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Well he has to die sometime and why would they tell us that? they only really tell us things that happened in the game.

Im just saying that that is one way to put Zelda 2 somewhere.
Well...that's not really Link in WW, is it? Or in TP, as far as I know...so he does die somewhere. But I doubt they'll "officially" kill him until the very last LoZ game. And you're right, that is a good idea about where to put Zelda 2. But what about TP? Doesn't that come after...oh, but it's in a different timeline, isn't it.

Holy crap, you could be right!
 

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Yhea and the way i put it is the gods were not really causing that much damage drowning Hyrule i mean... look at it! in those two games monsters roamed everywhere and there were only a few small towns left in Hyrule.

And the hero could easily be the Link from the 1st game...

The big question is how many games are in each timeline... because most people tend to put the Cel shaded ones alone in the adult one and just put the rest in the child one, but i think that the adult one goes like this:

OOT [Adult] -- LOZ - Zelda2 - WW - PH ------- LTTP

Thats just part of it my time line isn't quite refined yet...
 

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Yhea and the way i put it is the gods were not really causing that much damage drowning Hyrule i mean... look at it! in those two games monsters roamed everywhere and there were only a few small towns left in Hyrule.

And the hero could easily be the Link from the 1st game...

The big question is how many games are in each timeline... because most people tend to put the Cel shaded ones alone in the adult one and just put the rest in the child one, but i think that the adult one goes like this:

OOT [Adult] -- LOZ - Zelda2 - WW - PH ------- LTTP

Thats just part of it my time line isn't quite refined yet...
I haven't fully explored WW, but weren't there only two towns in it? One town if you don't count Outset. And three in TP.

When you say "the first game" do you mean the first game in the timeline (TMC) or in the series (LoZ)?

And what about LA? I still stand by the statement I made earlier that it comes directly after LttP...it's like OoT to Majora's Mask...after OoT, he rides his horse to Termina, and after LttP, he takes a boat trip and winds up on Koholint. Don't spoil LA for me, BTW; I haven't finished it yet. I also haven't finished OoA, but I didn't like it that much so I sold it. Spoiler that one if you have to; that one's okay.

Lemme see...the only LoZ games I haven't finished are the first, the second, LA, OoA, and MM. The spoiler-able ones are MM, OoA, and the first two, since I know what happens in MM and will probably never finish the other three. And of course I haven't finished PH, but I really wanna. And I'm working on TP for the Wii now--I've beaten it twice on GC.
 

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What does the number of towns have to do with anything? i mean there would be no towns left after the flood anyway.

And i meant the first game (LOZ).

And about LA's that doesn't really effect the timeline IMO seeing as it of course comes after LTTP.

And the ending of TP leaves room wide open for a sequel involving Termina.
 

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What does the number of towns have to do with anything? i mean there would be no towns left after the flood anyway.

Nothing, really...but you mentioned it first...

And i meant the first game (LOZ).

Okay...

And about LA's that doesn't really effect the timeline IMO seeing as it of course comes after LTTP.

Right...

And the ending of TP leaves room wide open for a sequel involving Termina.
Good point. He's riding his horse to...where? And what about Ilia? Do they have something? Hmm...
 

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That point about the towns was just to show how barren Hyrule was but in WW there are plenty of settlements... i would say about 6 main settlements... (One of which got destroyed by Ganondorf) not to mention all those little houses and pirates roaming the sea's... and in PH there are even more towns.

So WW Link stage ideas?
 

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The perfect WW stage is the final battle with ganondorf, with the water falling and everything, u see water falling in the BG, but wont affect gameplay, meaning not a hazzard in any way...
 

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That point about the towns was just to show how barren Hyrule was but in WW there are plenty of settlements... i would say about 6 main settlements... (One of which got destroyed by Ganondorf) not to mention all those little houses and pirates roaming the sea's... and in PH there are even more towns.

So WW Link stage ideas?
Woah...you have...oh, right...you got your PH earlier than we did here in the States, didn't you? Well, don't spoil anything.

The perfect WW stage is the final battle with ganondorf, with the water falling and everything, u see water falling in the BG, but wont affect gameplay, meaning not a hazzard in any way...
That would be awesome. that or...the Tower of Gods...or maybe the Forsaken Fortress.
 

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No you always get things before us...

But if you could see the Triforce in the Background as well that would be great i mean not to far in the back ground but closer to the players... all shining and stuff.
 

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******'s and... a race who like to... merchant... if you catch my drift.

(They used to wear big floppy hats in wind waker...)
 

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Personally I'm not opposed to having another Link form in Brawl. It wouldn't be my first choice for a Legend of Zelda character, though. And I doubt if I'd main with him just because I alreay main w/ regular Link.

There isn't a problem to having a second Link, just as long as they make him fit uniquely in the game. People who have a problem with any such WW Link or other form are only opposed to how the character looks and fear that he'll be the same.

Lets assume that when Sakurai says there will be no clones in the game, he means not that the certain characters from Melee won't return, but that there won't be characters with very similar movesets.
And if your judging a character just because how the person looks... well there's definately something wrong with that. Segregation and discrimination are bad.

If I had to choose a forth Zelda character (sheik excluded becuase thats a whole different discussion) I'd choose Majora's Mask attached to Skull Kid's head.

He's an amusing unique and dark character in the Zelda universe. The game is one of the best (direct sequels I've ever played, and I thinkn he's popular enough to make it in. Plus it would be nice to how they incorporate the stlye of TP and how SkullKid looked in that game as well as a new design for the mask into Brawl.

Personally, I think Midna is a possible as well, but I just don't like that character. The cartoonish Link is also very possible, and people who say he won't be in it are very blind-sighted. Note I'm just saying that they're possible.
 

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I would love SK in brawl but... sadly his chances are not very high *sigh* so WW Link FTW!
 

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I would love SK in brawl but... sadly his chances are not very high *sigh* so WW Link FTW!
Agreed. *Double sigh*

I'll just have to keep playing Majora's Mask. I picked it up again the other day and restarted it. I hadn't played it for about 6 years, so all the puzzles are still just as challenging to just remember them.
 

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The only character i want more than Skull kid is Happy mask salesman... but thats almost as bad a suggestion as Naruto XS (****ing Naruto).

But that stage Stryk's suggested woith a Triforce in the BG would be great!
 

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The only character i want more than Skull kid is Happy mask salesman... but thats almost as bad a suggestion as Naruto XS (****ing Naruto).

But that stage Stryk's suggested woith a Triforce in the BG would be great!
Idea:
Happy Mask Salesman as Assist Trophy:
Well maybe the happy mask salesman could throw four different masks on the field; each with a different power. (Bunny hood: speed) (BlastMask: blow-up once or twice) (Stone Mask: No one can attack you for a limited time) (And possibly Majora's Mask: given darkly powers for a time)
 

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Now thats a good idea for an AT but we should be speaking about WW Link...

So what did you think of last pages stage idea?
 

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Now thats a good idea for an AT but we should be speaking about WW Link...

So what did you think of last pages stage idea?
Yeah that would be a great stage. I'm remembering that scene between him and Ganondorf being one of my favorite scenes in WW.

Though, I think the waterfall should somehow be incorporated with the battle.
 

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Also, Zelda 2 is the last of the series' timeline. There's no way Link to the Past came afte that because Ganon was still Ganondorf in the beginning of the game.

EDIT: Nintendo has confirmed years ago that Link to the Past happened before the events of the First Zelda game.
Nintendo has confirmed so much crap in the past before, I don't believe them. And that is impossible for ALTTP to happen before tLOZ and Zelda II, because as explained in FSA, Ganon has seeked the trident of power he has in ALTTP forever. And f*** wat some random Nintendo idiot said. Seriously, they said Fox's dad Jame's name was Fox McCloud Sr.=wrong, and have had so much ill-informed information. Plus nothing beats Shiggy, since along with Anouma, they ARE THE SERIES. Also, Miyamoto said the following happens this way [right before he confirmed he was working on SSB64 with Sakurai]:

OOT
V
MM [at the time he didn't give the name if I am correct, but he did mention OOT's sequal...I think]
V
tLOZ
V
Zelda II
V
ALTTP

[he's confused on where LA fits].

The perfect WW stage is the final battle with ganondorf, with the water falling and everything, u see water falling in the BG, but wont affect gameplay, meaning not a hazzard in any way...
That or a traveling Great Sea stage. Any WW stage is a good stage! :)

I would love SK in brawl but... sadly his chances are not very high *sigh* so WW Link FTW!
SK and WW Link are my fav Zelda characters. However, I don't want SK as a PC, I want him as a boss/AT. Plus SK is 7 years old, and has only made a few cameo appearances. WW Link is much more important, and is argueably more popular then TP Link. He's also one of 3 [maybe 4] Links to appear in 2 games as the star, and we all know FS Link is the most popular [sarcasm], OOT/MM/tLOZ/Zelda II Link has been replaced with TP Link in Brawl [unless YLink from MM somehow makes it in Brawl]. So really, the Zelda roster is broken down like this.


Confirmed:
-Link
-Zelda

Confirmed [as far as I care]:
-Ganondorf [doubt him, and die!]

VERY LIKELY:
-Wind Waker Link

About half chance
-Shiek
-Midna [I see one or the other]

Small chance:
-Vatti
-Zant
-Skull Kid

Microscropic chance:
-Tingle [thankfully :)]
-Aghamin
-any other Zelda character, really.

But then again, that's just IMO. ;) And MM rocks! All of them rock! Love the Series! :)
 

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Why does how old the character is matter...Some of the older characters and games are better than the new ones...Maybe not necessarily in gameplay...But other elements
 

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I tend to treat the Windwaker Link (and similar version) as a seperate character from the series just because it takes place years and years after all the older games.

Somehow I want to compare it to StarWars, but its the opposite. I don't know. I mean, he has a sister, but is he actually a reincarnation of Link? I'm confused and I am going to look into it after I comment.

All said above is nonesense. Please ignore.
 

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I'm sorry to see that Link is even back
besides spamming uB's and infinite projectiles,
I've only seen one Link v Link battle worth watching
just my opinion...
 

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I'm sorry to see that Link is even back
besides spamming uB's and infinite projectiles,
I've only seen one Link v Link battle worth watching
just my opinion...
Well of course he's back...

...Only an idiot would think he wouldn't be
 

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Why does how old the character is matter...Some of the older characters and games are better than the new ones...Maybe not necessarily in gameplay...But other elements
Because, in Smash you'll find a balance of new and old. In Brawl thus far:

Long-Lasting characters: Mario, Link, Kirby, Pikachu, Samus, ZSS, Meta Knight, Wario, Solid Snake, Zelda, Bowser, Diddy Kong, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, and Peach.

Retro: Pit, Ice Climbers, kinda the Pokémon Trainer.
Newer: Ike.

Anyways, balance is neccissary, and only really retro characters will probably be in. So now the N64 era is considered retro I guess. And more recent characters in more popular games have better chances then characters in lesser popular games, and older. For example, Midna has better chances because TP sells well, and is very popular. MM, while still popular, is sadly a desipised Zelda game. Therefore, Skull Kid's chances are lower then Midnas. I like SK more then Midna [though I'd rather have Midna as a PC], but when it comes to chances, newer characters who are popular have simply better chances then their older, but still very popular counterparts. But then again, you never know.

Remember JK1 things change with time and Anouma confirmed the split timeline recently.
Yes, but that's still in effect. That is just part of the Hyrule A timeline, which is still valid IMO.

And intriging update...

Edit: Link's uB, too strong=??? Blastophmey...seriously, Fox's shine is TOO strong [and I'm a Fox main]! XD
 

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I'm sorry to see that Link is even back
besides spamming uB's and infinite projectiles,
I've only seen one Link v Link battle worth watching
just my opinion...
"I knooow thaaaat iiiiiim noooooooo. Superman."

You scrub!

And why not watch some more battles because link ones are one of my favorite.
 

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I'm sorry to see that Link is even back
besides spamming uB's and infinite projectiles,
I've only seen one Link v Link battle worth watching
just my opinion...
Soooooo much fail in that post!

Okay, here goes.

"I'm sorry to see that Link is even back."
First off, don't come into a thread like this and talk about how much you don't like Link. Second, of course he's back. He's the protagonist of, like, Nintendo's second-best-selling franchise, and he'll never be gone! Third, why the hell did you hope he wouldn't be back? Fourth (and this is the most imnportant thing, so remember it):
YOU FAIL.

"Besides spamming uB's and infinite projectiles, I've only seen one Link v Link battle worth watching."
Okay. Using projectiles is how people use Link. That's why they're there. Link is not a great close-range fighter. He's not agile, he's not that strong, and he sure as hell ain't fast! You use projectiles and long-range grabs to win with him. As for the uB, only n00bs spam it. It's good to use once in a while, like for a KO, but obviously you've never seen a good Link user if all you watch is people spamming the Spin Attack. Go on YouTube, there are some really good Link users on there.

"Just my opinion."
Well, take it elsewhere. I'm sure there's a "Leenk h8rs c0me heer" thread somehwere on this site. Go take your Link-hating somewhere else.

As a parting note, I'll reiterate:
YOU FAIL.
 

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^ THANK YOU! :) [but tLOz is Nintendo's 3rd best selling franchise...Mario and Pokémon outsell it like 4 to 1] Anyways, Link's uB is only good recovery, and occassional use. It's a somewat good attack, but only n00bs spam with it. IF you consider that a threat, you obviously have never seen Falco shuffle, Fox's shine [fastest attack in the game], Marth's grab length, Shiek's chaingrab, Peach's dSmash, Falcon's knee [all three of them! :laugh:], Ganondorf's dAir, Doc's shuffle, Mario's cape, the Ice Climbers wobbling, Samus' grapple beam, bomb, and uB recovery, or Luigi wavedash. [epic ending] Seriously! :laugh:

Next time when posting, be smart, don't bash stupidly, and know wat you are talking about. ;)
 

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^ THANK YOU! :) [but tLOz is Nintendo's 3rd best selling franchise...Mario and Pokémon outsell it like 4 to 1] Anyways, Link's uB is only good recovery, and occassional use. It's a somewat good attack, but only n00bs spam with it. IF you consider that a threat, you obviously have never seen Falco shuffle, Fox's shine [fastest attack in the game], Marth's grab length, Shiek's chaingrab, Peach's dSmash, Falcon's knee [all three of them! :laugh:], Ganondorf's dAir, Doc's shuffle, Mario's cape, the Ice Climbers wobbling, Samus' grapple beam, bomb, and uB recovery, or Luigi wavedash. [epic ending] Seriously! :laugh:

Next time when posting, be smart, don't bash stupidly, and know wat you are talking about. ;)
Thank you!

From what I heard, it's number four, with the DK series bein number three.
Well, TLoZ will always be number...uh...two for me. (I was gonna say number one, but I remembered Melee and Brawl and SSB64.)

Has anyone ever heard of SSB64 being rereleased on GC? My friend claims to have it and he's gonna let me borrow it. In theory...
 

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Thank you!



Well, TLoZ will always be number...uh...two for me. (I was gonna say number one, but I remembered Melee and Brawl and SSB64.)

Has anyone ever heard of SSB64 being rereleased on GC? My friend claims to have it and he's gonna let me borrow it. In theory...
Nope sorry never has been...

And guys whens the new thread coming anyway?
 

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lol, Aniki is intimidating...he's the only person I think I would "always" lose to. Link has the most potential in Melee and Aniki is better with Link than me and because Link is the best, my best is Link. I'd have to Ditto to stand a chance. o_O
*dies by missing the Up-B into Bomb recovery for after succeding twice but just being knocked back out too far for the long-shot*

Brawl for Dec 3
 
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