias theme

Grab - Grappling Hook
brings items to him grabz people 2 him an kan hook on 2 wallz to pull him self bak up

Standard B - Light Arrows
wen it reachea sum1 it stunz dem fo a while an does damage also

Up B - Deku Leaf
jus lyke peaches umbrella an on ground does a gust an blows dem bak wit damage

Side B - Hero's Boomerang
same thing lyke SSBM boomerang

Down B - Hurricane Spin
if done on ground he starts flingin around left or right u control an spinz lyke crazy u kan hold it down for it to be longer

Final Smash - Wrath of the Protecters
WW Link uses da triforce of courage(da 1 in his hand) 2 call Valoo the dragon Jabun the fish and the 2 wind guys and since da deku tree kant *** his children kan. WW Link uses the magic armour to make a shield so none of the atks kan damage him. so they all appear valoo makin fire breath, jabun makin tidal waves or sumtin, da wind guyz makin tornadoes an cyclones, da children throwin deku seeds that explode killin every1.

 

[dynamic_entry]

^^what is up with your spelling?

personally i'd prefer something a little different to light arrows and the boomerang. i like the other 2 special moves though. and the grappling hook is pretty widely accepted as a cool grab for ww link.

mirror shield seems a little overpowered. and you could probably go with the phantom sword because, well, it sounds cool (living in australia i haven't played LoZ: tPH yet, but when i do.....).

finally, interesting final smash, sounds pretty uber. personally i prefer the simplicity of the 'uses wind waker to make big hurricane thingy' but thats just me.

 

[Legolastom]

Wat u mean wat up wid is spellig? iz u tat spellz rong.

: P

Anyways i hope his moves focus more on WW than PH... not much of a difference in items though.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

A double post... ah well, it's been long enough.

I asked Venus of the Desert Bloom whether I'm allowed to use her(?) moveset for WW Link as an example of a "non-clone" moveset.
It's in her thread, at the bottom of the original post: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=116501

If you are okay with that, I'll go ahead and PM a mod about closing this and collect all the necessary stuff and... stuff.
WW Link needs a decent thread for when he's confirmed! *shakes fist*

For future information, I am a guy haha.

 

[Dynamism]

good call on bouncy Fawriel. That's about when I joined the boards
if you check other threads that cover this, they say it there too
And yeah, CSL confirmed
And grapple = must for at least grab. Hammer = sweet *** DB hopefully. Leaf would be a good UB. Arrows are a must somehow but maybe FB and he just lets a fire/ice fly, no charging but direction changing is similar to YLink boomwang in melee. And for a NB...swordspin. This is more like Zelda Naru Love in melee (which could move to her DB) as in he spins with his sword like YLink UB in ssbm but he also reflects crap with the sheild at the same time. In the air, he doesn't raise much or slide alot. Kindof like Mario Tornado in distance.

That'll doi just foine

 

[Legolastom]

Personally i would make his grapple hook his up B his Deku leaf his side B's... not to sure where to put his other two but the grapple could act as a tether grab and the Deku leaf could be a form of gliding when used in the air... Making him to ultimate recovery er... Link.

 

[Yukiwarashi]

Why not focus on PH? It's the third best selling game in Japan this year, I believe. o.o

 

[Burning Lava]

Hmm... I'm too lazy to flesh out an entire moveset, but i do like coming up with little concepts once in awhile.

So here's the latest. What if WW Link is a gliding character? Sure, everyone has suggested using the Deku leaf for floating/gliding, but I'm suggesting using it as the new "gliding" move that a few of the flying characters have. By this of course I mean holding the jump button after the mid-air (second) jump. But unlike Peach in Melee, this will have the new Brawl specific ability to nose dive, and pull back up and such.

Basically, you get full use of the Deku Leaf's gliding, without using up a B or an A move. (If you want it to throw gusts of wind while on the ground as some have suggested, that's cool, I leave it up to you guys.)

P.S. I was hoping the new character announced would be WW Link since it was right about when PH was released, which I now have, and is simply pure DS joy. New idea for Brawl playables; WW Link, AND PH Link! Ha, totally awesome! JK

 

[Johnknight1]

There it is. One point to Wind Waker Link. He could be in Brawl, this picture showed that it's possible.

And it would fit perfectly well.

Yes, because diffrent graphic and art styles fit perfeectly together in smash [I'm not being sarcastic btw].

How do you know thats not Tingle's classic mode trophey!? XD

Anyway show that to anyone who says "WW Link will look out of place"

It's like....

*Points at cel-shaded tingle*

PWNED

how do you like sakurai final smash, the back hand slap NOW Sandman?!

sandman pwnage is always good. Yaz!

Then again, they have trophies of characters that aren't in Smash or even repped. Cel-Shaded Tingle may mean only they recognize WW as a series.

But why would Tingle be cel-shaded, when he's not cel-shaded in Majora's Mask=??? Simply put, this shows Sakurai reconizes cel-shading characters, reconizes the Wind Waker as it's own game, and possibly even reconizes the latest Zelda, Phantom Hourglass.

I need to make a revamped Wind Waker Link moveset.

 

[Dynamism]

Is Tingle "out-of-place" in that pic? No?

CSLink Confirmed!

 

[Johnknight1]

^ Hopefully. Tingle blends in perfectly. I always said:

lighting effects > graphic style > graphics

This only helps CS Link's chances. He's all but confirmed now (hopefully...but he'll be under the name Young Link)

 

[Dynamism]

I went with "all but confirmed" when it showed the first video and Links final blow was fall through. yey

 

[Johnknight1]

For pwning sandman, Stryks deserves a hell of a lot of cookies. Or the Noble Peace Prize (n00b pwning > saving the enviornment).

And ya, WW Link relaly needs the Skull Hammer as a move. Seriously, he needs it, but not with the lag of Kirby's Hammer. That move is almost as laggy as a Falcon Punch. It should have half the lag of that, or something. Maybe a lot of after lag, or something like that.

 

[ylink_underestimted]

i still remember jumping when i saw CS Tingle...awesome chances for CS Link
ah here we go again with the "What Will the Cel-Shaded Link's Name Be in Brawl?" argument...then everyone's gonna be going, "dude he's not Young Link! that's why his name wont be! i'll prove it to u with the LoZ timeline!" not that that's bad (cuz i love learning about it since my Nintendo life started at 9 with my very first GC!)

also, JohnKnight: y do u still have the pro-online Brawl petition thing on yer sig when Online Brawl Play is already confirmed? and the Skull Hammer in the air could be a Meteor Smash

 

[Legolastom]

Hey if he keeps the name YL then that means he is still a veteran and... that means that he could be revealed soon... dun dun dum

 

[OddCrow]

people, if WW-Link is in, he NEEDS a unique moveset, like the one I posted. Not one that is just like a Falco/Fox type relation.

 

[revnum9]

I'd rather have Young Link with the Goron, Zora, and Deku masks. They could be used in a similar fashion to Pkmn Trainer.

 

[AuraLancer]

He should be able to steal the item you are holding with his grappling hook. That would be funny.

Also, since his graphical style also represents the Four Swords games, perhaps moves could be pulled from there. I'm addicted to the Four Swords' fire rod.

 

[Johnknight1]

i still remember jumping when i saw CS Tingle...awesome chances for CS Link
ah here we go again with the "What Will the Cel-Shaded Link's Name Be in Brawl?" argument...then everyone's gonna be going, "dude he's not Young Link! that's why his name wont be! i'll prove it to u with the LoZ timeline!" not that that's bad (cuz i love learning about it since my Nintendo life started at 9 with my very first GC!)

also, JohnKnight: y do u still have the pro-online Brawl petition thing on yer sig when Online Brawl Play is already confirmed? and the Skull Hammer in the air could be a Meteor Smash

IDK, I've been thinking wat to replace it with, but haven't reached a decision yet. And because I'm lazy.

And WW Link's Skull Hammer needs to change in air like Kirby's. And it should totally be a meteor smash. Great idea ylink underestimated.

Hey if he keeps the name YL then that means he is still a veteran and... that means that he could be revealed soon... dun dun dum

Well, I've wondered what he WOULD BE. He would sorta be both, having elements of a veteran, and a new original newcomer. But due to lack of a better name, he'd be Young Link. So all in all, he would be a revamped veteran fighter.

And for stealing people's weapons...that was my favorite new feature of Wind Waker, behind original pysics, and a new type of story. Darknut sword ftw folks! But IDK, maybe he could just use the hookshot to grab items, as sugested.

 

[AuraLancer]

Actually, I was referring to the grappling hook that stole items like rupees and hearts and joy pendants.

"OMG! He picked up a Hammer!" *throws grappling hook* "My hammer now!"

I wouldn't like hearing him called Young Link, but it could be worse; "This game's winner is: Pokemon Trainer!" *shudders*
Let's just call Mario "Plumber" while we're at it.

 

[Fawriel]

Hey if he keeps the name YL then that means he is still a veteran and... that means that he could be revealed soon... dun dun dum

He's more like Lucas, really... but yes, he could. That's why we need a thread soon.

I'll give you guys a deadline to come up with a good moveset... I'm probably getting annoying at this point, but I barely saw a complete moveset that was in any way convincing, and I didn't notice any ( maybe two ) votes for any existing ones...

Deadline is this wednesday, October 10, around noon for most of you.

people, if WW-Link is in, he NEEDS a unique moveset, like the one I posted. Not one that is just like a Falco/Fox type relation.

God forbid he have a moveset that actually makes sense.

I'd rather have Young Link with the Goron, Zora, and Deku masks. They could be used in a similar fashion to Pkmn Trainer.

Believe it or not, this fails to interest me. We don't need every character and their shoes transforming into stuff just because it's not completely and utterly out of question.
Not to mention that it just won't happen, not only because Majora's Mask wasn't very popular and already got its recognition in Melee with that game's Young Link.

I wouldn't like hearing him called Young Link, but it could be worse; "This game's winner is: Pokemon Trainer!" *shudders*
Let's just call Mario "Plumber" while we're at it.

Hmmm. I suppose there's a reason for Pokemon Trainer's genericness, though. First, one is supposed to identify with him, which is harder if he's given a certain name. Secondly, I believe that you'll be able to choose different skins for him to strengthen that effect, so he'd actually become a different person.

 

[AuraLancer]

OK then;

A-His progression of sword slashes from Wind Waker, the last one being pretty strong (repeating)

Tilt A- A strong stab (Links dash move in SSB)
Up- a strong swipe over his head
Down- an upward swipe coming from the ground

Smash A- the jump attack
Up- Whips out the hammer and swings it in a 180 arc over his head. if someone is directly behind him and hit by the starting animation they are dragged with it to the ground in front of link, whoever is directly in front of link is squished as if they were footstooled(you only go flying if you are hit while in the air
Down-an uppercut swipe starting from ground level

Aerial- use this to whip out the Deku leaf, causing slight knockback around him and then allowing him to glide down(like Peach floating diagonally instead of horizontally)
Up- the original upstab will suffice
Forward- a somersault(Ness aint the only one with a big head)
Back- backhand with shield
Down- gotta keep the lobotomizer

B Up-Hurricane spin- can charge for a long spin but causes dizziness(shield break) if it hits nothing(only causes dizziness if fully charged) No charging it in the air; the move just goes
B - Fire Rod (hold b for stream, tap b for fireball) the stream has lag going in and out of it but stays the same length and surface area the whole duration) The fireballs turn into a small flame if they hit a nonPC or the environment and this flame can still damage, even Link.
B Down- Cane of Pacci does a vertical chop with the cane; any one hit with it or the Lip's stick sparkle that comes with it are turned upside down and dropped on their heads. This has a similar effect to Mewtwo's confusion except the range is farther and it can be reflected back to Link.
B Forward- I like the Gust jar- Hold it in for more suction and let it go for an air gust. IT can draw items and characters in gently and causes no damage. The gust has knockback based on the charge time

Dash- Links move from four swords where he leaps forward suddenly with a devastating slash(bad for edges)

FS-He COULD summon that cyclone, but I'd rather that be his match entrance. Instead he should either;
A. Freeze time with the Phantom hourglass- this should not be fullscreen. Nobody that is affected can move in the short time they are affected. Link will just keep hitting them until time unfreezes. When time unfreezes, all the damage is accumulated at once and they are launched based on the final attack that hit them (Kind of like how the stop spell works on Kingdom Hearts).

OR

B. Link reaches into his Bait Bag and tosses All-Purpose bait around the stage. wherever the bait falls, that area is instantly flooded with pigs(Marill effect),Giant Pigs(Rollout effect), Rats(minor damage and knockback, defeatable), and/or Bombchu(explode on impact)

There ain't no clone here, my friends

 

[Fawriel]

Hmm, that's not too bad. Very interesting Final Smashes, too. And kudos for the "lobotomizer". =P
Though, for b moves, try to keep in mind that there's a certain idea behind the design of a character's moveset. If you can think of interesting moves, that's cool and all, but would they make sense for the character and do they work well together?
That's just generally speaking... I guess you gave him some nice tricks and no attack that unnecessarily makes him slow and powerful...
Where are all those items from, though?


PS: Sorry, Venus. ^^'

 

[Legolastom]

O yhea a FS idea... it would be great if he targets the closet character and then does what he does the G-dorf at the end of WW... and the person is also temporarily in cased in stone.

 

[raphtmarqui]

If WWL is in, should he have that Phantom Hourglass fairy follow him around?

 

[Dynamism]

Good FS idea AuraL but I actually really "don't" like the MS. No offense but it's just like everything else cameoed. Mewtwos thing but along the ground and further. Pulling people in, might as well be Kirby but have more power than someone who actually fights by sucking. Or possibly the P3000 for Luigi. The UB is alright but that could be used else where, maybe even as a smash. The fire rod is alright though.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Fawriel, would you like me to post up WW LINK's moveset?

 

[Fawriel]

Uhm, sure, if you want to. I already linked to it, but I'm not sure whether anyone noticed. *scratches head*
Remember, everyone, deadline's tomorrow.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

A, A, A = Slash, Slash, Twirl Slash
He does two standard slashes and does a jumping twirl slash much like in WW.
Side A = Super Strike
Executes a two-handed attack.
Down A = Knee Swipe
Uses a horizontal slash at the knees.
Up A = Over Arc
Slashes over his head.
Air A = Air Chop
Slashes downwards while in the air.
Air Side A = Piercing Stab
Does a piercing stab forwards.
Air Down A = Shield Bomb
Uses his shield to smack anyone below him.
Air Up A = Upper Arc
Executes a Over Arc but while in the air.
Running A = Shield Charger
Charges forward smashing the shield into the enemies face.
Side Smash = Hyper Twist
Slices horizontally, circles around and delivers a Twirl Slash.
Down Smash = Fatal Stab
Reels back and then lunges forward and delivers a powerful downward stab.
Up Smash = Pinion
Reels back and then executes 8 fast thrusts upwards juggling the opponent

B = Ice Arrows
Uses his bow and arrow but equipped with ice arrows which can freeze opponents
Side B = Hurricane Twirl
Able to be charged. Link flies around the stage in a mad slashing twirl.
Down B = Skull Hammer
Pulls out the Big Hammer and lets it lose. If he is airborn, he will continue to fall until he strikes surface.
Up B = Deku Leaf
A gust of wind propels Link up. Press B again to inflate the leaf to knock away enemies.
Grab = Hookshot
A = Shield Basher (Hit opponent with shield)
Front Throw = Uses his shield to push the opponent forward.
Back Throw = Jumps on top of the opponent and flips kick them away.
Up Throw = Throws him in the air and does a small spin attack.
Down Throw = Knocks opponent down, delivers a blade thrust, and then knocks the opponent away.

Final Smash: Lion Cannon - Similar to Fox's, WW Link appears with the King of Red Lions and pummels a single character with a massive ammount of bombs. WW Link then jumps from the boat, flips several times in the area, and stabs the character in the head. While it will not cause characters to kock off the stage, it causes vast amounts of damage.

 

[Legolastom]

Nice move set... and whats happening tomorrow? new thread or something?

 

[SpitFire15]

Quick question:

Why do so many people think WW Link is needed in Brawl or why he has any chance of making it into the game at all?

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

Quick question:

Why do so many people think WW Link is needed in Brawl or why he has any chance of making it into the game at all?

Because WW Link is awesome. And rocks your face off. And because he's awesome. We covered that already? Nope, never enough; that's how awesome he is.

And because he's a better choice than most other Young Link variations because of his potential to be more unique than the other styles, both physically and moves.

My WW Link moveset is still in my sig as it's been. However, I believe I made it before we knew anything about Final Smashes, so I didn't make one for him.

 

[ylink_underestimted]

Quick question:

Why do so many people think WW Link is needed in Brawl or why he has any chance of making it into the game at all?

Quick Answer:

Im not sure he's actually needed in Brawl (because no one but the vets from SSB64 are actually needed), but he has chances because he's from a different version of Zelda, he was on Sakurai's poll, and he's awesome.

 

[Fawriel]

The Legend of Zelda series has split into two directions. A darker, more serious one, and a more colorful and playful one.
WW Link is the quintessential representative of the latter, he has had two games himself and his style has been reused many times. Yes, he is important.

And yes, he is that awesome.


So, Kabyk, you're "submitting" your moveset? Then I have three contenders so far...

 

[ylink_underestimted]

still shocked that Sonic's actually in Brawl (CS Link next anyone? XD )

anywayz: i think ive given up on movesets for the time being. with all the schoolwork im doing i hardly have enough time to even check on the Dojo anymore...
though i think i might make a moveset if the new CS Link thread might come up, but i dont think i could help make it...
hopefully if i get the time i will.

 

[dynamic_entry]

bought Phantom Hourglass today................





Omfg, Best Game Ever!!!!